Chivalry is Dead because Women Killed it!

[poorboyv6]

So today I worked an overtime shift and was paired up with a woman. Nice looking petite young lady, but with a hard personality. Anyway, we were mostly outside today in the heat, and when we went to enter the building, I always got the door for her and held it open. Because it was so hot, we had access to chilled bottled water. I would always get her a bottle when I went to get one, but she didn't reciprocate. When we went to the restaurant for dinner, she took a take out menu, which she reached first because of course I opened the door for her to enter, but she never even thought about picking up two and passing one on to me.

When I wanted something done, I always put "please" at the end, but when she wanted something, it was like she was giving an order, and I'm not only older than her, I have more seniority.

Looking back, I can't recall her saying thank you once to me during the day. Left a bad taste in my mouth.

 

[Elmore]

So today I worked an overtime shift and was paired up with a woman. Nice looking petite young lady, but with a hard personality. Anyway, we were mostly outside today in the heat, and when we went to enter the building, I always got the door for her and held it open. Because it was so hot, we had access to chilled bottled water. I would always get her a bottle when I went to get one, but she didn't reciprocate. When we went to the restaurant for dinner, she took a take out menu, which she reached first because of course I opened the door for her to enter, but she never even thought about picking up two and passing one on to me.

When I wanted something done, I always put "please" at the end, but when she wanted something, it was like she was giving an order, and I'm not only older than her, I have more seniority.

Looking back, I can't recall her saying thank you once to me during the day. Left a bad taste in my mouth.

The fact that she did not show appreciation by saying thanks could "kill chivalry" but being chivalrous has nothing to do with having an expectation that those acts who be reciprocated

 

[islandboy]

Screw it, don't show her anymore chivalry.

 

[Gentle-man]

So today I worked an overtime shift and was paired up with a woman. Nice looking petite young lady, but with a hard personality. Anyway, we were mostly outside today in the heat, and when we went to enter the building, I always got the door for her and held it open. Because it was so hot, we had access to chilled bottled water. I would always get her a bottle when I went to get one, but she didn't reciprocate. When we went to the restaurant for dinner, she took a take out menu, which she reached first because of course I opened the door for her to enter, but she never even thought about picking up two and passing one on to me.

When I wanted something done, I always put "please" at the end, but when she wanted something, it was like she was giving an order, and I'm not only older than her, I have more seniority.

Looking back, I can't recall her saying thank you once to me during the day. Left a bad taste in my mouth.

Chivalry, or the chivalric code, is the traditional code of conduct associated with the medieval institution of knighthood. It was originally conceived of as an aristocratic warrior code — the term derives from the French term for horseman — involving individual training and service to others. Over time its meaning has been refined to emphasize more ideals such as knightly virtues, honour and courtly love, and less the martial aspects of the tradition.

Chivalry is not dead because a lady doesn't say thank you... it only dies if you stop doing the honourable thing... Holding a door, or grabbing a water for any other person is common decency... From a different point of view, this lady has given you the opportunity to increase your chivalrousness... If you continue to show her kindness despite her lack of appreciation, that would show strong moral character on your part... worthy of a knight!

Yes it's disappointing that she seems to not appreciate your kindness, but you should not let that stop you from being kind.

 

[Dgodus]

The fact that she did not show appreciation by saying thanks could "kill chivalry" but being chivalrous has nothing to do with having an expectation that those acts who be reciprocated

There is a distinct difference between acts not being reciprocated or appreciated and....

but when she wanted something, it was like she was giving an order, and I'm not only older than her, I have more seniority.

that's just not the way you treat a co-worker unless you are their supervisor/boss (in which case often times you'll do some little BS seminar in which they tell you "you should ALWAYS say please/thank you to your employees")

Anyways op stated the problem in his second sentence "...but with a hard personality." I dont go out of my way for people like that.

 

[PuntMeister]

That, my perbite friend, is no woman.

I can think of other words, best not repeated in polite company.

Now she owes you a blowjob. That's the way it is supposed to work. Unrequited chivalry should always be ameliorated with caring acts of a sexual promiscuity.

Alternatively you could fake to open the door for her next time, jump in front, slam it in her face, press your lips against the glass, do a biggie silent scream while curling your index finger and your middle finger down with your wrist on your forehead, sticking the fingertips in your two nostrils, and pulling up with a big shit eating grin on your face.

There are other possible remediations, but the two-fingered-nostril-pull-with-tonsil-show works pretty good.

Do let us know how it goes?

-Punt

 

[billa69]

Well I guess Chivalry is missing in this instance but I dont think you should generalize the whole society based on this experience. I still see people being nice in general especially on campus. They do hold doors for me both girls and guys and I am quite young.

 

[emacky]

I had a friend who told me that I would never get a girlfriend because I did not pay for dinner on the first date. This coming from a girl who had just signed up on POF and been on 5 straight first dates at high class restaurants. It is girls like that is ruining guys.

 

[Tugela]

Chivalry, or the chivalric code, is the traditional code of conduct associated with the medieval institution of knighthood. It was originally conceived of as an aristocratic warrior code — the term derives from the French term for horseman — involving individual training and service to others. Over time its meaning has been refined to emphasize more ideals such as knightly virtues, honour and courtly love, and less the martial aspects of the tradition.

Chivalry is not dead because a lady doesn't say thank you... it only dies if you stop doing the honourable thing... Holding a door, or grabbing a water for any other person is common decency... From a different point of view, this lady has given you the opportunity to increase your chivalrousness... If you continue to show her kindness despite her lack of appreciation, that would show strong moral character on your part... worthy of a knight!

Yes it's disappointing that she seems to not appreciate your kindness, but you should not let that stop you from being kind.

Chivalry only applied to people who were born in the appropriate rank. It didn't apply to the peasants or the merchant classes, they got rape, pillage and the sword.

 

[violetblake]

Can you please not associate all 3.5 billion women on earth with this one idiot? lol. It has nothing to do with her being a woman, it's cause she's an asshole. I hold doors and do other such "chivilrous" (aka, decent) things all the time, to everybody, and I see other people (men and women) do it for other people (men and women) all the time.

You shouldn't do nice/polite things for other people cause they're women, do nice and polite things because it's the right thing to do. If someone doesn't reciprocate, then they're the ones who are probably miserable people, so who needs 'em.

 

[luvsdaty]

Sheesh, i wouldn't have bothered holding the door for her after the 1st one.Life's to short to be pissed off with people that don't really matter(she's one of them) I agree with Violet,i hold doors open for everyone, if i don't get a thank you i usually give them a sarcastic "you're welcome" & continue on with my day.

 

[JClay]

As the good John Henry Newman once said, virtue is its own reward... if your co-worker wants to be a bitch, that's her prerogative. If chivalry is dead, it's because you believe it's dead, not because this lady is being a bitch.

 

[the old maxx50]

Showing kindness, and curtacy to others . has less to do with chivalry and more to do with up bring .. I all ways try to open , or hold the door for others ,, man or woman , .. at the car i will definitely want to open the door for my women passenger .. Please and thank you are just part of my vocabulary .. THere are few of the younger generation that think to do those things unless they had examples of it that they chose to follow ..

It is up to us to set the example .. and delight in doing what is in our nature .. It would be nice to have it reciprocated some times but as long as i can do it myself i will get the door and say your "well come "when some one thanks me for my acts of curtacy..

 

[storm rider]

I completely agree. Just this weekend I saw a guy struglling to through a door with his bike and large backpack. Lods of people walking past never gave a second look, even though it would take 10 seconds of their time to help out. I had it to spare.


The time should then be gained back by avoiding people like this girl as much as possible. Still do your thing when you have to be near her, otherwise try you best to steer clear, she sounds like a user with delusions of grandeur.
Its a trap many people fall into as they think its the best way to get ahead. False dichtonomy.
Or maybe she's just a natural cunt! Who has an attitude of entitlement

Fixed that for you.

SR

 

[COLONEL ANGUS]

we had access to chilled bottled water. I would always get her a bottle when I went to get one, but she didn't reciprocate.

May I suggest a magnum of chilled Midol for the lady

 

[Annalise Lane]

He kept being nice to her because he wanted her to notice him, but because she didn't now he's pouting. "Oh screw woman, their all selfish"

 

[grusse]

sounds like she needs a good stiff length

 

[badbadboy]

IMHO its not Chivalry that is Dead but Good Manners from Both Sexes have deteriorated. Poor parenting have brought us a generation of young adults who got ribbons and medals just for showing up. They have never been told as children to be polite in public but have been encouraged to be individuals and not give a shit what anyone else thinks.

Hold a door open for a lady or another man; I would guestimate that less than 50% of women will acknowledge your gesture while men usually almost all respond positively.

To the one's who walk past and do not utter a word, I clearly say directly to them "You are Welcome!". Sometimes I get a snotty look back at me, sometimes they utter something rude and I just smile at them and remind them that good manners have not gone out of fashion.

On a historical note, Men opened doors back in the day so women would walk in before them so that if there was an enemy on the other side, the women would face the attacker before the man.

 

[poorboyv6]

He kept being nice to her because he wanted her to notice him, but because she didn't now he's pouting. "Oh screw woman, their all selfish"

Handing someone a menu and saying please is not asking for much. She's single, but there's no way I would date her.

Read the original post. You missed the part where I said despite being older and senior to her in position, she was trying to boss me around. Imagine what she would be like in a relationship!

 

[Gotee-man]

I say continue to conduct yourself with class, like what u have been doing. If u can, continue to be nice and expect nothing in return. However, if it's really starting to bug u and u feel like you're being used, u don't have to do nice things for her anymore.