Carmen Fox busted?
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This could be nothing more than rumour, but the "busted" theory is no laughing matter. I was led to believe by a reliable source --- too obvious to refer to them as "Deep Throat". D'OH! I just did --- who mentioned in passing that is exactly what happened. The theory shared was that the agency apparently --- I've never been --- had three separate units in the building ---condos, not humans --- on different floors. Supposedly the constant "traffic " was annoying the owners of the building to the point where they put too much pressure on the authorities for them to look the other way.
I heard Carmen's agency is only doing outcall for the moment, but others here who know her first hand should be able to shed light on whether this tale is concocted or credible.
Personally, I'm not an agency kinda guy but I hope she resolves this and gets reestablished because whether you're a supporter or an unhappy customer, the fact is she has created a nice umbrella under which hobbyists can pick and choose from a plethora of pleasurable entrees. Her success means you ought to benefit too, ultimately.
I heard Carmen's agency is only doing outcall for the moment, but others here who know her first hand should be able to shed light on whether this tale is concocted or credible.
Personally, I'm not an agency kinda guy but I hope she resolves this and gets reestablished because whether you're a supporter or an unhappy customer, the fact is she has created a nice umbrella under which hobbyists can pick and choose from a plethora of pleasurable entrees. Her success means you ought to benefit too, ultimately.
At this point everything is just rumour and speculation. Perhaps we should wait until Carmen posts something herself, or something isn printed in a paper. While it is possible, jumping to conclusions (even if they turn out to be correct), tends to illicit panic in those who may have been associated with them.
While VPD becoming involved is a possibility, it is more likely that Strata or building management simply asked them to leave. If neighbours were unhappy with the traffic, that would be a logical first step before alerting the authorities. VPD and any law enforcement are already understaffed and overworked. I'm sure they have a backlog of more serious cases that merit attention.
As for her computer and client lists being taken - I suppose that is a possiblity if she was in fact busted. I don't know what the protocol is in that type of situation, but that does sound logical. I don't think that anybody who has their name or information on her computer needs to worry though. If she is in fact as organized and reputable as everybody seems to think - she won't have any details, phone numbers or addresses or any clients on record. Even if she does, do you really think that VPD is going to want to take the hundreds of man hours it would require to contact everybody on there, and try to glean and verify information as to what went on. (they already know what went on. Prostitution is everywhere. You just need to pick up a paper or look on any one of hundreds of websites). It is a list. Perhaps a list including people who simply made inquiries. I really doubt it will be of consequence to anybody who may appear on there.
Okay, this post ended up being much longer winded than I had intended. I do wish Carmen and all the ladies the best in whatever is going on. However, I do think we should all wait for them to verify anything before jumping to conclusions. And for any clients who are concerned for themselves, just take a step back and look at the big picture. Nobody is really going to care if your name appeared on a list.
While VPD becoming involved is a possibility, it is more likely that Strata or building management simply asked them to leave. If neighbours were unhappy with the traffic, that would be a logical first step before alerting the authorities. VPD and any law enforcement are already understaffed and overworked. I'm sure they have a backlog of more serious cases that merit attention.
As for her computer and client lists being taken - I suppose that is a possiblity if she was in fact busted. I don't know what the protocol is in that type of situation, but that does sound logical. I don't think that anybody who has their name or information on her computer needs to worry though. If she is in fact as organized and reputable as everybody seems to think - she won't have any details, phone numbers or addresses or any clients on record. Even if she does, do you really think that VPD is going to want to take the hundreds of man hours it would require to contact everybody on there, and try to glean and verify information as to what went on. (they already know what went on. Prostitution is everywhere. You just need to pick up a paper or look on any one of hundreds of websites). It is a list. Perhaps a list including people who simply made inquiries. I really doubt it will be of consequence to anybody who may appear on there.
Okay, this post ended up being much longer winded than I had intended. I do wish Carmen and all the ladies the best in whatever is going on. However, I do think we should all wait for them to verify anything before jumping to conclusions. And for any clients who are concerned for themselves, just take a step back and look at the big picture. Nobody is really going to care if your name appeared on a list.
You guys are so funny ! Come on you are scaring some of the newbies out here ?
please be nice
you know the truth is outhere !
Michel
please be nice
you know the truth is outhere !
Michel
Dear Omegaone:::
Paulina was not working today, I did not call you to cancel, because you did not schedule an appointment with her in the first place.
We did not answer our telephone because we were installing additional lines to better service the Hunters! Not because we were busted.
Dear Lady Companion:::
Thanks --- You are correct…..We offer 100% confidentiality to our clients, this means that we DO NOT keep records of our clients personal contact information, nor are we required to do so by law. Upon completion of an appointment date, we safely discard of the clients contact information. All of our computers are here safe and sound.
Dear Mike Hawk:::
I know this is just a joke, (a good idea indeed) but some readers may take this the wrong way. I want to clarify that your comments are not true, but please don’t put these great ideas in my head! Hey, I’m a business woman…I’ll give CTV a call…maybe we can work out a deal !!! p.s. I’m just joking too!
Today’s Comments on another review board:::
”Carman Fox beats her Foxes and spent the night in Jail” …. That’s the greatest!!!! If I beat down a Fox last week, and if I was put in jail, then why is every Fox still working for Carman Fox and Friends? Ask any Fox about this, they would laugh and say “Carman hit someone…I don’t think so…she’s not that type of person”. I believe in treating the Friendly Foxes fairly, with respect, trust, honesty, confidentiality, and provide a safe/clean working environment for them. Furthermore, (I love that smart sounding word) I do absolutely everything I can to ensure that the Foxes are Safe & Happy!!! I do this because I’m a good person (when I’m not beating them down), and because I do care about them, and because I know that if I treat them well, it will set a happy-positive mood, and they will treat our clients well, and their clients will treat someone else good, and it’s all up-hill from there!
Fake Reviews:::
Recently, we have noticed many fake reviews about our Foxes, the dates specified and schedules of the Foxes just don’t match up. The man/woman who wrote these reviews is obviously out to get us. I also believe some other negative reviews were posted by this same individual. It’s very obvious that we are a great Escort Service that believes in honesty, and integrity. Our approach is unique. We treat our Foxes well. They are not required to do anything they are not comfortable with. For this reason & many more, we attract some of the greatest girls, and some of the greatest clients. We get over 15 applications per week & we are very selective. You will notice that many of our positive reviews are from members who have posted numerous reviews, and have a good track record.
I just wanted to clarify a few things. I hope I’ve done so. While it’s unfortunate that someone is trying to slander my name and reputation, I’m not going to loose any sleep over it…I’m exhausted, and I’m off to bed now…when I wake up tomorrow and work yet another 14 hour day, I will feel good knowing that I treat everyone fairly. I will also feel good knowing that my Foxes and clients respect me, just as I respect them. I’ll receive another 5 comments on our comment form, a few nice Emails, and I’ll see a few beautiful Foxes smile and I will know that I've done my best. If it's worth doing, it's worth doing well.
Happy Hunting,
Carman Fox.
Paulina was not working today, I did not call you to cancel, because you did not schedule an appointment with her in the first place.
We did not answer our telephone because we were installing additional lines to better service the Hunters! Not because we were busted.
Dear Lady Companion:::
Thanks --- You are correct…..We offer 100% confidentiality to our clients, this means that we DO NOT keep records of our clients personal contact information, nor are we required to do so by law. Upon completion of an appointment date, we safely discard of the clients contact information. All of our computers are here safe and sound.
Dear Mike Hawk:::
I know this is just a joke, (a good idea indeed) but some readers may take this the wrong way. I want to clarify that your comments are not true, but please don’t put these great ideas in my head! Hey, I’m a business woman…I’ll give CTV a call…maybe we can work out a deal !!! p.s. I’m just joking too!
Today’s Comments on another review board:::
”Carman Fox beats her Foxes and spent the night in Jail” …. That’s the greatest!!!! If I beat down a Fox last week, and if I was put in jail, then why is every Fox still working for Carman Fox and Friends? Ask any Fox about this, they would laugh and say “Carman hit someone…I don’t think so…she’s not that type of person”. I believe in treating the Friendly Foxes fairly, with respect, trust, honesty, confidentiality, and provide a safe/clean working environment for them. Furthermore, (I love that smart sounding word) I do absolutely everything I can to ensure that the Foxes are Safe & Happy!!! I do this because I’m a good person (when I’m not beating them down), and because I do care about them, and because I know that if I treat them well, it will set a happy-positive mood, and they will treat our clients well, and their clients will treat someone else good, and it’s all up-hill from there!
Fake Reviews:::
Recently, we have noticed many fake reviews about our Foxes, the dates specified and schedules of the Foxes just don’t match up. The man/woman who wrote these reviews is obviously out to get us. I also believe some other negative reviews were posted by this same individual. It’s very obvious that we are a great Escort Service that believes in honesty, and integrity. Our approach is unique. We treat our Foxes well. They are not required to do anything they are not comfortable with. For this reason & many more, we attract some of the greatest girls, and some of the greatest clients. We get over 15 applications per week & we are very selective. You will notice that many of our positive reviews are from members who have posted numerous reviews, and have a good track record.
I just wanted to clarify a few things. I hope I’ve done so. While it’s unfortunate that someone is trying to slander my name and reputation, I’m not going to loose any sleep over it…I’m exhausted, and I’m off to bed now…when I wake up tomorrow and work yet another 14 hour day, I will feel good knowing that I treat everyone fairly. I will also feel good knowing that my Foxes and clients respect me, just as I respect them. I’ll receive another 5 comments on our comment form, a few nice Emails, and I’ll see a few beautiful Foxes smile and I will know that I've done my best. If it's worth doing, it's worth doing well.
Happy Hunting,
Carman Fox.
Its been pretty obvious that some haters are out there. Guys with thousands of post and dozens of reviews love there experience then you have those who have 2 post and been booted a few times with nothing but Negative comments. Well I'm not hesitating to seeing the Foxes. I'll be there next Friday and I have a few girls on my wish list.
Dear Carmen:
Since you claim you treat your foxes with "honesty", how bout treating your potential clients with "honesty" and post the real age of your advertised foxes?
This age question seems to be the gist of the whole complaint about your agency. I understand this viewpoint, I certainly wouldn't want to fork over 300 bucks for a 19 year old who is really 23. That would be like buying a Sony and getting a Hitatchi.
Since you claim you treat your foxes with "honesty", how bout treating your potential clients with "honesty" and post the real age of your advertised foxes?
This age question seems to be the gist of the whole complaint about your agency. I understand this viewpoint, I certainly wouldn't want to fork over 300 bucks for a 19 year old who is really 23. That would be like buying a Sony and getting a Hitatchi.
who cares.. static.. 99% of people dont state there real age.. 19 to 23 is no big deal.... in fact its funny u used those numbers.. if it was like Angel saying she is 25 and 31 still no big deal.. but 35 to 48 yeah thats a jump
I DONT trust anyone.
I dont believes indys nor agencies when they say they dont keep client records. They may or may not keep them. Some will, some wont. Some may think theyve deleted them off their computer but its still there.
THe worry isnt that cops would come after you but your name would become part of public record.
Its like the agency that got busted in Winnipeg and they had a book of client records. People lined up to be able to view the book at the court house.
I dont believes indys nor agencies when they say they dont keep client records. They may or may not keep them. Some will, some wont. Some may think theyve deleted them off their computer but its still there.
THe worry isnt that cops would come after you but your name would become part of public record.
Its like the agency that got busted in Winnipeg and they had a book of client records. People lined up to be able to view the book at the court house.
Carmen totally lies about the age of her girls. It says Tawnie is 19 years old. I have seen Tawnie, or Nikki as she goes by on the side, many times and she is actually 28. I will admit that she looks much younger, but I have to think that if Carman lies about that, what other kinds of things does she misrepresent.
Do people realize what business this is. This may not be the kind of hobby where you find people who never lie. That goes for both sides of the equation. I have a feeling if your looking for girls that never lie about there age you shouldn't be participating in this activity. Because its not like the Foxes are the only ones that lie about there age. So if she looks 19 but is actually 23, 25 or whatever whats your beef. If she was 19 and looked 30 would that make you happy. I haven't seen Tawnie but if like some say she looks like she could pass for 19 then I'm fine. I'm not going to be checking any IDs. Her real age aint nothing but a number. Just like her real name probably isn't Tawnie. IMO Carmen and others provide the fantasy and I have a feeling that some posters are confusing this with reality.
Amen. Physical appearance is just like physical preference; it's all relative. Just because one person sees it one way, doesn't mean anyone else is gonna see it the same way. It's like some of the girls I've seen posted here with great physical reviews, and then I go see a pic, or go and have a session, and sometimes I think, "what beer glasses do some of these guys on PERB wear." And let's also stop to think what if we're in an SP's position: it's probably unlikely you'd give your real name, age, nationality, etc either. Let's face it, we're all creeps, but some of us have a few more screws loose than the average, um... joe. This is not an issue that's going to go away either, in the sense that real names and such will never be used by these girls, so you might as well learn to deal with it, or don't bother with this hobby at all.
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