Carol on the grapevine

[Carole]

Hi Massagegirl,

A few things:

I pointed out your error, that is all.

I didn't use subterfuge on the chatline. I said that I was looking for a "generous guy for an intimate encounter," that sounds pretty clear to me without offending anyone in the process.

This is not a business for me. I am not a professional. Nor do I wish to be. Anyone who has talked to me knows that privacy and discretion are highly valued by me. To find out from Dante that BK put a detailed review about his meeting with me on a sex website after we had a long talk and discussed privacy and discretion was shocking and distressing. Having him tell me that it was important to him as well and then find out that he violated my privacy like that was a breach of trust and a really lousy thing to do to socomeone who trusted him and treated him well. I don't understand why you don't see that.

How are guys going to learn what is acceptable and what is not if they aren't told when they cross the line? Do you feel that the mature thing to do is to lie to a person's face and then go around and post everything they did on a sex website? That sounds like really pathetic behavior to me. But maybe I am showing my ignorance...again. I feel that you should treat people the way that you want to be treated - with honor, dignity and respect. I also believe that you teach people how to treat you. If you allow people to treat you like dirt without telling them that it isn't acceptable then not only will they continue but their behavior gets worse over time. How will they learn to do better and be better people and members of society if they aren't called on bad behavior? I don't know about you but I don't allow myself to be disrespected like that.

Obviously you don't value privacy and discretion for yourself or your clients or you won't argue with me that it is totally necessary after you both agree that discretion is a must.

Ok, AltJeff wasn't talking specifically about me when he made that "bad review" comment but he was talking to me when he said that permission wasn't needed for someone to do a review and I told him that it is the decent thing to do to ask the girl's permission first. Especially after you have both agreed that discretion and privacy are a must.

 

[jack25]

I agree with Carole on this one

After reading this thread I think I will have to agree with Carole on this one. I think given her part-time status as an SP that the pooners should not have mentioned her on the board at all. If a girl is out there just to make a few extra bucks (and maybe have some fun doing it) and wants to fly under the radar pooners should respect that and not give her any unwanted attention. Just my two cents

 

[mr. reisling]

I totally disagree with you Jack. This board and others like it were for the shared info about sps and people who sell their services. To have somone (like carole) who by the way sounds like a great lady say she doesn't want any reviews strikes me as censorship. Thats not what these boards are about. Its the sharing of info good or bad. The ladies even use it should they have a bad client. I am sorry carole feels that her name shouldn't be used but no contact info was given out so either she should just be glad the reviews are good or get out of the business. Sorry Carole thats the way I and I am sure most others feel. To censor any reviews (unless they are lies or deliberate positive shilling) would destroy the crediblity of this board. Thats my 2 cents.

 

[jack25]

Mr. Reisling

I see what you are saying. This board does have a purpose for both SP's and pooners alike and you make valid points. I am guessing that most of the SP's who are reviewed here are full time girls who's sole income is derived from providing sex services. I felt that in the case of Carole who works outside of the business and Sp's on the side, I don't consider her fair game. I think that perhaps Carole is still "in the closet" so to speak with regard to her part time work and perb just let the light in. Perhaps that is not the boards concern and everybody makes their own choices in life and has to live with them. If I put myself in Carole's shoes I would not like what happened either. I am sure she will get over it and perhaps even benifit from what happened.

 

[sexinthecity]

This is not a business for me. I am not a professional. Nor do I wish to be.

Oh really! The moment you collected money for your sexual services...that is called a business transaction. Don't try to excuse yourself from that. You are what you are, Yes so you have another job, that's sweet. I own a company and I am also an escort and hold on...going to go back to University...and still an escort! Thanks to that and places like these boards (which I found out I was on by accident) I am able to pursue these dreams I would not otherwise have been able to do.

Dante, thank you for the apology but you should have asked me before you posted anything. You are a regular and know how much I value my privacy. Anything that is said or done in my company is under the strictest confidence and that trust should work both ways. If not then you are not only disrespecting me but you are disrespecting yourself because it shows that you have no class and no honor. I know you want to be better than that.

You sound more like his Mother or a wannabe Psychologist. Give him a good "SPANKING" next time you see him. Maybe it will get some of your frustration out.
Trust develops over years...not half hours

How are guys going to learn what is acceptable and what is not if they aren't told when they cross the line? Do you feel that the mature thing to do is to lie to a person's face and then go around and post everything they did on a sex website? That sounds like really pathetic behavior to me. But maybe I am showing my ignorance...again. I feel that you should treat people the way that you want to be treated - with honor, dignity and respect. I also believe that you teach people how to treat you. If you allow people to treat you like dirt without telling them that it isn't acceptable then not only will they continue but their behavior gets worse over time. How will they learn to do better and be better people and members of society if they aren't called on bad behavior? I don't know about you but I don't allow myself to be disrespected like that

YIKES!!It sounds like your discussing a long term relationship! Come on girl...unravel a little (alot). No one knows who you are. The gentlemen you meet here will treat you much better than men you will meet off those chatlines. The ones here have the board to answer to. They are great guys.
My thoughts of the day...

 

[Massagegirl]

Well said Daisy dreams, and sexinthecity, you both spelt it out better than I did, and I agree with you, once you sell sexual services you abide by the same rules as everyone else, amateur or professional.

I feel that you should treat people the way that you want to be treated

I used to think that way, until I found out that it is actually manipulation to "treat others how you want to be treated" and that is why it never works, human beings rebel when they feel manipulated.

Obviously you don't value privacy and discretion for yourself or your clients or you won't argue with me that it is totally necessary after you both agree that discretion is a must.

This is the only problem I have with you personally Carole, you really must stop making assumptions about what I value or don't. Discretion (def: cautious reserve in speech) is synonomous with the sex trade industry. It is always expected and a given that neither parties share personal info. Just since you seem to be confused by it, I will tell you that my clients know they are assured discretion, and I don't have to have long talks with them about it. Neither do any of the other girls here or worldwide for that matter.

Pointing you out to his buddies in public is indiscrete, telling your landlord what you are doing is indiscrete, calling you by your working name in public and/or posting your real name and address is indeed indiscrete! However, posting a review that lists your made up name and a description of your looks, services and attitude is not indiscrete. Therein lies the difference.

Welcome to the real world, you'll get used to it.

 

[O-Shoes]

Carole

You are an escort if you took money in exchange for Sex, face the reality!

We all want privacy, Is Carole your real name? I doubt it... so your good to go!

We at Perb are free to review anyone we want in the Service Provider business. You can not sue for these reviews if you are pretending to be someone else.

 

[Stone]

What really jumps out at me as odd is mentioning her other job. While we can go back and forth over the "right to review" issue, we must all agree that knowing her day job contributes absolutley 0 to the review.
What I believe it does do is reduce the ladies privacy, follow me here.
Giving a discrption of a lady is never going to be enough to reveal a lady to those around her, our discriptions arent that accurate and we all picture different things. However image for a sec that I'm a co-worker of the lady, I read not just a discrption but also that she does X. I might realise I know a girl who looks that AND does that.


anyway thats my thoughts,
Stone

 

[bigdee]

Carole

I spent time with Carole and I think she really wants to remain private. Extremely nice lady....I could not have asked for a more enjoyable time in many respects!!!!!

I will respect her wishes.








BigDEE

 

[Jack Meof]

I spent time with Carole and I think she really wants to remain private. Extremely nice lady....I could not have asked for a more enjoyable time in many respects!!!!!

I will respect her wishes.








BigDEE

I agree, she is a very nice lady. I like conversation and she has no trouble providing it after the fact. Her service is very good and although she has raised her rates because she is now so busy due to this board (fair enough)she still provides far more value than any SP or MP out there. That, and she is not in a hurry. A refreshing change.