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Chernobyl - 20 years later

gravitas

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Can't believe its been twenty years since the Chernobyl disaster. I came across an interesting site a few years ago but given the anniversary its that more relevant. Some great dialogue and video as well as a cute-ish who rides a motorbike.

http://www.elenafilatova.com/


Not sure if Makhno still frequents PERB but would be interested to read his commentary.
 

Randy Whorewald

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massagelady said:
Sorry Gravitas, but I read on the Internet that this is a fraud. This girl doesn't exist.

Too bad, because I was fascinated by what he/she wrote.
Anita; Do NOT believe evreything you read oon the Internet.
 

stryker

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Randy Whorewald said:
Anita; Do NOT believe evreything you read oon the Internet.

Randy,,not true!!!!! everything on the internet is TRUE!!!!give your head a shake :D and ,,um,,check your spelling before someone says you've been drinking:p

Hey Randy,ya been drinking tonight?(oops,too late):p
 

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stryker said:
Randy,,not true!!!!! everything on the internet is TRUE!!!!give your head a shake :D and ,,um,,check your spelling before someone says you've been drinking:p

Hey Randy,ya been drinking tonight?(oops,too late):p
Byjeezuz stryker, I took you advish of yeshterdey an drank som beeer 24/7!!:p

According to Massagelady everything on the Internet is true but she knows for a fact a lot of Perb Reviews are bullshit. LOL.
 

Gentleman First

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I was working in the Ukraine a couple years ago, and did a tour of the area.
We were only allowed off the bus for maybe a total of 5 to 10 minutes, so mostly slowly drove through on a bus.
But it ws cool to see, and the tour guide spoke fluent English, and told us much about it.

As for the biker chic, she had done her piece on the area, and the tour guide herself said she saw her in the area on her bike , and taking pics etc.
So either the tour guide is a liar, or the biker chic really was there.

I personally believe she was there.:D
 

bonanzabob

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There was a show on the History Channel the other night about this, and what struck me was that Belarus has no nuclear facilities, but the radioactive cloud simply drifted their direction.

I'm sure there will be huge cancer and heart problems coming out of there in the next ten years or so.
 

Makhno

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gravitas, thanks for starting this thread. In a world increasingly insensitized to large scale disasters, its easy to forget that each such disaster is felt primarily at an individual human level. Chernobyl's legacy will be felt not for twenty, a hundred or a thousand years, but for tens of thousands of years The scale of this is hard to grasp.

I came across this very moving photo essay which graphically and effectively brings home the scope of Chernobyl's human tragedy. When you look beyond the political, economic and environmental debates and proclamations, this is what Chernobyl really means: http://www.magnuminmotion.com/essay_chernobyl/
 

Thais

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On the human side of the disaster

Makhno said:
gravitas, thanks for starting this thread. In a world increasingly insensitized to large scale disasters, its easy to forget that each such disaster is felt primarily at an individual human level.
The best book I have read on the human impact of Chernobyl was Svetlana Alexievich’s “Voices of Chernobyl”.
http://www.centerforbookculture.org/interviews/interview_alexievich.html
Though the actual more accurate Russian translation would be “The Prayer of Chernobyl”. Svetlana talked to survivors, relatives, evacuators, government officials and recorded their stories.

This book is not for the faint hearted. It illustrates better than anything else that not only Chernobyl was a disaster – the way the Soviet regime handled it made it 10 times worse than it could have been otherwise. Yet those people who sent an army of 20-year old conscripts to shovel radioactive remains – the conscripts whose bodies fell apart while they were still alive within the next week – never saw trial. One of the aspects I rarely see in any coverage of Chernobyl is that it was more than tragedy - it was a crime. But then, the Soviet state never cared about lives of people when a goal was supposed to be reached, so it was horribly consistent.

Svetlana paints pictures that will forever sear in your mind. A kitten sitting behind the window of abandoned house – so thin you’d think it was a toy – who ate the all the leaves from a potted geranium. An old woman preparing to leave her house, and all she has in her hands is an icon and a cat – yet the evacuators have to force her to leave the cat behind, because the fur of all animals is radioactive. A government official, who cites all the people blaming him for deaths of their relatives while his own daughter is dying from cancer. And unbelievable love of an evacuator’s fiancée, who looked after her husband on a hospital bed while his flesh was prying away from his bones, until he was finally sealed inside a metal coffin to be buried away with the radioactive waste – a woman whose life is also now over because she got an almost lethal dose simply by looking after him, but nobody could stop her from doing it.

I finished it in one sitting and was shaken for the rest of the day. But guess what? Next day rolled over, routine kicked in, and I slowly started to forget.
I guess that is also natural human reaction – there is too much pain in this world, so if we constantly took all of it to heart we’d destroy ourselves.
Nonetheless, we need reminders, if anything, to simply put things in perspective. And realize how amazing and problem-free are most days of our lives.
 
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