Canadian political thread

[overdone]

I believe he taught Math and French at one of Vancouver's best private schools, has a couple of degrees, and was enrolled in Engineering in Montreal when he decided to enter politics.

The alternative last election was a fellow who hid from the public and the media, flip-flopped on every issue and can't even control the crazies in his caucus.

I'd say we dodged a bullet.

But keep underestimating Trudeau. It's worked so well for you the last three elections.

lol, and that waste of skin got more votes than your Great leader, so did the Pillsbury Dough boy the election before

the only reason Trudeau is still in power is due to Jimmy Singh and the other 24% of dipshits who keep voting for

our first Black PM

and go look at his actual record, working, school, it's hardly impressive, edumacation degree, basically if you have a pulse, the really hard degrees, he quit, cause math is hard, lol

unless you're a Liberal sycophant, that is a cult member

if you really want another version of it, from another useful idiot

go read old Billy's take on his former leader, mostly delusional, but hits some of reality, like a broken clock, he's right on a couple of things

https://nationalpost.com/opinion/jo...-indictment-of-liberal-spending-is-a-bit-rich

like the part where he talks about how much poorer we're becoming and how the commie is trying to take your money and give it everyone, anyone else to bribe them for votes

 

[80watts]

Elect me as the new PM and with a majority government. Prepare to be bent over and fucked really hard, for the betterment of future generations....

 

[westwoody]

Everyone whines about taxes but nobody ever refuses handouts from the govt.
National Post (Fox North) is a perfect example, their parent was happy to receive aid.

 

[80watts]

The thing about handouts is that sooner or later they will want something for it.
For Trudeau, over covid he bought out the younger generation with his handouts.

 

[licks2nite]

Justin Trudeau nothing compared to that pile of dust of a father of his. Learned Pierre Trudeau kept wholesale taxes on Canadian manufacturing. Wasn't enough for the elder Trudeau that predecessors watched Canadian manufacturing companies disappear. Pierre Trudeau kept wholesale taxes on and watched foreign branch plants also disappear serving Canadian consumers. Skilled Canadian labour leaving Canada. Not until wholesale taxes dried up as a federal revenue source for lack of Canadian manufacturing did anybody abolish taxes at wholesale level. Would gladly try St.Laurent, Diefenbaker, Pearson, Pierre Trudeau, and cronies in absentia for treason and sentence to a gallows. GST should have replaced wholesale taxes at end of WWII. Happy Canada Day.

 

[80watts]

Justin Trudeau nothing compared to that pile of dust of a father of his. Learned Pierre Trudeau kept wholesale taxes on Canadian manufacturing. Wasn't enough for the elder Trudeau that predecessors watched Canadian manufacturing companies disappear. Pierre Trudeau kept wholesale taxes on and watched foreign branch plants also disappear serving Canadian consumers. Skilled Canadian labour leaving Canada. Not until wholesale taxes dried up as a federal revenue source for lack of Canadian manufacturing did anybody abolish taxes at wholesale level. Would gladly try St.Laurent, Diefenbaker, Pearson, Pierre Trudeau, and cronies in absentia for treason and sentence to a gallows. GST should have replaced wholesale taxes at end of WWII. Happy Canada Day.

The 13% Manufacturers tax was replaced by GST at all levels of the Man- Distribution- Retail levels, actually generating more revenue than the 13% tax at the Manufacturer's level. The thing is GST was collected at every level and passed on to the next level (because it was a cost). When GST came in, our manufacturing was already being hit by global competitors due to high Cdn wages. There were no trade protections for certain products which would of kept people working. Ontario in the early 90s and the autopac slowly started to close manufacturing for cars and trucks... Mexico took up the slack...

Look at how much food we import from California. The last trade talks with the US (Trump) wanted access to the dairy trade within Canada. The other problem is the transport and selling of products in other provinces. We get free trade with the US, but not between provinces. Canada is mainly a raw resource country; not a manufacturing country. The distances are great and shipping is cheaper by ship. We have rail, but slowly that is drying up. The prairies had elevators for grain in almost every town, but closing the railroads have forced farmers to go 4 to 5 towns over who do have rail line to transport grain...

For Canadians, we use walmart and home depot and Rona, for consummer goods. Grocer stores depend on meat (check those prices out) and supply the healthy stuff (veggies cheaply), but our society is stuck on sugar, and carbohydrates.

Currently there is a supply chain shortage, in the aftermath of covid.

House construction (one of the biggest employers of the cdn economy), is still using wood and shingles for buildings. Metal studs, and metal roofing will last longer than wood and asphalt shingles. Alot of construction materials come from the US, including construction lumber.

At 7 billion people in the world, we as humans are consuming the planet at breakneck speed, leaving pollution behind in its place. In the past, whole areas have been left as toxic dumps due to lax environmental laws. Forests have been cut down and replanted, but we are now cutting down those replanted areas now. I'd invest in hemp toilet paper now, hopefully its not so scratchy on the arse as one ply TP...

Need to mandate more Canadian made items, but its cheaper to get them from the US. These products usually have priority distributors and only distribute through certain companies. Compare prices on Amazon CA. and Amazon US. It usually cost 2X the US price, considering 30% exchange rate. Shipping from the states cost almost the price of the product. The Cdn purchasing power is declining and not just from inflation.

 

[Crookedmember]

The thing about handouts is that sooner or later they will want something for it.
For Trudeau, over covid he bought out the younger generation with his handouts.

Oh, lots of folks took COVID cash, even Stephen Harper and the Alberta UCP.

Today's so-called conservatives like to talk about being fiscally responsible, but in reality they're the worst pigs at the trough.

They fool a lot of people, though.

 

[rlock]

Today's so-called conservatives like to talk about being fiscally responsible, but in reality they're the worst pigs at the trough.

They fool a lot of people, though.

Amen.
The only reason Trudeau was not kicked to the curb in the last two elections is that people know the Cons are even worse - either psychotic fanatics, or sleazy hypocrites, or both at the same time. What few non-idiots are among them don't stand any chance of leading, or even influencing what that party stands for.

They never learn from their mistakes, and they even cheat their own kind. The CPC's current "leadership" race is a goddamn joke. The fix is clearly in, and the likely "winner" (Pollievre) just signifies they are all about doubling down on all the "dogmatic dumbass" ways that got them shit-canned in 2015.

 

[JimDandy]

I'm definitely not Trudeau's biggest fan but no way am I voting for a party headed by someone like Pollievre. The Conservative party is blowing a golden opportunity. The Liberals probably can't believe their good luck. I didn't think that Trudeau would run again because he is clearly less popular than the Liberal party itself. But if Pollievre is his opponent in the next election, he might just run again and possibly even get a majority.

 

[marsvolta]

I'm definitely not Trudeau's biggest fan but no way am I voting for a party headed by someone like Pollievre. The Conservative party is blowing a golden opportunity. The Liberals probably can't believe their good luck. I didn't think that Trudeau would run again because he is clearly less popular than the Liberal party itself. But if Pollievre is his opponent in the next election, he might just run again and possibly even get a majority.

yeah, people should never make decisions with their gut... but they always do. who's going to vote for a guy who reminds everyone of the nerd who everyone took out back at recess to be treated as a punching bag?

 

[masterpoonhunter]

This is what populism looks like. As in what we just saw 'resign' in the UK and of course the fat fuck down south.
Pretty disgusting that the right is represented by these POS's. I mean they all make that lying sack of shit Mulroney look good.
But then, this is politics ...

 

[overdone]

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This is what populism looks like. As in what we just saw 'resign' in the UK and of course the fat fuck down south.
Pretty disgusting that the right is represented by these POS's. I mean they all make that lying sack of shit Mulroney look good.
But then, this is politics ...

too bad the left wing zealots aren't being called out for the exact same shit

or do you agree that "people" who give birth are in danger from Pierre?

and why is our birthrate so low when after-all Dr Evil, uncle Steve forced all those women, er sorry, "birthing people" to carry their spawn to full term for a decade?

Trudeau makes Mulroney look like he could pass a lie detector with 100% grade

it's sad that the media doesn't even mention the zealots on the left trying to impose their just as dangerous ideology

when the average middle and left and right of middle wake up and rebel

we might stand a chance again

 

[80watts]

lol, and that waste of skin got more votes than your Great leader, so did the Pillsbury Dough boy the election before

the only reason Trudeau is still in power is due to Jimmy Singh and the other 24% of dipshits who keep voting for

our first Black PM

and go look at his actual record, working, school, it's hardly impressive, edumacation degree, basically if you have a pulse, the really hard degrees, he quit, cause math is hard, lol

unless you're a Liberal sycophant, that is a cult member

if you really want another version of it, from another useful idiot

go read old Billy's take on his former leader, mostly delusional, but hits some of reality, like a broken clock, he's right on a couple of things

https://nationalpost.com/opinion/jo...-indictment-of-liberal-spending-is-a-bit-rich

like the part where he talks about how much poorer we're becoming and how the commie is trying to take your money and give it everyone, anyone else to bribe them for votes

Canada is a socialist country. The problem is the world economy, Canada can't compete with world wide labour to manufacture (tits), and thus no manufacturing jobs (Ontario bleed on the auto-pac in the 1980s and 90s). High Tech, government jobs are the only decent wages going. Small business 50-50 of surviving. One of the things that kept the economy going was house sells and construction. Construction is slowing down and house prices are dropping and the taxes on land has gone up. Government spending is up to Covid, but also Aboriginal spending and then there will be military spending (first cut for liberals).
I get it you don't like Trudeau, you must be a science student to hate people in the educational faculty. Maybe he is a late bloomer, who knows maybe he has hit his niche, after all its his 3rd term as PM.....

He seems to have weathered it rather well in the political spectrum, and with the conservatives predicted to fall down the next election, it will probably be his 4 th term. Again I will say I'm not a fan of Trudeau, but at least I can say his name properly. But maybe you should walk a mile in his shoes before you criticize. Minority government also seems to give the best for all Canadians, because its a balancing act of cooperating with others and another election which won't go so well. Also voters do remember who made them go to the polls before they are ready to.

The big spending during Covid, was to make sure people could pay the mortgage/rent. It wasn't the rich who would be affected but a large portion of the middle class, who could fall into poverty/lose house and become poorer, so they got propped.

Nowdays people have alot more personal debt than 30 years ago. Increased taxes won't help. There is a balancing act between outright failure of our economy and paying off federal/prov debt and personal debt. Better jobs and more manufacturing are the answears, but after Covid, people got a taste of freedom from the rancid daily grind and are looking for something else.

The thing is people need an 1930s new deal.

Government and Business and people/voter have to get down and do shit (new employment in manufacturing, health system, energy systems and resource management) for the country and make the economy go...get more people back into the middle class, both husband and wife working etc, jobs for high school kids etc. jobs for post secondary students etc. And consistent education for between jobs and upgrades.

Smarter people than me, will figure it out, it just needs the backing of the voters/Canadians (it also will need alot of enthusiasm too) . Back in the 1960, the saying was " The future of the world is Canadas"; unfortunately it has just sizzled alot since the 1960s.... ho-hum

So I will end this rant with

 

[ocelot]

Canada is a socialist country. The problem is the world economy, Canada can't compete with world wide labour to manufacture (tits), and thus no manufacturing jobs (Ontario bleed on the auto-pac in the 1980s and 90s). High Tech, government jobs are the only decent wages going. Small business 50-50 of surviving. One of the things that kept the economy going was house sells and construction. Construction is slowing down and house prices are dropping and the taxes on land has gone up. Government spending is up to Covid, but also Aboriginal spending and then there will be military spending (first cut for liberals).
I get it you don't like Trudeau, you must be a science student to hate people in the educational faculty. Maybe he is a late bloomer, who knows maybe he has hit his niche, after all its his 3rd term as PM.....

He seems to have weathered it rather well in the political spectrum, and with the conservatives predicted to fall down the next election, it will probably be his 4 th term. Again I will say I'm not a fan of Trudeau, but at least I can say his name properly. But maybe you should walk a mile in his shoes before you criticize. Minority government also seems to give the best for all Canadians, because its a balancing act of cooperating with others and another election which won't go so well. Also voters do remember who made them go to the polls before they are ready to.

The big spending during Covid, was to make sure people could pay the mortgage/rent. It wasn't the rich who would be affected but a large portion of the middle class, who could fall into poverty/lose house and become poorer, so they got propped.

Nowdays people have alot more personal debt than 30 years ago. Increased taxes won't help. There is a balancing act between outright failure of our economy and paying off federal/prov debt and personal debt. Better jobs and more manufacturing are the answears, but after Covid, people got a taste of freedom from the rancid daily grind and are looking for something else.

The thing is people need an 1930s new deal.

Government and Business and people/voter have to get down and do shit (new employment in manufacturing, health system, energy systems and resource management) for the country and make the economy go...get more people back into the middle class, both husband and wife working etc, jobs for high school kids etc. jobs for post secondary students etc. And consistent education for between jobs and upgrades.

Smarter people than me, will figure it out, it just needs the backing of the voters/Canadians (it also will need alot of enthusiasm too) . Back in the 1960, the saying was " The future of the world is Canadas"; unfortunately it has just sizzled alot since the 1960s.... ho-hum

So I will end this rant with

Canada currently has a Liberal(centre left)/NDP (socialist) coalition government but is not a socialist country (yet). A myriad of failed government policies have held back the Canadian economy both at the provincial and federal level. This economic malaise will likely continue because most Canadians prefer to accept economic mediocrity rather than a more hard nosed system.

 

[JimDandy]

Canada currently has a Liberal(centre left)/NDP (socialist) coalition government but is not a socialist country (yet). A myriad of failed government policies have held back the Canadian economy both at the provincial and federal level. This economic malaise will likely continue because most Canadians prefer to accept economic mediocrity rather than a more hard nosed system.

And what, pray tell, would a "hard nosed system" look like? In other words, what policy changes would you recommend? And which political party would you say is best suited to bring in these policies?

JD

 

[ocelot]

And what, pray tell, would a "hard nosed system" look like? In other words, what policy changes would you recommend? And which political party would you say is best suited to bring in these policies?

JD

There are too many policy changes to mention on my list but certainly one change would be to not have indiscriminately shovelled as much money out of the truck during Covid. This excess spending was done by the USA and other countries too and now, as a group, we have a very difficult problem to solve with the resultant rapidly rising inflation. I am disillusioned with all of the parties so I can't make a recommendation beyond suggesting a vote for the Rhinoceros Party if a candidate is available.

 

[JimDandy]

There are too many policy changes to mention on my list but certainly one change would be to not have indiscriminately shovelled as much money out of the truck during Covid. This excess spending was done by the USA and other countries too and now, as a group, we have a very difficult problem to solve with the resultant rapidly rising inflation. I am disillusioned with all of the parties so I can't make a recommendation beyond suggesting a vote for the Rhinoceros Party if a candidate is available.

I feel like you have taken the easy way out with your reply. The money shoveled out of the truck is money under the bridge, to mix some metaphors, unless of course you can invent a time machine. I am more interested in FUTURE policy changes that you would recommend. You say too many policy changes to mention. Then mention half a dozen that come to mind. It will give us an idea of what you are looking for in a future government.

JD

 

[westwoody]

Just had a resident conspiracy nut tell me about the rebel q-tards protesting outside the hotel where PM Trudeau stayed in Calgary. And show the video.
They want to arrest him.
Holy shit these people are delusional.
And they were bitching about him flying to Calgary at taxpayer expense. So what, he should take a bus? WTF?
If he goes they bitch about him spending money to go.
If he doesn’t go they cry about him not paying attention.
Idiots manipulated by American funded perpetual rage media.

 

[westwoody]

I feel like you have taken the easy way out with your reply.

It’s easier to criticise than provide workable alternative policies.

 

[ocelot]

I feel like you have taken the easy way out with your reply. The money shoveled out of the truck is money under the bridge, to mix some metaphors, unless of course you can invent a time machine. I am more interested in FUTURE policy changes that you would recommend. You say too many policy changes to mention. Then mention half a dozen that come to mind. It will give us an idea of what you are looking for in a future government.

JD

You are obviously a master of interrogation so let me turn this one around and have you list your 6 policies that you are either happy with or would like changed.