Changing market

[jnewton]

The recession (depression?) in the US is causing some very sad changes in the market. Although I no longer participate, I do hear from some of the locals now and then. In the area that I'm in right now, the market for a long time now has been 150/hr for FS and stunningly hot young spinners get about 200/hr for GFE. If you guys could see what was available at that rate, the hotel business here would be booming with vacationing Vancouverites. I just heard from one indy who a while back went to 100/hr to try to increase business and is now offering a 50/hr FS "special".

I can't even imagine how humiliating that must be for a woman to have to discount herself like that.

 

[vancity_cowboy]

it sure hasn't started here yet. well maybe the asian micros

but there seem to be more ads on craigslist so maybe the competition will bring prices down in the future

 

[threepeat]

I can't even imagine how humiliating that must be for a woman to have to discount herself like that.

When I lost my job I went from making $60K a year as a professional to working for $11/hour at a grocery store for a few months, often times working with high school students as peers. It's hard, but I told myself a dollar is a dollar no matter how I got it. And I told myself I at least I was doing something about my situation, not sitting at home feeling sorry for myself, waiting for the phone to ring. And it makes me appreciate the good times that much more now that I am working again.

If a girl keeps herself mentally strong and stays optimistic, she will get through it and maybe even emerge a better person for having gone through the challenge of these tough times.

 

[jnewton]

I've heard the same story about the US economy repeatedly over the past few years. It's nothing short of a disaster south of the border & has decimated the lives of many people. The "real" unemployment rate hovers around 20% & then there are the lost victims that just disappear from the stats. The US economy reminds me of Detroit. Look at the stats and you'll see a city with a high unemployment rate. Visit Detroit and you'll see a city in absolute decay, burned out buildings, derelict office towers, no city services. Western Canada got off easy...

The women have no other choice but to lower their rates. The humilation is 2 fold for the SP because if the rest of society can't get a job, they certainly have no hope. At 50/hr (especially outcall) you would need 6+ sessions a day to have an "OK" life and pay your driver/security/business costs. A woman can't do that level of clientelle a day without seriously burning out or finding escape in drugs. You can't suck cocks 40 hours a week. You would essentially become a sex slave.

The market always sets the price and I believe in that system. But I'm not so far gone that I realize it doesn't come without a cost. Given the pressures of this industry, FS for 50 bucks is a social disaster waiting to happen. It will further demoralize the women of this trade, leading to more drug & alcohol addiction, which in turn leads to more risk by SP's & overall it will entrench the stereotype of paying for sex. That does no good to the pooner or the SP.

Agree completely with all your points. If I were still active, I think I would feel terrible only giving a woman $50 for an hour of FS. She would end up getting at least that much again or more in a tip. I know some on the board will think I'm silly or stupid but I have too kind a heart to ever do that to a woman. I think that's a low price even for Hatrick and I don't think he is usually buying an hour of FS MSOG.

 

[booblover]

"I would feel terrible only giving a woman $50 for an hour of FS." I am sure almost all of us could get over the initial shock of a tasty hottie only costing a mere $50 for a hour of fun......

 

[threepeat]

Agree completely with all your points. If I were still active, I think I would feel terrible only giving a woman $50 for an hour of FS. She would end up getting at least that much again or more in a tip. I know some on the board will think I'm silly or stupid but I have too kind a heart to ever do that to a woman. I think that's a low price even for Hatrick and I don't think he is usually buying an hour of FS MSOG.

Maybe you could find a girl charging $50 an hour and give her some money.

 

[vancity_cowboy]

i've said this before, but a friend of mine coming back from many years of working as an ex-pat in southwest Pacific/southeast Asia says that the universal price for a woman for the night is roughly equal to waht a skilled labourer or tradesman makes in a day in the country where she lives

that puts our prices well over the universal average because we pay the same amount for only an hour or so of fun. will prices in canada decline to the universal average? probably not. have prices in the US started to decline to the universal average? according to the OP, yes

personally i could appreciate the company of a woman for extended hours, if not overnight, for what we pay at the higher end right now for an hour or so

just sayin'...

 

[snif]

I was in Miami a few weeks ago.
the bars were crawling with sp's ,
rates were 75-150 but most were a Ben Franklin

 

[WHOA]

I'm a big believer in letting the market set prices on pretty much everything, and in that capacity, I'm a big believer in "you get what you pay for." I've always thought, however, that most SPs kind of priced themselves out of the market. I'm a successful guy, not cheap, I have money for my multiple hobbies - but I would just never pay an SP the $250 or more per hour that seems to be commonplace in Vancouver. It just seems to me that any girl who values herself that high must also value herself out of the industry. If I were to go to a $300+/hr SP, I would expect that her attitude would have an eire of "I'm too good for this."

Having said that, in my professional life, I'm damn good at what I do and as such I often charge as much as 6x what my local competition charges. The problem is that I can prove beyond any doubt that my skills are worth it before a client signs on with me - all we can do is take some other perverts opinion at face value on the internet!

ps
I think I kind of got side-tracked: I too think that $50 an hour is too low. For the record, I usually feel most comfortable visiting independent SPs whose rates are between 120 and 180 an hour. Any less and I'm uncomfortable/feel unsafe, any more and I start to feel like I mentioned above - that she feels she's too good to be here, doing this, with me.

 

[Jethro Bodine]

Not seeing anything like what's being reported here in Winnipeg although we faired well (and continue to) during the recession. Our economy is quite stable and while we don't experience the dramatic "booms" some places do we also don't have the "busts". The reputable ladies here are all in the $200 - $240/hr range, which if you look at the local economies, especially housing costs, puts them near the top in the country.

(The thing I have to chuckle about is that ever since Cl became popular it seems that every SW with a cell phone camera and a room, now thinks they are an Indy and can charge $200/hr. I can't imagine the poor slobs who actually pay some of the girls on CL what they are asking.)

 

[InTheBum]

The recession (depression?) in the US is causing some very sad changes in the market. Although I no longer participate, I do hear from some of the locals now and then. In the area that I'm in right now, the market for a long time now has been 150/hr for FS and stunningly hot young spinners get about 200/hr for GFE. If you guys could see what was available at that rate, the hotel business here would be booming with vacationing Vancouverites. I just heard from one indy who a while back went to 100/hr to try to increase business and is now offering a 50/hr FS "special".

I can't even imagine how humiliating that must be for a woman to have to discount herself like that.

Can you tell me what city...I have some vacation time coming up and I want to pound alot of young SP pussy for cheap!

 

[vancity_cowboy]

Can you tell me what city...I have some vacation time coming up and I want to pound alot of young SP pussy for cheap!

hey... then you can caught in an LE sting (because it's illegal in the US), get thrown in the slammer with your new roomate Bubba, and you can post to us about how your prison name is the same as your perb name - 'InTheBum' ...

 

[wilde]

hey... then you can caught in an LE sting (because it's illegal in the US), get thrown in the slammer with your new roomate Bubba, and you can post to us about how your prison name is the same as your perb name - 'InTheBum' ...

... where he will meet his soul mate "UpTheAss".

 

[littlejimbigher]

hey... then you can caught in an LE sting (because it's illegal in the US), get thrown in the slammer with your new roomate Bubba, and you can post to us about how your prison name is the same as your perb name - 'InTheBum' ...

... where he will meet his soul mate "UpTheAss".

Again I get the best laughs reading posts like these.
Keep them coming.

And RE prices. I was just offered by a regular a $100 off for my birthday and I refused because the service she gives me is worth the price I pay.

 

[jnewton]

LOL. You guys are too funny.

The sad thing is, it isn't a LE sting. It's completely legit. That's just how bad the "market" has tanked around here.

 

[storm rider]

I did not see any drastic rate decreases by the local escort agencies....they did rop to $250 an hour some time back but never any lower....then again Calgary is expensive for pay for play....I have seen that a lot of gals like to tour through Calgary as they make better cash than their natural habitats....Vancouver/Montreal and in one case Winnipeg...it does not matter to me as I only go to my fave micro.

I read through the posts on the thread and I do agree that $50 is too low for an hour with a gal....in other countries it is a different story though...in Thailand you can get a gal for the evening for that much...same goes for the 1-4-1's in Hong Kong as well as the thrill of the chase at the shark pit at the old Lisboa hotel in Hong Kong.

I highly doubt the average rate for an hour will ever even reach 2 browns in Calgary aside from the micros.....the micro's seem to be what has changed the market IMO.

SR

 

[Happy Al]

I was in Portland last month, and the strippers at Mary's place were dancing for dollar bills.

 

[jnewton]

Can you tell me what city...I have some vacation time coming up and I want to pound alot of young SP pussy for cheap!

If you had seen pics of the one spinner, you would not be asking about the 50/hr gals. At 200/hr, she is way underpriced.

 

[mimi]

i've said this before, but a friend of mine coming back from many years of working as an ex-pat in southwest Pacific/southeast Asia says that the universal price for a woman for the night is roughly equal to waht a skilled labourer or tradesman makes in a day in the country where she lives

that puts our prices well over the universal average because we pay the same amount for only an hour or so of fun. will prices in canada decline to the universal average? probably not. have prices in the US started to decline to the universal average? according to the OP, yes

personally i could appreciate the company of a woman for extended hours, if not overnight, for what we pay at the higher end right now for an hour or so

just sayin'...

I always get confused with currency conversations...how much does a skilled labourer make over there? Here, they make $50 per hour, so, that is $400 per day...that's a week's wages for an unskilled worker, like, someone working at Walmart, or Starbucks.....would that be good money for a woman in Thailand? The equivilent of $400 per night?

Hell, I wouldn't sneeze at $400 per evening....

 

[rush]

Asia dominates the market - just think they have 30 millino ppl in one city in China.
$50-70/hr actually gets you pretty good FS from a cute asian girl in her 20` check mine and other`s feedbacks below. I:t`s frustrating adjusting back to Canadian standards after you`ve been there for awhile!!

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