Hello Eveyrone. I am a new member here and have been reading all the escort reviews on this site. Apart from some fakes and some bad experiences the majority of the reviews I have read describe an incredible intimate and intense experience especially with SPs from the agencies. I tried this lifestyle about 15-20 years ago and really never had a great experience. Nothing like what is described now like shower together, DFK, passionate sex, cuddling etc. The ones I saw 20 years ago were very in/out eye on the clock not much talking interactions even with higher priced SPs. Have things changed or is it alot of hype?
Change in the industry?
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I have no idea what the industry was like 15-20yrs ago, but the actions/services you are describing are now considered standard practice in GFE = girlfriend experience providers/sessions. I usually include some talking time at the start of most sessions, which helps with developing chemistry and evaluating desires and comforts 🩵
I cant speak for this what this scene was like 20 years ago. But i can tell you my experience now compare to when i started only 2 years ago is vastly different, because it was me that changed. You are essentially only paying for a guarantee lay with these ladies. Your personal encounter will depend on you and the lady in question. If you bring a good energy, shes likely going to return it in kind. If youre a dick, you'll get deadfish and suddenly everything is restricted.
Yes! The YMMV = your mileage may vary concept, which makes so much sense between human individuals 🥰
There's a lot in first impressions, mutual respect, and chemistry that we get a peek of in reviews sometimes. Even when I am enjoying myself, it is difficult to put into words how exactly the joy of time together can translate into so much physical pleasure through the chemistry shared. Whatever it is, happy to be happy!
Mhm mhm. The way i digest reviews, especially from well known members, is that the SW in question is capable of providing these services, actions and illicit those emotions. Passion is very much ymmv.
Just because Rina squirts doesnt mean she doesnt just pee on your face for instance.
15-20 years ago was the hayday in Victoria, Class Choice,secret cravings,Charlie's angels,sweet vips ,a couple more agencies whose names escape me? There was numerous incredible agency and indi girls working. I won't mention names as those ladies have long been out of the industry.
But that's when it was more than just hand over your cash,climb on top and out the door as soon as you came. Dfk was becoming a thing,where as before any type of kissing was a big no no.
Girls were more accepting to daty/ dato dfk,Greek if you had chemistry with them.
There was also the odd dud,but there was way more roses than there was cabbage.
That was the golden age of pooning..
Pee on face? That would be extra 😎
CUM on your face though? Make me 😇
✨ Agreed extras vs YMMV ✨
I was around 20 years ago as well and it was not great. It was barely good. During the 3 years that I was in the hobby, I saw over 100 SPs, here's some of my impressions:
Looks: while there were some beatiful women that I encountered, there were just as many train wrecks, and little information (pics or descriptions) to help you navigate your way through. PERB was a 'must have' in those days though it wasn't always perfect. The SPs I meet now are worlds above what I met 20 years ago in terms of looks, fitness and all-around caring about themselves.
Attitude: lots of it. And not the good kind. There were absolute stand-outs, but many for their shitty attitude. The good ones seemed to get burnt out fast and were gone quickly. I did meet some fantastic SPs but it was often a crapshoot if I just booked someone through an agency. PERB helped a lot to find gems and I posted a lot of reviews myself about them.
Service: everything was typically 50-50. CBJ and CFS. Kissing was almost always verboten. Very, very rare to find an SP that did anything more than dry kiss. BBBJ was almost unheard of but there were SPs who did provide it.
If I have any impression that stands out about the difference between then and now, it is that this profession is much more acceptable among providers and therefore much more professional. Women today seem much more open and accepting of sex and therefore more open and accepting of what they offer.
The number of bad, disappointing, scary and generally forgettable experiences I had in the past was unfortunately higher than it should have been. I encountered women who were drunk, stoned, abusive and generally not happy about what they were doing.
I'm hard put now to find a bad experience at all with the 50+ SPs I've seen in the past 3 years back in this hobby.
Things are WAAAAY better now.
Things seem better as you gain experience because you learn how to navigate the landscape.
There were, and are, always shitty unreliable providers and exquisite courtesans.
Nothing has changed except your perception.
There were, and are, always shitty unreliable providers and exquisite courtesans.
Nothing has changed except your perception.
Been pooning since the early 70's and there have been changes but for me it is entirely on me, and to a large degree how the 'hunt' has changed. One thing I am sure of, is that the bar / lounge scene which was glorious way back when, is no where near that level today. The meeting back then was pretty straight up, face to face whether just play or pay, the deal was cut right there. Then the newspaper and magazine ads, then somewhere along the way the agencies got into it, then craigslist and now today you shop online or get lucky meeting some hot thing in the cucumber section at your local Safeway. The actual action, well that has always been something that was discussed and agreed upon at least over the years for me. The peak as I remember it was up to the early 80's when the aids issue changed a lot of things but as humans, we adjust and as horny humans we work it out in the moment.
20 years ago gfe wasn’t a thing. I think as sex work became easier for girls wanting to make a quick buck on Craigslists, people felt they needed to compete with that, the menu opened up a lot People on Craigslist didn’t start in agencies with other girls around to tell them how to work. Years ago, bbbj was something that got you fired in every single place I ever worked. Ive worked all over Canada and in Vegas. HIV scared a lot of people. Everything was wrapped up. Other working girls kept new girls in line of what to offer. Even pretty woman said no kissing.
I’ve been independent for 17 years now and everything has changed. I have been in the business since I was young. With a 4 year break to do something constructive with my life just to decide, sex work is what I like and what I want to do.
I think as long as everybody knows everybody here are human beings offering pretty intimate services to strangers for money. Respectful interaction goes a long way into booking a date with me.
Today, I’m pretty selective of who I see. Quite a few people a day get told we’re not compatible. I just want easy going, laid back, here to have fun gents and gals in my personal and my work life. I’m low volume so I can enjoy the people in my life.
I would not want to offer gfe if I was working in a busy agency. I’ve worked in places where you didn’t even have time to fix your lipstick and you’re not allowed to turn down clients. No thank you!! I love my life now. Peace and body autonomy is worth its weight in gold 💕
I’d lie about how long I’ve been working but it’s too easy for you to find out that lie haha. I joined this board in 2008 🤪
I’ve been independent for 17 years now and everything has changed. I have been in the business since I was young. With a 4 year break to do something constructive with my life just to decide, sex work is what I like and what I want to do.
I think as long as everybody knows everybody here are human beings offering pretty intimate services to strangers for money. Respectful interaction goes a long way into booking a date with me.
Today, I’m pretty selective of who I see. Quite a few people a day get told we’re not compatible. I just want easy going, laid back, here to have fun gents and gals in my personal and my work life. I’m low volume so I can enjoy the people in my life.
I would not want to offer gfe if I was working in a busy agency. I’ve worked in places where you didn’t even have time to fix your lipstick and you’re not allowed to turn down clients. No thank you!! I love my life now. Peace and body autonomy is worth its weight in gold 💕
I’d lie about how long I’ve been working but it’s too easy for you to find out that lie haha. I joined this board in 2008 🤪
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Not encountering drunk/stoned SPs at agencies is not 'my perception'. I'm not talking about being a little high on weed, I'm talking about SPs who were so out of it that I left a session and wanted to call an ambulance because she was literally passed out cold.
You may find shit like that in your LL adventures, but I have found that the agencies I frequent are much more alert to those kinds of things (SweetVIPS under Ms. Harvey was always more aware).
Services offered have changed as well -- see Harmony's post above.
Nothing is perfect and never will be, but as Harmony notes as well, more young women see this business as a quick way to make some money and have a different attitude towards what they are doing.
This business has improved in many, many ways and too many guys don't realize how good they have it or romanticize the past way too much.
Legal age 18 plus 17 ....You are 35 ! See we can't be fooled that easily 🤫😁😉
Not that there isn’t anything wrong with that and I would pay for it…
I think the industry has flipped. IMO transactional sex was the standard everywhere 20+years ago. Now, as many have said, what’s standard is more intimate and based on connection.
My two cents on this is that this is all because the profession is now dictated by women and not pimps and that it is truly a business which means it’s about customer experience and service
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Thank you everyone for their input. I appreciate it. It seems to me that top SPs like Rina and Harmony who have achieved exceptional status through hard work and intelligence can screen their clients, have lower volumes, have more time with each client, have longer lasting relationships with clients, and provide unforgetably satisfying experiences. I am however not convinced that the average SP working at an agency or independantly charging much lower fees can match this service with each client when there is no screening, higher volumes etc. I guess I should look at the reviews as like Sportscentre, each days' highlights and failures. It makes sense to me that the reviews would be skewed to the excepetionally good and the exceptionally bad experiences because fewer so-so experiences would bother to write a review. I also get that the experience is definitely dependant on both the clients' and the SPs' behaviour, attitude and chemistry. There is also definitely an escapism/fantasy/entertainment nature to these encounters probably on both sides (SP and client). I was recently in the Philipinnes and spent a night with an escort. The experience was really good for both of us. However during the night she informed me that she is actually a lesbian and had only relationships with women but was doing this work because of a recent breakup with her partner and resulting financial needs. So even though I think we both wouldn't regret the night it made me feel sad that were it not for the exchange of money and her financial needs she wouldn't want to be with a man. Even apart from the lesbian aspect I wonder if there is some truth in this with SPs here.
High volume doesn't mean lower quality, but it does require more energy and hopefully they have robust immune systems too! I would never judge the quality of an SP based off of volume nor rate alone unless it's suspiciously low. Definitely do your research so you can make the best choices for yourself.
I would see more clients if my health/body would allow me! 🥹 I hit a wall really quickly when I used to have higher volume, and it resulted in 1-4wks off each time depending on the severity of cold/respiratory illness. Getting pneumonia was my last straw. I was told that I wasn't a fit for this work due to my inability to take on such high volume.
Now, I make more overall than when I had higher volume because the constant time off was impacting my income. I see much fewer clients, have the autonomy to spread out my bookings, and spend more time on beauty maintenance and my own health 🥰 Indie work on my own terms was the right fit for me.
So weird, bbbj and gfe was definitely a big thing in LA, twenty years ago.
