Charlies Angelz

[Fast Eddie]

My appologies for the negativity, but I know I'll feel better after posting this and many of you who check this board might want to know. I managed to see 2 wonderful ladies from CA recently, despite a horrendous amount of trouble with the agency. I am finishing up a wonderful 5 day visit to Victoria, and as in the past, I am totally in awe of the amazing women in this town. I envy you locals.

I called CA 2 weeks prior to my trip for a pre-booking. Sent a follow up email. Called the day before flying and then, "Whoops, she's not available. Sorry". Phone girl was nice, but what can you say. Sent another email (hoping to reach someone in management) and got absolutely no response. Oh, well, at this point I'm here! So, I figure, might as well make the best of it...

I booked a different girl, for massage. Oops, massage rates don't count after 6PM (and most rates are $10 more than the web site lists). Forgot to mention that. So sorry. Web site doesn't mention that? Oops. Too bad. Oh, and if any of you plan to try the free cab ride they promote on their web site, just be sure and bring enough money to pay for the cab. Movin' on...

Booked one hour, phone girl called in 45 minutes.

Extended another session and got gouged.

So, all in all, they blow off a lot of "details", (and a lot of this is stuff that inconveniences locals but really messes up visitors-like a girl not being available until the day after I leave), they charge rates almost similar to what they advertise, call sometimes just a little earlier than prompt, and whoever answers the phone never talks to whoever checks the email (apparently nobody). They did one thing really right. They hired some incredible ladies that have already been well reviewed on this board (thanks guys for the reviews and thanks girls for um, everything else ). And the phone girls were always polite and friendly.

I don't think it would take a whole lot to make CA a really great place, but whoever is in charge of the mess ought to straighten it out!

 

[Wyatt]

I have not been to their incall location for fear of having my licence plate written down and photos taken from the neighbours. I have heard this on more than a couple of times and believe it to be true. Too risky for my liking.

 

[Walk Softly]

Ca

I too must join in on this one. When I called there a few weeks ago to book, I was told the lady I wanted to see wasn't available that weekend and the phone lady couldn't really say who would be available that evening. Luckily, I held off trying to book until later and when I called back that evening, the lady I wanted to see was on after all.

As far as the location goes: I only go there after dark and don't park too close. One of the neighbors heckled me as I stood waiting at the door the first time I went there.

On the other hand, there are some really great ladies there (Karmen is a favorite) and their 2 hour rate is a lot better than any of the competitors.

There's plenty of room for improvement at CA but I won't be abandoning them any time soon.

Cheers! WS.

 

[poon4fun]

yep

Hmmm, this is the second time a posting like this concerning CA has come up. Sorry, I'm a lurker of sorts, only posted a few times and I'm just not a fan of writing reviews (especially due to the YMMV factor). Anyways, back to the topic at hand, the first time this topic came up I remember voicing my displeasure with the phone service there, (giggles on the end of the line, very unprofessional). I wonder two things: First, where is that original thread -seems like someone axed it. Second, these problems are scheduling issues, is this why CA no longer bothers posting a regular and consistent schedule? I dunno, either way for my pooning fun I'm sticking with SU.

 

[not2old]

where is that original thread -seems like someone axed it.

I suspect that paid advertisers would have special privileges in this area

 

[CAstaff]

Hello, My name is Willow and I am here to reply to the message that has been posted about our agency.

-First off I check all emails that come through our website twice a day and I reply to all of them. I did not recieve any emails from you for these appoinments. I again looked over all the emails we did recieve in the past month as we keep all of them and nothing from you.

-The lady that you called and set a appointment up with the first time was with Demi and the phone lady that was working said that she would see what she can do about you seeing Demi as she does not normally work on saturdays. When you called back early friday morning you were informed that Demi unfortunately could not make a saturday appointment.

-You then called sunday evening and they set you up with Meng. As far as we knew everything was great.

-The next day you had appoinment with Demi for a 1hr massage. The rate for that was $130 but you seen on our site that it was $120 so thats what we gave it to you as.

-The cab fare discount only applies for a incall appointment and with a reciept. You had a appointment for a outcall so there is a driver fee charged for that.

-I spoke with the phone lady that was working on sunday evening about your appointment with Meng and she informed me that she did not call the lady out 15 min early as we do not do that we may however call the lady out 5 min early so she has time to tidy things up and get ready for the driver to pick her up.

-The prices that you were charged were very reasonable and here they are 1hr outcall is $200, $180 for the booking and $20 for the driver. A 1hr massage outcall was $140, $120 for the booking and $20 for the driver. next 2hr outcall is $330, $310 for the booking and $20 for the driver. And the addition 1 and 1/2 hr call was $270, no driver fee as she was already with you. So if you were charged anything above that, that is something we need to discuss as no more should of been charged to you unless you asked her for extra services.

-I truely believe we did everything right to make your appoinments with our agency as good as we could of. Our phone staff and myself Willow are very good at making sure our clients are happy and well takin care of. Thanks Willow

 

[James]

...and openly admit that they end sessions early in order to make it convenient for their staff.

 

[Fast Eddie]

Opportunity for Improvement

I'd like to thank all of you who have seen this for what it is, nothing more and nothing less, and weighed in by sharing your thoughts and experiences. I wasn't sure what responses to expect and appreciate the generally positive and constructive vibe.

Next, I'd like to thank you, Willow, personally, for responding. While we have different interpretations and opinions, our accounts of what happened aren't that different (and had you received my emails, much of this could have gone better). I can appreciate some annoyance at seeing me broadcast my complaint here. I want you to know that I did so only after phone calls and email were of no avail. Now, I'd like to explain a few things.

First, this issue involves the agency, and not the lovely ladies I saw. I didn't mention their names because I did not want to drag them into this. I was very happy to have spent time with both of them, and I think that was apparent in my original post.

Second, I am not sure if you want to debate with me what I was dissatisfied with and see if one of us can prove the other wrong OR if you would like to take this opportunity to listen to feedback from numerous clients and improve your agency for the long haul. I previously mentioned that you have some incredible ladies on board, and it wouldn't take much to resolve every issue I've brought forth. So, hoping that's the route you'd consider taking, here are some suggestions:

1) Find the email black hole. I sent a grand total of 3 emails to you at the address posted on your web site, ca69girls@hotmail.com. If you received none of them, either I am having trouble sending email (which I feel is rather unlikely) or you are having trouble receiving (I'd suggest looking at your filter or firewall). If you wanted to resolve this it might be easier if you had my actual email so you knew exactly what to look for. I can resend to any address you like, just let me know. If you ignore this issue, it is virtually guaranteed to come up again with someone else.

2) Take your pre-bookings more seriously (and I believe this would put you in the very top bracket of agencies, worldwide). I'm not asking for special treatment of visitors but I am asking you to recognize the obvious; that someone who pre-books 2 weeks ahead of time often cannot change their plans on 2 days notice. If your agency cannot properly handle pre-bookings, then you should stop taking them and stop recommending them.

3) Charge the rates you advertise and advertise the rates you charge. I am not sure if you are even aware that your response to my post indicates these discrepancies. Print the rate page from your website, and then distribute it to the phone girls and the ladies so everyone knows the agreed upon fees. If the rates need to be changed, then change the rates as posted on your web site. Same for massage rates that don't apply after 6 P.M. Just say so. Same goes for cab discounts, specials, etc. You don't have to do any of this, but if you advertise that you will and then don't, something needs to change.

4) Give the phone girls timers, alarm clocks, or watches. One hour should last the same as 60 minutes. (My issue here involved a booking that was pondered for 45 minutes but ultimately scheduled, paid for, and called in at an hour. 45 minutes later the phone rang.)

5) Based on the comments from other clients, I'd suggest you start looking for a new and more client friendly location. While I did opt for outcall, it seems many others have had a variety of challenges with your location, and it might make sense to look for new digs now rather than later. Again, this is not based on my experience but on others', and it's just a thought.

Whatever you decide, I wish you all the best. Viva Victoria!

 

[ShyAndSlow]

I again looked over all the emails we did recieve in the past month as we keep all of them

That's sorta creepy. Why do you keep them, and for how long? If anything legal happens to you guys, will the police have a complete record of all our emails?

 

[pussy lover]

That's sorta creepy. Why do you keep them, and for how long? If anything legal happens to you guys, will the police have a complete record of all our emails?

burnt!!!

I guess they did have a crappy phone gorilla girl last time i was there, but there some hotties there....sooooooooooo

 

[athaire]

Well guys my experiances at CA have always been good, with the exception of one and she was from out of town. But I will say that the location is a serious issue that they need to attend to ASAP........

 

[Crazy Ivan]

But I will say that the location is a serious issue that they need to attend to ASAP........

I wont go there anymore because of this exact issue.

 

[geewhiz]

That's sorta creepy. Why do you keep them, and for how long? If anything legal happens to you guys, will the police have a complete record of all our emails?

I think it is good business practice to keep records. For example, CA hotmail account may have just out they are filtering a lot of e-mails into their junk mail folder instead of their in basket.

Also, ShyAndSlow, in theory, if someone wanted to, they could track your perb account to your e-mail, and from there, your ip address. Furthermore, of the very few cyber-vice cops there are in this country, they scan forums like this one once in a while.

Not to sound paranoid, but if you keep it legal between consenting adults, no problems.

 

[ShyAndSlow]

Also, ShyAndSlow, in theory, if someone wanted to, they could track your perb account to your e-mail, and from there, your ip address. Furthermore, of the very few cyber-vice cops there are in this country, they scan forums like this one once in a while.

Not to sound paranoid, but if you keep it legal between consenting adults, no problems.

I'm not as concerned about what I've said here, but an email to an agency, booking so-and-so for such-and-such a time, would almost certainly be communicating for the purpose of. Certainly moreso than all the nonspecific things I've said here.

Or, turned another way, if they get hacked, will our old emails remain private, or will we see them in the Times-Colonist one morning? Hanging on to old info, after the transaction is complete, just opens up major liabilities for no real benefit.

 

[Walk Softly]

I'm not as concerned about what I've said here, but an email to an agency, booking so-and-so for such-and-such a time, would almost certainly be communicating for the purpose of. Certainly moreso than all the nonspecific things I've said here.

Or, turned another way, if they get hacked, will our old emails remain private, or will we see them in the Times-Colonist one morning? Hanging on to old info, after the transaction is complete, just opens up major liabilities for no real benefit.

"Communicating for the purpose of..." only applies to a public place. Email, like the telephone is legally considered private.

I don't know about you but I use an Email address that doesn't identify me for that sort of thing: unless the snoop has pull with my internet provider, they're sh*t outta luck.

As far as the Police go: they already know exactly what's going on at the agencies as do the politicians who pretend otherwise.

Take some simple precautions and relax! WS.

 

[juicy]

Ciara's View

I personally appreciate the honesty and integrity of Fast Eddie's review. Many of the concerns expressed are easily remedied and will most certainly be addressed as the new management sees fit. As many of you know I exited CA and the industry only a month ago. In my experience it generally takes a business some time to find it's footing when senior management makes such a drastic change. I'm certain that with time, they will be able to provide the level of customer service that their valued clients are accustomed to.

When I was at CA many efforts were made to acquire a new location, with no success. Although everything is exceptional on paper, the fact is, that finding a property manager amenable to a business of this nature is not easy. I'm sure that Charlie has not ceased these efforts and will continue to persevere until a suitable location is found.

As for the 'urban legend' of license plate numbers being taken down and the never ending surveillance by Victoria's finest, it's just that, an urban legend. The fact is, that this rumor was started by a disgruntled and vindictive former employee. I do hope that no one lets those ludicrous tales deprive them of the company of the many lovely Angelz at CA.


Happy Holidayz,

Ciara

 

[tazmanian_devil]

Blah blah blah...

I personally appreciate the honesty and integrity of Fast Eddie's review. Many of the concerns expressed are easily remedied and will most certainly be addressed as the new management sees fit. As many of you know I exited CA and the industry only a month ago. In my experience it generally takes a business some time to find it's footing when senior management makes such a drastic change. I'm certain that with time, they will be able to provide the level of customer service that their valued clients are accustomed to.

When I was at CA many efforts were made to acquire a new location, with no success. Although everything is exceptional on paper, the fact is, that finding a property manager amenable to a business of this nature is not easy. I'm sure that Charlie has not ceased these efforts and will continue to persevere until a suitable location is found.

As for the 'urban legend' of license plate numbers being taken down and the never ending surveillance by Victoria's finest, it's just that, an urban legend. The fact is, that this rumor was started by a disgruntled and vindictive former employee. I do hope that no one lets those ludicrous tales deprive them of the company of the many lovely Angelz at CA.


Happy Holidayz,

Ciara

"Urban legend?" My last time at CA was due to the very fact that a man from a neighbouring house came out, cussed me out and took my license plate number down. In addition to the lackluster customer service through the phone staff (my cell phone number was repeated back to me plus the details of my appointment when I called to complain), this was enough to make me stay far away from this place. Everytime a complaint has been lodged against CA (by many), the token response has been "it's a disgruntled and vindictive former employee". Apparently you have alot of them, and what a pathetic excuse that is for responding to MANY clients who give feedback about your location and services. Even WS, a loyal client, has admitted to being heckled by the neighbours on his first visit. So Ciara, you're no longer in the agency scene/industry, I guess?
"As many of you know I exited CA and the industry only a month ago."
And so you're haunting this board WHY? Get over yourself...the ladies at CA are great. Don't tell us anything we already know. And if you're going to flog the rep of previous employees in order to make CA look good, hope you're getting paid for it. Maybe you're trying to get your job back. Otherwise, can it; an agency that blames it's employees for it's failures is an agency that is on it's last legs. Thanks for bringing this to the attention of PERB.

 

[juicy]

Hello Taz

The initial story was started by a former employee that is known to many of the long time members. That is the tale to which I referred, although I know you are a great fan/friend of that person, most know that the story is baseless and untrue. If I was, in fact, trying to 'flog' the reputation of this person I would publicize their name. It seems their reputation precedes them, since you seem to know very well of whom I speak. I digress, back to the original 'story' as with most 'urban legends' has been repeated so often that it is considered to be true. This is something that many newcomers are unaware of and I would not like for this to negatively impact my friends at CA. This is why I chose to comment, I do not need to get paid to speak the truth.

I have left the business due to my own personal reasons, of which I care not to share publicly. I did not leave due to any issues with CA or the industry and left with no ill feelings towards anyone. Also the last time I checked this was an open board so my participation and input should not be of any issue to you or anyone else who chooses to 'haunt' the board.
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I've never heard about the incident of which you speak and I worked at CA for a year. Must have been before my time. I myself parked there nearly every day for extended periods of time and never had anyone, either resident or law enforcement, approach me. I am,however, aware of the client that was heckled, as he informed us upon his arrival. The 'hecklers' were young men visiting a neighbor, the situation was addressed immediately, resolved amicably and never repeated to my knowledge. This is the only incident of this nature that took place during my time with CA.
I agree that the girls at CA are great and although you and many others already know this, there are always newcomers to the board. So even though I've stated something that you may 'already know', chances are, someone who isn't quite as knowledgeable has now been made aware of this fact. I do believe that this is the purpose of PERB.

Again I wish you all Happy Holidayz,

Ciara

 

[maxx50]

The girls at CA are great

i have been to CA a few times last year never had a problem. They have some pretty sexy girls.. I should know I did a photo shoot of some of them.. I see where Karmen has some of my photos up that show how sexy she is. Dita and Selena also have some nice pics up both very sexy girls.
If you don't like the location . there is always out calls which i prefer.

Ps Ciera Your still the best girl there.

 

[whitemoustache]

Jaime has a point in the "vindictive former employee"

Well said, Jaime! You're NOT a client, and the CA ladies don't deserve this argument over their location by posters who risk damaging the agency's reputation. Such gossip, call it what it is, may be actionable. If CA can document the damage done to their business by such slanders, they may have grounds to sue for recovery of those damages, and that may prove expen$ive.
Yes, I used to serve papers in my working days, and when I hung paper on a guy, it stayed hung. But I digress. A public bulletin board such as this one is NO place for malicious gossip, anymore than it is one for powder-puff reviews placed by perbers living off the avails. You know who you are, nudge, nudge, wink. May we get back to reviews, and quit scaring the newbies?