Chinese government trying to stop women marrying for money

SexyBoy

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The woman really are going to have the men by the ballz. They might not even have to marry. Just show their pussy once for a man's life savings lol.
 

Miss*Bijou

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You make the sorts of arguments that show how far inside the box your thinking is, despite trying to show that you are on top of the box.

Chinese women might have Chinese men, and possibly the world, "by the balls" so to speak... and this might be seen as some sort of accomplishment even by an extreme feminist. But this is predicated upon the same assumptions that have made women subordinate to men since the beginning of time.

As long as women continue to seek men as their financial security, they will never be independent. If they raise their daughters in a similar fashion, they condemn them to the same fate. The Chinese government was benevolent in their foresight towards women ( by forcing them to become independent ) even as reactionaries such as yourself would cry foul that this was unfair to them. Why, as a self-proclaimed feminist, would you not sneer at women who marry for money instead of earning it themselves - as earning it oneself removes one from dependence on men, and increases one's own value.

The other in-the-box thinking is your assumption that Chinese women have men by the balls because men need to marry these women. More and more men are realizing that marriage is a bad deal, especially if women are willing to prostitute themselves. Thus men's visceral needs can be fulfilled without any long term obligation. Nor do children provide the social security they once did, instead men are coming to realize they are nothing more than investing in nostalgia.

It is women who seem to "need" to have children. It is this "need" that makes them think they must depend on a man to bankroll the family that is in their agenda. That "need" is the core of the subordination of women to men. As well, women hold almost no power in the sexual arena - they don't have men by the balls. As she ages, the demand for her sexually declines. As she becomes a more frequent provider of sex to a man, the more he will want other women - who are all too willing to provide sex in exchange for material goods or a long term obligation (the core of which is based on materiality).

There is a lot of truth in that quote by that Chinese woman who said, "I would rather cry alone in a BMW than laugh with you on a bicycle". What she said is the core of womanhood for as long as women disempower themselves over and over again.

Dude, you do know what satire is, right?


I thought that quote (the BMW quote) was pretty harsh actually and not very pretty at all. I didn't say I approved of that mentality, I just brought up the very real fact that there are going to be some major challenges when the Chinese (and other countries who also have far more men than women) are faced with the results. I don't see where I was "crying foul" (Um, I wasn't!?) or what makes me reactionary (Um, I'm not...especially not if compared to you!lol)


It's pretty ironic that you would accuse me of thinking "in the box" when you've just repeated things we've all heard before and haven't suggested anything new or original. You're also totally missing the point btw: Men "need" to have children as much as women do. Isn't that necessary for one to pass on his genes? You know, all animals' primal goal in life? The visceral need you talk about is more than just sex but also includes procreation.


Just how many women are going to be available to provide all this sex in exchange for material goods, Einstein? That's the point of what I'm saying.....there will be a very limited amount of women available at all to a greatly higher number of men looking for marriage (or/and sex). I've already given my thoughts about it so I won't repeat but feel free to read them when you're ready to discuss this topic...


"women hold almost no power in the sexual arena"
You did not just say that? Oh you did!!! HAHAHA :pound: oh shit you're pretty funny! :pound: hahah let me catch my breath here :pound:....:pound:....ok, i'm ok. i'm good now. So what were you saying? Oh right, I remember :pound: wow good one.


There will always be women (and men ;)) who are materialistic (some men are perfectly fine with this too, you know; Donald Trump and Hugh Hefner come to mind but there is no shortage of examples of men married to women they never would have had a chance with if it wasn't for their fortune - they're not complaining.) but to make some big rant about women, as if that's in any way representative of all women, is a bit extreme.


Something tells me you should get together with Chilli and start group therapy or something cause that kind of bitterness can't be good for your sex life, dude. ;)
 

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What is wrong with your assessment is that you think that Chinese men won't do what Men everywhere do when the women in their own society are "Too Demanding". I foresee a lot of women being imported as wives for Chinese Husbands. A Chinese husband is far superior to a husband that still earns his living by herding goats and whom believes that the heaven will have 74 virgins for him if he follows his religion on earth. North Korea already has a constant stream of women fleeing the country both over the northern boarder and the southern border. Afghanistan and Pakistan already have a stream of women fleeing the country. Then there is Somalia, the Sudan, Iraq, Iran - - really, there are plenty of women looking for husbands that won't beat them and say "it's necessary so that I can show I'm observant".

Totally, like I said I was joking around with my conclusion. I was reading about Chinese immigration in Africa the other days. I was pretty surprised (not sure why, probably because I'd never really considered it or heard of it before) but yes, part of the article was about Chinese men marrying Congolese women. But whatever does end up happening or however people adapt, it is still going to mean major changes.


I somehow doubt Chinese parents and grandparents are exactly thrilled at the idea of their sons marrying outside of Chinese culture. It isn't likely to be a painless process everyone is happy about. I'm not in any way proclaiming I know *how* things will happen, I'm just having some fun with it. I do know things will have to change one way or another or in many ways because the way things are right now simply cannot work when it gets to the point where millions of men are unable to find mates within China.


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Also - forgot to add this before... Marriage/women affect men by lowering levels of testosterone. More single men = More men with high levels of testosterone = More/higher rates of violence. Basically... not a good thing for any society ;)




Researchers have long suspected that levels of the hormone largely responsible for fighting, competing, and mating decrease when men settle down and start a family. Other studies have shown that testosterone begins to decline shortly after marriage, but surges upward when unions end in divorce.

http://news.harvard.edu/gazette/2002/09.19/01-testosterone.html

testosterone levels correlated with risk-taking behavior - students with high baseline testosterone were more likely to take chances in a lottery-style game. The result explained away the commonly observed gender difference in risk-taking, as men have much higher average testosterone levels than females. Published in the middle of the financial crisis, media outlets ran with the implication that the recession might have been avoided if more women had been in charge of our banks and trading firms.

“It’s clear that there are sex differences in aggressiveness and violent behavior - look at who commits all the murders, who fights all the wars,” Maestripieri said. “On average, males are clearly more aggressive, more violent, and take more risks than women, and this affects society and also business. If business is male-dominated, things are going to be done a certain way and if business were female-dominated, things probably would be done differently.”

On average, the study found that women experienced larger surges in cortisol when measured after the stressful test, while men showed a larger test-induced decrease in testosterone. But the more interesting difference went beyond gender to another factor: relationship status. Male subjects who were not married or in a long-term relationship had higher average levels of testosterone, corroborating several previous observations. But they also responded differently to the stress of taking the test, with larger increases in cortisol compared to men in a committed relationship.

“Although marriage can be pretty stressful, it should make it easier for people to handle other stressors in their lives,” Maestripieri said. “What we found is that marriage has a dampening effect on cortisol responses to psychological stress, and that is very new.”

The finding that single males have higher testosterone mirrors hormonal observations previously made in studies of our primate relatives, noted Maestripieri, who conducts most of his research on rhesus macaque monkeys in Puerto Rico. Fluctuations in testosterone are observed in males of many species, with peaks of the hormone occurring when males fight other males and take risks to attract females. Because males have a wider variation in reproductive success - males can impregnate hundreds of females in a lifetime, while females are only able to have a small number of offspring - nature favors the bold.

http://sciencelife.uchospitals.edu/2010/08/09/the-calming-hormonal-effect-of-marriage/




Just some interesting bits for ya.. :p
 

Miss*Bijou

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My ex-wife's parents vowed that they would have nothing to do with our children when we got married. They still came and spoiled their grandchildren.

Sometimes parents have trouble accepting mixed marriage. They come around.

Oh For sure. That doesn't mean it's easy though. lol
 

SexyBoy

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I donno China has something like 1.5 billion. It is going to make a impact no matter what. taking women from another country isn't really going to solve the problem. Are they also only going to have sons? When is it going to stop?

This kind of mass control of nature isn't going to be good.

When people play god bad things happen. Either have a child or don't, but controlling if they are male or female is going to have major issues in the long run.

I think we better claim our women now boys!
 
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