Changing market

[storm rider]

Asia dominates the market - just think they have 30 millino ppl in one city in China.
$50-70/hr actually gets you pretty good FS from a cute asian girl in her 20` check mine and other`s feedbacks below. I:t`s frustrating adjusting back to Canadian standards after you`ve been there for awhile!!

https://perb.cc/vbulletin/showthread.php?118364-Whos-been-to-Hong-Kong&highlight=

That thread was a good read...I myself have spent a bunch of time looking at the gals pics on the 1-4-1 website...if I ever win the lottery I am taking all the guys from my poker game on either an HK or Thailand pooning vacation....a wingman is good...a whole squadron is better LOL

SR

 

[chuckanut]

a wingman is good...a whole squadron is better.

lol!!!

-chuck

 

[bigfoot88]

My 2 bits. The working life 4 tradesman or u and me is 30 years. The working life 4 a working girl is 10. I won't see a working girl over 30. Take the $100 per hour she is getting and divide by 4. No girl can work 40 hours a week and 52 weeks a year. U get the picture. It is a short ride. It's like a burger or steak. At $100 the towel dirty, the mattress squeak, the carpet stain, the towel smell, the air stale, the cigarette butts all over and the girls from hell. It was a bad dream.

 

[mimi]

Actually, the handymen who came to give quotes to put up my eavestroughs charge $50 per hour as did the chimney sweep who technically charged $50 per 10 minutes as it took less than 20 to clean my chimney...but, these fellows own their own businesses.

So, how much does a fellow in Thailand make installing gutters?

In BC we have the Fair Wages Act for Projects that receive Government Funding. The table of "Fair" wages can be found here: http://www.hrsdc.gc.ca/eng/labour/e...lumbia/island_coast_north_zone/schedule.shtml
Trades People working as a private contractor or for a contractor on a Privately Funded project receive less.

You may be mistaking the "Charge Out Rate" for the wage paid to the tradesperson. The charge out rate includes all the overhead involved in getting a tradesperson to your home. Things like the truck, a person that answers the phone and schedules, etc.

The highest "Fair" wage is for the people that install elevators, they get $36.35 an hour.

 

[Ray]

The 'shop rate' that you bill out is not what you make as income. You can't bill for the time it takes to get to the residence from wherever you are, or the gas that you use. $50/hour is dirt cheap if that's all they're charging.

On that site for 'fair wages', it's just a guideline. The laws of supply and demand means that most of those trades people were making about double those numbers for quite some time before our economy took a nosedive about 2 years ago.

Personally, if I saw a really attractive SP wanting only $50/hour, I'd be under the impression she's supporting a really bad 'habit', and I would avoid like the plague.

 

[Pillowtalk]

I always get confused with currency conversations...how much does a skilled labourer make over there? Here, they make $50 per hour, so, that is $400 per day...that's a week's wages for an unskilled worker, like, someone working at Walmart, or Starbucks.....would that be good money for a woman in Thailand? The equivilent of $400 per night?

Hell, I wouldn't sneeze at $400 per evening....

fwiw, minimum wage (set by govt) in Costa Rica is $2.00/hr. In BC, $8 (or a bit more?).
If an sp in Costa Rica made 50 bucks, it would be the same as one in BC charging 200-220.

And at $2.00 an hour, and 16 per day, you can bet an sp in CR is going to see 50 bucks as a lot of money for a little time. More than that, and that is a weeks wages for an evening with one tourist.

I don't see it as "only" 50 bucks in CR, but the same as 200 in BC, as it is more important to remember what is fair and reasonable in the place you happen to be. (also, remember it costs like 1500 bucks to spend a week in CR lol, so 'only" 50? I don't think so.

 

[jnewton]

fwiw, minimum wage (set by govt) in Costa Rica is $2.00/hr. In BC, $8 (or a bit more?).
If an sp in Costa Rica made 50 bucks, it would be the same as one in BC charging 200-220.

And at $2.00 an hour, and 16 per day, you can bet an sp in CR is going to see 50 bucks as a lot of money for a little time. More than that, and that is a weeks wages for an evening with one tourist.

I don't see it as "only" 50 bucks in CR, but the same as 200 in BC, as it is more important to remember what is fair and reasonable in the place you happen to be. (also, remember it costs like 1500 bucks to spend a week in CR lol, so 'only" 50? I don't think so.

I'm really not sure what the price of anything in Costa Rica really has to do with this. Mimi was talking about $50 per hour in North America (Canada or the USA), not in Costa Rica. The original post in this thread wasn't talking about Costa Rica either, it was referring to an area in the USA, and $50/hr for FS in North America is below dirt cheap.

 

[virginjohn]

The recession (depression?) in the US is causing some very sad changes in the market. Although I no longer participate, I do hear from some of the locals now and then. In the area that I'm in right now, the market for a long time now has been 150/hr for FS and stunningly hot young spinners get about 200/hr for GFE. If you guys could see what was available at that rate, the hotel business here would be booming with vacationing Vancouverites. I just heard from one indy who a while back went to 100/hr to try to increase business and is now offering a 50/hr FS "special".

I can't even imagine how humiliating that must be for a woman to have to discount herself like that.

There is a saying that says: there is no shame in working. Unless you think this is not a decent line of work ...

 

[lenny]

i've said this before, but a friend of mine coming back from many years of working as an ex-pat in southwest Pacific/southeast Asia says that the universal price for a woman for the night is roughly equal to waht a skilled labourer or tradesman makes in a day in the country where she lives

that puts our prices well over the universal average because we pay the same amount for only an hour or so of fun. will prices in canada decline to the universal average? probably not. have prices in the US started to decline to the universal average? according to the OP, yes

personally i could appreciate the company of a woman for extended hours, if not overnight, for what we pay at the higher end right now for an hour or so

just sayin'...

What salary does a "skilled labourer or tradesman" make in SE Asia?

I think it is accurate to say that an English school teacher in Thailand makes around 30,000 Baht/month, which is nearly $1000 CAD. In Bangkok it is common to find Thai SP's in the tourist areas who would joyfully go with him for $30/hr or $50-150 overnight. Outside the capitol, such
as in Pattaya, it gets even less expensive than that.

 

[mimi]

An elementary school teacher in Vancouver makes about 2500-3000 per month. But, don't school teachers make more than labourers?

I know that men are expensive to hire. There is rarely a job that can be done in an hour and men tend to move a little slower than women (in my experience) when working, so, the hours add up.

A hedge I had trimmed when my youngest was newborn, cost me $300 in 1994 and it took the fellow a very long time...all day...to do it...his lunch break seemed to be added into the cost. And he only trimmed halfway up...came from a reputable company too,

I trimmed the same hedge 2 years later all the way up, in 3 hours, and I cut back about 2 feet into the hedge.

If you are a human restricted in your ability to perform basic maintenance on your home and property you are really screwed...

But, I have wandered away from the OP's original post about prices for sexual labour going down. I am trying to think of women I know who would have sex for $50 per hour and come up with no one. It is easier to work at Starbucks or Timmy's (always hiring

How much should a man charge for manual labour?

 

[InTheBum]

I was in Miami a few weeks ago.
the bars were crawling with sp's ,
rates were 75-150 but most were a Ben Franklin

How did they look?

 

[mimi]

By the way...this is a great thread and I think the topic is worth exploring. I am thinking that if a teacher wants to travel to Thailand to bring home half a salary then there must be some perks being there, and, maybe I should go for a 'work' vacation. I want to travel.

Also, if you find lower priced sps that is great! If you are finding it easier to meet your needs go for it! If prices are coming down for sps then the competition in the marketplace for other services is likely to follow. It would be a great time to barter for these services and I have tons of work to be done around the place.

The city I live in currently pays unskilled workers about $15 per hour so I was thinking of offering that much to weed my garden, trim my hedges and paint my house. These are all jobs that require little education or training.

 

[JimDandy]

This may have been posted earlier in this thread but speaking of pooning rates lowering, I see on the Fox web site their one hour GFE rate is now $300 (did it not use to be $320 ?) and they now have a 30 minute rate which is new I believe.