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JimDandy

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I have recently come to realize that it is best to NOT let a provider know that you are a Perb member. Or at least not before you have met in person and hopefully made a good impression that might overshadow their negative feeling towards Perb.

Case in point. I approached a lady that is fairly active on Perb about seeing her last summer. I mentioned that I was a Perb member. I mentioned that there was one particular post I made on Perb I was not proud of. She asked me which post it was, but I thought it better to see her first and hopefully make a good impression before telling her which post I was referring to. Btw, I no longer remember which post I was referring to. I tried looking through my older posts but no specific post came to mind. Long story short, she was not available at the time and then I got busy and did not try again to set up a date until very recently.

She quoted me a price for a specific service. I pointed out that her current ad on Leolist indicated a price of $50 less. Her response was:

"Oh, you got grandfathered at $$$ ".

$$$ was what she had quoted me last summer which was a larger amount. I thought she was being funny but then realized she was serious. I basically asked her what was going on and her response was:

"I've taken a disliking to you for negotiating my rates. It's disrespectful and crass. And when I tried asking you about the post you regret to see if you could use good judgment and employ some self-awareness, you wanted to play coy and hold that out as a carrot to see me. Poor form. "

Needles to say, the date did not happen and unless we run into each other in a bar and get roaringly drunk together and all is forgiven, it likely never will happen.

I thought initially that I really had offended the lady by being so crass as to try to negotiate her rate. But then another SP whose tweets I follow posted a link to an article written by a guest columnist, who just happens to be the lady I am referring to in this post. She wrote in part:

'In Western Canada, we have the archaic and wholly unwieldy Pacific Escort Review Board (PERB.cc) run on vBulletin (you know it’s bad when even academia has left the format behind). On any given day, the old guard of “perberts” post degrading and vulgar comments about providers, their bodies and a scale-ten judgment of their services. Hobbyists take nit-picky circle-jerk punches at “girls with boyfriends” and “girls who have cellulite” and “girls who think they have golden pussies.” They routinely marvel at how providers could even dare to ask them for a deposit. They jostle to outdo one another on their conquests and oscillate between “I think I’m going to quit this hobby” and “I can’t wait until the market pulls the prices back down and these girls get a good idea of what they’re actually worth.” '

I now believe it was more a bias against Perb members and less about me pointing out the pricing discrepancy that ended our possible meeting.

So guys, maybe hold off letting a provider know you are a Perb member until you have met in person.

And, I will NOT be disclosing who I am referring to in this post. So please do not pm asking for her name. I will not reply. My point for writing this article is not to slag the lady, whom I still have respect for. And I also ask that if you do somehow figure out who I am referring to in this post, please do not post it.

JD
 
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badbadboy

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In the big picture, does it really matter if you pay $300 or $350 ? After all it was someone you wanted to see and the rates you quoted were a year old. Plus you had spent time already doing your research.

We have the option of choice as do the SP. I've seen a few SP whose rates have gone up significantly and grandfathered rates weren't considered. Unfortunately I chose to move on and am sure those SP still have an active group of regulars.

I doubt any SP welcomes haggling about their body and services.

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There are a group of SP on Twitter who really dislike this place and it's 'Hobbyists'. They throw all of us into the same group so in my opinion, it really doesn't matter if you provide your forum name. I do my research here and on Twitter and the likelihood of seeing any of the vocal anti-pooners on Perb is virtually zero.
 

JimDandy

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In the big picture, does it really matter if you pay $300 or $350 ? After all it was someone you wanted to see and the rates you quoted were a year old. Plus you had spent time already doing your research.

We have the option of choice as do the SP. I've seen a few SP whose rates have gone up significantly and grandfathered rates weren't considered. Unfortunately I chose to move on and am sure those SP still have an active group of regulars.

I doubt any SP welcomes haggling about their body and services.
I think you read my post too fast. Her new rate was LOWER than her old rate. Not the other way around. So the term "grandfathering" was a joke on her part, and not what was being asked for here.

JD
 

badbadboy

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I think you read my post too fast. Her new rate was LOWER than her old rate. Not the other way around. So the term "grandfathering" was a joke on her part, and not what was being asked for here.y

JD
You are correct. I did gloss over the last part of your post. Sorry
 

Cock Throppled

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Easy peasy - never tell an SP you're a perb member before, during or after meeting. Or your religion, political beliefs, club memberships, etc etc.

No need, no point.
 

clu

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You know you basically identified her in your very own post where you said you wouldn't, right?
 

golferjohn

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Perb (and the like) essentially 'even the playing field' of which I'm certain many with so-so reviews find either unfair or downright distasteful. I tend to take every post with a grain of salt since this is purely a 'people business' and inherently chock-full of all the variables us humans bring to the table. Reviews can easily devolve into a 'ratings war' and create a negative atmosphere which would make anyone providing the service(s) less 'receptive'...just Human Nature.

I know many believe that the client brings the $'s and the provider brings the...(well you know what they bring) :) and it's strictly a transaction, but I've had the best responses when I ignore the acronyms and focus on the person. If I encounter a curt reply or any hint of entitlement, I just take it as a sign and move-on.
 

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If you aren't proud of the post, why don't you take it down? Honestly it sounds like you weren't being cooperative with this provider and she didn't like it. If, while a provider is screening you, she asks for information and you withhold it, you're not leaving a good impression. When potential clients do this to me, I always immediately feel unsafe and suspicious. I wouldn't see you if you behaved in this way, either, whether it had to do with a PERB post or not.
 

JimDandy

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If you aren't proud of the post, why don't you take it down? Honestly it sounds like you weren't being cooperative with this provider and she didn't like it. If, while a provider is screening you, she asks for information and you withhold it, you're not leaving a good impression. When potential clients do this to me, I always immediately feel unsafe and suspicious. I wouldn't see you if you behaved in this way, either, whether it had to do with a PERB post or not.
My point in making this post was that I should not have let her know I was a member of Perb. If I had not done so, none of the points you make in your reply Clementine would even be relevant. If I contact you to make a date, and I answer all of your questions truthfully, but say I have no idea what Perb is if you ask me if I am a member, based on my past experience, I think you would likely agree to meet me.

JD
 

Hot Shot

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Unlike you i dont have the same respect for ladies that post on Perb with an overt and combative style. The post you quote is not surprising at all in respect to who it reveals. I would NEVER EVER visit one of these outspoken CONTEMPTIOUS ladies that post on here day and night getting into fights with members and other ladies on a regular basis.

My favorite quote from that same lady reveals how she feels about Perb and its members is....

Oh, and Leolist has exclusive rights to advertise on PERB – a cute little bromance that keeps client traffic swirling around the same TOILET BOWL.
 

ExpCharlee

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lol hot shot can't handle the strong women ;) how dare we be outspoken. and you'd know from reading reviews that you are missing out on incredible, genuine experiences. BIG TIME.

Unlike you i dont have the same respect for ladies that post on Perb with an overt and combative style. The post you quote is not surprising at all in respect to who it reveals. I would NEVER EVER visit one of these outspoken CONTEMPTIOUS ladies that post on here day and night getting into fights with members and other ladies on a regular basis.

My favorite quote from that same lady reveals how she feels about Perb and its members is....
 

Hot Shot

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lol hot shot can't handle the strong women ;) how dare we be outspoken. and you'd know from reading reviews that you are missing out on incredible, genuine experiences. BIG TIME.
NO….Not strong...OUTSPOKEN
Big difference and thank you for illustrating that
 

Lo-ki

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This is getting better the TV......:fencing::fencing::fencing::fencing:
 

Hot Shot

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I said strong and outspoken. You don't want to hear women speak? Our opinions? Our experience? You're scum. I'm glad you're never going to book with me.
Your assertion that strong and outspoken is the fundamental issue in the "TOILET BOWL" that Perb is makes me shake my head with every post ladies of this mindset make.
Name calling and insults reveal your true nature so....
Thank you for proving my point.
 

Miss Hunter

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This is an interesting thread, so can we please keep the drama to a minimum so it doesn’t get locked.

I like having something interesting, with a wee bit of entertainment mixed in, to read on my study breaks.
 

Lo-ki

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This is an interesting thread, so can we please keep the drama to a minimum so it doesn’t get locked.

I like having something interesting, with a wee bit of entertainment mixed in, to read on my study breaks.
BREAKS.....what breaks....get back to your studies....:whip::whip::whip:
 
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