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Personally I would love to see clementine, she looks hot AF! But if I was, I can’t help but think do I need to watch what I say? Will she unload on me like she has so many members? Is she even into our session? Is she thinking about a witty reply to the board right now? Does she truly even enjoy this work?
I’m right here, you don’t have to talk about me in the third person lol.
Please watch what you say if you’re prone to being an asshole, yes; I only enjoy respectful clients. I’ll unload on you if you deserve it, and let you unload in me if you deserve it. I fuckin love my job, treat me right and you’ll see how much.
 

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I have recently come to realize that it is best to NOT let a provider know that you are a Perb member. Or at least not before you have met in person and hopefully made a good impression that might overshadow their negative feeling towards Perb.

Case in point. I approached a lady that is fairly active on Perb about seeing her last summer. I mentioned that I was a Perb member. I mentioned that there was one particular post I made on Perb I was not proud of. She asked me which post it was, but I thought it better to see her first and hopefully make a good impression before telling her which post I was referring to. Btw, I no longer remember which post I was referring to. I tried looking through my older posts but no specific post came to mind. Long story short, she was not available at the time and then I got busy and did not try again to set up a date until very recently.

She quoted me a price for a specific service. I pointed out that her current ad on Leolist indicated a price of $50 less. Her response was:

"Oh, you got grandfathered at $$$ ".

$$$ was what she had quoted me last summer which was a larger amount. I thought she was being funny but then realized she was serious. I basically asked her what was going on and her response was:

"I've taken a disliking to you for negotiating my rates. It's disrespectful and crass. And when I tried asking you about the post you regret to see if you could use good judgment and employ some self-awareness, you wanted to play coy and hold that out as a carrot to see me. Poor form. "

Needles to say, the date did not happen and unless we run into each other in a bar and get roaringly drunk together and all is forgiven, it likely never will happen.

I thought initially that I really had offended the lady by being so crass as to try to negotiate her rate. But then another SP whose tweets I follow posted a link to an article written by a guest columnist, who just happens to be the lady I am referring to in this post. She wrote in part:

'In Western Canada, we have the archaic and wholly unwieldy Pacific Escort Review Board (PERB.cc) run on vBulletin (you know it’s bad when even academia has left the format behind). On any given day, the old guard of “perberts” post degrading and vulgar comments about providers, their bodies and a scale-ten judgment of their services. Hobbyists take nit-picky circle-jerk punches at “girls with boyfriends” and “girls who have cellulite” and “girls who think they have golden pussies.” They routinely marvel at how providers could even dare to ask them for a deposit. They jostle to outdo one another on their conquests and oscillate between “I think I’m going to quit this hobby” and “I can’t wait until the market pulls the prices back down and these girls get a good idea of what they’re actually worth.” '

I now believe it was more a bias against Perb members and less about me pointing out the pricing discrepancy that ended our possible meeting.

So guys, maybe hold off letting a provider know you are a Perb member until you have met in person.

And, I will NOT be disclosing who I am referring to in this post. So please do not pm asking for her name. I will not reply. My point for writing this article is not to slag the lady, whom I still have respect for. And I also ask that if you do somehow figure out who I am referring to in this post, please do not post it.

JD
I think if “JD” had not brought up the “one post”, then the idea of “talking about it in person” (red flag for anyone in a vulnerable position), JD and Elsi prob would have had a great time together...
 

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I’m right here, you don’t have to talk about me in the third person lol.
Please watch what you say if you’re prone to being an asshole, yes; I only enjoy respectful clients. I’ll unload on you if you deserve it, and let you unload in me if you deserve it. I fuckin love my job, treat me right and you’ll see how much.
Well this primitive board has no sort of tagging feature so until then it’ll be in the third person!
I think I’m quite a nice guy, in five years on this board my only perb “friends” on my profile are three other SWs who can vouch for me not being an asshole. (Brianna rayne is infamous here but I always had a good time with her)
 

ddcanz

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I think if “JD” had not brought up the “one post”, then the idea of “talking about it in person” (red flag for anyone in a vulnerable position), JD and Elsi prob would have had a great time together...
When going through Border Customs just STFU and answer the relevant questions without embellishment- no need to be overly verbose, insightful, creative or just plain gabby- unless you WANT that fist up your ass.
Like the shirt says, "Boys are Stupid- Throw Rocks at Them".
 

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Well this primitive board has no sort of tagging feature so until then it’ll be in the third person!
I think I’m quite a nice guy, in five years on this board my only perb “friends” on my profile are three other SWs who can vouch for me not being an asshole. (Brianna rayne is infamous here but I always had a good time with her)
How dare you criticise perb ;)
When are we gonna fuuuuuck
 

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I’ll let it all hang out for you, Lance a lot. Eheheheheh


Have to jump in here. Clementine is amazing. On all fronts. Her articulate intelligence is only part of her charm.

But we all have preferences. If someone prefers more demure women, that’s their choice. Lots of choice out there.

Am also a fan of Ms. Hunter for the same reason. Don’t know Elsi but I’ll bet she’s a blast.

We have a couple of conflated issues in this thread.

1. Regarding telling an SP you’re on Perb, it’s up to you. I usually don’t because I’ve noticed some feel it’s brandishing the “implied threat” of a review ( and some have told me that makes them feel uncomfortable). But if they ask ( because it helps in screening ) then no problem. Allows them to form a view, good or bad. If that derails a booking, that’s probably a blessing in disguise

2. Trying to negotiate with someone , over use of their body, seems wrong to me. It’s not worth the extra $50 to haggle. Not buying a 2nd hand bike here.

3. Love ladies in red letting it all hang out. This is a community. I remember a time when people complained that not enough SP’s engaged. Now when some feisty smart ones do, why attack them. ( but like the men , they should keep it from becoming abusive ).
 

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I think if “JD” had not brought up the “one post”, then the idea of “talking about it in person” (red flag for anyone in a vulnerable position), JD and Elsi prob would have had a great time together...
I’m not sure, maybe but I think the greater divide is in a lack of congruence in terms of what each of them thinks of as respectful treatment. I think JD gave the impression that he was sort of entitled to a rate that was lower than the one currently advertised (when he asked for a grandfathered rate knowing her rate on leolist he certainly wasn’t hoping to be charged more than that) because he had reached out to her without booking her in the past. Then you tack on how he opened with “girl” which might not be considered condescending universally but since he says he’s familiar with her writing online, seems like something he could have understood to be a less than stellar choice. Then he goes on to push a same day booking while her concerns have gone unaddressed maybe leaving the impression that he thinks he can book her anyway, and doesn’t care about concerns she may have about him.

I see how he intended to be polite but I don’t think it counts for much when the person you mean to be polite to is directing you on how that can be achieved and you don’t adjust accordingly. I think it’s fair that when we approach a person for something, that we expect to play by their rules or walk away if their rules don’t suit us. Blaming his association with perb in the whole for their interaction seems somewhat oblivious to the fact that she has had lots of great experiences with other perb members.
 

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I honestly can’t eat anymore popcorn. Just stuffed this thread was great.

Board handles- if you use it to post stuff that you wouldn’t want associated with you well the problem happened long before you reached the board. If you posted something dumb deal with it and move on. If you can’t take a hint go back to hint school.

It’s really not hard to be a decent person. In fact most of us do it every day to all those around us in life and business, why is this business any different? Oh, because the power balance has switched from male to female. Get over it and accept you don’t control the rules and learn the new rules.

*grabs new bag of popcorn*
 

Edward Lei

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Easy peasy - never tell an SP you're a perb member before, during or after meeting. Or your religion, political beliefs, club memberships, etc etc.

No need, no point.
^ THIS.

This thread should have been over with on page 1. There's NO VALUE in revealing you're a member of an escort review board. It's only happened a few times in my pooning career but whenever a SP brings up Perb, I just play dumb and say I've never even heard of it. I'm just shocked it's taken the OP 10+ years to figure that out.
 

ElsiDawson

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^ THIS.

This thread should have been over with on page 1. There's NO VALUE in revealing you're a member of an escort review board. It's only happened a few times in my pooning career but whenever a SP brings up Perb, I just play dumb and say I've never even heard of it. I'm just shocked it's taken the OP 10+ years to figure that out.
What!? You're not proud of being part of such a robust and flourishing community?!
 

Ms Erica Phoenix

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In Your Wildest Dreams!
OMG you people!!! I step away for 12 hours when this thread is 5 posts long, & all HELL breaks loose! Ohhhhh the drama! It was like a slutty scummy episode of Glee with fewer strings...and I love it! I WISH I 'd had popcorn!
 

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After reading the screenshot it doesn't seem the fact a perb handle was mentioned was the reason for the old higher rate instead of the LL ad rate. IMO its the way you Jim introduced yourself and the way you tried to set up the session made her uncomfortable meeting up. In the end its always a lady's right to charge and see a person if she sees fit to. Sarcasm can be funny in booking if you two have meet before, other times it can rub them the wrong way.
 
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After reading the screenshot it doesn't seem the fact a perb handle was mentioned was the reason for the old higher rate instead of the LL ad rate. IMO its the way you Jim introduced yourself and the way you tried to set of the session made her uncomfortable meeting up. In the end its always a lady's right to charge and see a person if she sees fit to. Sarcasm can be funny in booking if you two have meet before, other times it can rub them the wrong way.
This. It’s literally our lives on the line, and someone’s making a stink because he couldn’t get his dick wet with a particular provider. Talk about entitlement! And we all know how that can translate in a booking.
 

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The beautiful Fraser Valley !

JD, I think You missed Miss Hunter's suggestions, in this Thread ?

https://perb.cc/vbulletin/showthread.php?267358-When-your-session-request-is-declined

And possibly chose instead, to be one of these Guys !

https://perb.cc/vbulletin/showthrea...iders-And-proper-etiquette-in-initial-contact

I've said this before, but, unfortunately Elsi is a Doppelganger to a close family Member .
Incestuous fantasies, aren't my personal Cup of Tea .

But, from the Sidelines, IMHO Elsi is Dirty & Sweet !
It's too bad, She's not going to be your Girl .

You may want to partake in a little "Green Crack", and put on this Song, to reflect !
LOL

https://perb.cc/vbulletin/showthread.php?261606-The-Perfectly-Legal-Everything-420-Thread-!/page4

Post # 54




For You good Sir, have been Gonged ! LOL

It's time to Live, Learn, and move on...

Cheers

P.S. Kudos to the Mods, for lots of latitude in this Thread !
An interesting Lesson, in how not to, play your Cards .



 

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I said strong and outspoken. You don't want to hear women speak? Our opinions? Our experience? I'm glad you're never going to book with me.
Wow! Sad to say,(or perhaps,thankfully LOL) this "lady" is off my TDL. is a tad harsh and very telling IMHO.
 

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And, I will NOT be disclosing who I am referring to in this post. So please do not pm asking for her name. I will not reply. My point for writing this article is not to slag the lady, whom I still have respect for. And I also ask that if you do somehow figure out who I am referring to in this post, please do not post it.
Sorry, you do not sound very sincere. There are only a few ladies here that were guest columnists and not many twitter accounts that would have mentioned it. Anybody interested could figure this out. And you included a quote, which would eliminate any doubts.

I offer him the $300h. Why? Because he'd said he'd save up and he didn't seem to learn from his past indiscretions and I'm still not comfortable seeing him after our last exchange.
Elsi, I am disappointed. Is the extra $50 enough for you to see somebody who you wouldn't see otherwise? Did you really count on a chance he accepts a higher rate and you proceed?

If not, why the games? If I'm a boy not worthy of your company, extra sarcasm my way won't make me less confused or show me an example of a respectful communication, as compared to a "thinking we are not a good match" line. I suppose it's fine as a venting out and revenge gesture, if you forfeit the professional / educational angle.

What!? You're not proud of being part of such a robust and flourishing community?!
With a profile caption "Registered Asshole" like Edward's, you'd be cautious of sharing it too.

Regarding telling an SP you’re on Perb, it’s up to you. I usually don’t because I’ve noticed some feel it’s brandishing the “implied threat” of a review ( and some have told me that makes them feel uncomfortable). But if they ask ( because it helps in screening ) then no problem. Allows them to form a view, good or bad. If that derails a booking, that’s probably a blessing in disguise
Same. PERB normally does not come up, and that's fine. I don't put too much value into the "secret shopper" aspect either, no big deal if they want to know.
 

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Wow! Sad to say,(or perhaps,thankfully LOL) this "lady" is off my TDL. is a tad harsh and very telling IMHO.
If that was the comment that did it (“I said strong and outspoken. You don't want to hear women speak? Our opinions? Our experience? I'm glad you're never going to book with me.”), good. I’d eat you alive.
 

ElsiDawson

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Elsi, I am disappointed. Is the extra $50 enough for you to see somebody who you wouldn't see otherwise? Did you really count on a chance he accepts a higher rate and you proceed?

If not, why the games? If I'm a boy not worthy of your company, extra sarcasm my way won't make me less confused or show me an example of a respectful communication, as compared to a "thinking we are not a good match" line. I suppose it's fine as a venting out and revenge gesture, if you forfeit the professional / educational angle.
It's the "have we learned yet" tax. I've made bookings on that and handed them the extra back when they come over and prove themselves to be gentlemen. I still have hundreds of reasons to make a booking, change lives and hearts, and all of the basic don't-be-an-idiot rules apply, but sometimes I need to dodge the guys looking for a discount ("what's your unadvertised hh rate, babe?") for my safety and sanity.
 
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