Canadian Hypocrites?

wildonion

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The Lizard King said:
Really? The right resorting to name calling?
It's hardly name calling when you prove it over and over and over...

c'mon, make fun of people different than you some more -- what are your special names for blacks, hispanics, the Special Olympics kids? I know you use them in the locker room, tough guy.

Inquiring minds want to know.
 

The Lizard King

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So Onionboy, aren't you about due to attempt to discredit and falsely tarnish the reputation of a well reviewed SP? It's been a couple of months now...
 

wildonion

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The Lizard King said:
So Onionboy, aren`t you about due to attempt to discredit and falsely tarnish the reputation of a well reviewed SP? It`s been a couple of months now...
I`ll let my reputation stand by the poll...
https://perb.cc/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=31362&highlight=avarice

but don`t let that dissuade you, go see her -- you deserve a psycho.

Wonder what a poll would say about a PERB member who degrades others different from them?

C`mon, tough guy, let us know! What are your special names for special people?

We know how you feel....

https://perb.cc/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=34298&page=4&pp=15
 

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westwoody said:
I have to agree, he lost me with the RCMP in Haiti, and what would he have done in Somalia, it's easy to take cheap shots when it's not your ass on the line.
on this board someone taking a cheap shot, nah tell me it aint so.
 

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wildonion said:
Has everything to do with the fact the right wing, whether on Canadian or US issues, doesn't do anything by denigrate, name call

you wouldnt partake in name calling would you wildonion
 

The Lizard King

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I'll let my reputation stand by the poll...
Your "reputation"? Man, that's gold. How many votes did you cast in your own poll? What a phony, lying piece of shit you are.

Wonder what a poll would say about a PERB member who degrades others different from them?
I think they would vote that you're an asshole!

C'mon, tough guy, let us know! What are your special names for special people?
Part one, actually, I am. Part two, "special". I know, I know, it's not as creative as "differently abled". What the fuck was that?
 

wildonion

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The Lizard King said:
Your "reputation"? Man, that`s gold. How many votes did you cast in your own poll? What a phony, lying piece of shit you are.
Still trying to pass off lies. Didn`t you learn your lesson the first time, tough guy? C`mon, make some other accusations.

I know its reaaalllly hard for you, so I`ll be patient and slow --- this was actually referring to you:

wildonion said:
Wonder what a poll would say about a PERB member who degrades others different from them?

C`mon, tough guy, let us know! What are your special names for special people?

We know how you feel....

https://perb.cc/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=34298&page=4&pp=15

Or maybe you`re busy looking up some KKK web sites you`re "surprised" about and want people to "comment" on?
 

The Lizard King

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Still trying to pass off lies. Didn't you learn your lesson the first time, tough guy? C'mon, make some other accusations.
Like I said...
Blah, blah, blah. Gee, you sure are smart. I guess you have access to only one computer and internet account. Man was I wrong...
and
Your "reputation"? Man, that's gold. How many votes did you cast in your own poll? What a phony, lying piece of shit you are.
And tough guy? Yeah but for other reasons not remotely related to this board. :D
 

wildonion

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dittman said:
you wouldnt partake in name calling would you wildonion
Don't mix with the adults, boy, you be hurt trying to think. Just stick to your mudslinging.
 

wildonion

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The Lizard King said:
Like I said...
boooorrrrriiiinnnggg

Can't you try something new? How bout a factoid?

Or do you just like to start threads attacking people personally -- that's your forte, I guess

c'mon, make fun of people again, pull up some funny pictures, I'm sure you know allllll the best web sites -- show how tough you are!
 

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dumb question
Alberta has a strong government and common sense leadership.....

Unfortunately Ralphie boy made a 5 mil "investment" to a clinton-bush "charitable" Katrina fund. With sky rocketing gas pricing all across the board in north america as a whole, isn't this some sort of twisted bribe to "please mr. bush, don't forget us". Don't get me wrong, the situation in New Orleans is indeed tragic but for anyone outside the twisted state that politics is and forever will be to think this donation is soully intended for the poor individuals unable to escape Katrina's wrath and the city itself is totally naive. And until our governments take a realistic run at the "for the people" instead of a business like sense of getting shit done we will continue our downword spiral into obscurity. Take Cowtown as just an example... i keep reading and hearing on local news channels about road contruction and improvements that have been taken care of or need to be implemented... but if you talk to damn near any long time calgarian that has been here since like the 60's(and any other major city for that matter) and ask them if there have been any legitiment improvents and the answer is a definate no. And thats just something as insignificant as road contruction in comparison to the hurricane disater. Unfortunately I alone am powerless to erase the state of greed both our governments and private citizens that exist because of the creation of mere pieces of inked paper with past preisdential/prime ministers facial images.... I am not affraid to admit that I have had a few cold ones before writing this but that by no means makes it any less true. Hopefully it does make sense though. Just my thoughts..... cheers. :)
 

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FuZzYknUckLeS said:
Substantiate your facts.
Did we poison our Somalia soldiers?
Worthington, Peter
Toronto

Back in October, CTV's W5 aired an intriguing item about mefloquine, the anti-malaria drug our soldiers took in Somalia - and still take in malaria-prone areas - which has side-effects that have caused the drug to be re-examined in other parts of the world.

Many believe mefloquine may have been responsible for some of the bizarre behavior of our troops in Somalia, since the drug was still in experimental stages in 1992 and not legally sold in Canada. W5 discovered that when the now-disbanded Airborne Regiment was sent to Somalia, Health Canada sanctioned the use of mefloquine (under the brand name Lariam, manufactured by Hoffman-La Roche) only on condition it was a controlled study with soldiers monitored and effects recorded.

None of this was done. As we now know, side-effects can lead to severe psycho-neurological problems. Dr. Michelle Brill-Edwards, a Health Canada drug regulator, quit in protest of possible dangerous psychiatric reactions - full-blown psychoses in cases, as well as hallucinations, nausea, nightmares, paranoia and suicidal impulses.

Yet Brig.-Gen. Wendy Clay, former surgeon-general of the Canadian Forces and now director of Health Canada, said: "Mefloquine is used by the Canadian military whenever they are in malaria zones, like Haiti and Cambodia." The government and DND refuse to acknowledge there may be serious problems with mefloquine, and note (correctly) that it is the most effective anti-malaria drug around.

Reform MP John Cummins is a vociferous critic of mefloquine, and speculates it could be responsible for Master Cpl. Clayton Matchee's rampage when he beat a Somali prisoner to death in 1993. I've had soldiers, both serving and discharged, say their behavior was affected for a year or so after they had extended use of mefloquine in Somalia or Rwanda. Some are investigating a class action suit against the government.

Not given a choice, Canadian soldiers were ordered to take mefloquine in Somalia and Rwanda. One soldier, Scott Smith, who went from Somalia to Rwanda and was on mefloquine for most of a year, inexplicably committed suicide on Christmas Day, 1995.

Last spring, Britain's Daily Telegraph reported a leading doctor at the Defence Ministry spent two years researching mefloquine and determined that its "toxicity has been conclusively demonstrated," with unacceptable side-effects. British studies indicate one of every 140 users has serious side-effects.

Getting back to Somalia, in October 1994 Hoffman-La Roche's office in Mississauga formally notified DND it had received no response about shipments of mefloquine sent to the army in Petawawa, Ont., and the medical centre in Debert, N.S., in 1992. The understanding was that the military would be a "co-investigator" in a study that required them to "maintain logs of distribution," complete with consent forms from soldiers.

Health Canada demanded an answer within 24 hours. DND responded that it did not consider troops to be part of a "safety monitoring study," and no mefloquine consent forms were necessary for soldiers.

These documents weren't given to the Somalia inquiry which, according to Cummins, wasn't aware our soldiers were, in effect, guinea pigs for a drug at the time illegal in Canada.

What's disquieting is that there seems no awareness in government circles that mefloquine, while effective against malaria, might indeed be dangerous, with unknown victims among our military.

Unlike the British army, the Canadian military seems to have blind confidence in mefloquine, even though it warns that those with judgment jobs, like neurosurgeons or airline pilots, shouldn't use it. But it's OK for young men with loaded weapons. Does that make sense?


© 1998 The Edmonton Sun. All Rights Reserved.

The book I first read was called "Scapegoat" by Peter Worthington and Kyle Brown. Also "Significant Incident" by David Bercuson.
 

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Geeez and all I asked was whether we should do business with the Chinese. Last time I checked, at least we weren't doing business with the Somali's.

My point was simply that despite Canada's constant tendency towards smugness, we do business with and support as many corrupt regimes as the U.S......oh Carolyn Parish (cow bitch) what would you say now?
 

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luckydog71 said:
Oh, now I understand...how could I be so stupid....

We need to give our troops more drugs and booze....then when the next Abu grab (sp?) happens we can use your lame fucking excuse...

Sorry man....US soldiers were absolutely wrong and I think they will serve jail time for their crimes.

What happened to the Canadian soldier that pulled the trigger that killed the Somalian? I think they gave him 5 demerits.

Of the two main culprits, one was brain-damaged trying to hang himself while awaiting trial and the other was dismissed from the army and sentenced to five years in prison for murder.



And Fuzzy: good summary of the affair that supports the basic claims above is http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Somalia_Affair
 

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I served in the Canadian Military from 1991 to the day before the Somalia story first hit the news in 1993. Except for a training injury, I might still be in today, but because I served with a few members of the Airborne Regiment, I read everything I could get my hands on. The wikipedia article is a good baseline, but googling Canadian Airborne Regiment and Somalia will bring up a lot of interesting links. One thing wikipedia missed was the Chief of Defence Staff Jean Boyle was forced to resign because he was in charge of the Public Affairs office that couldn't find a whole bunch of military paperwork about the death of Arone that they should have had. Knowing the military's fondness for paperwork, the fact that the paperwork was missing is suspicious.

Sorry to hijack the topic, but this is a hot button topic for me.
 

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Ilovethemall said:
I know many of you are quite happy to stick it to the U.S. and one way to do that would be to sell energy etc. to China - I agree it is a pretty good tactic.
I encourage obeisance at the almighty feet of the US of A...

Power & money change everything...

"She said I'm sorry baby I'm leaving you tonight
I found someone new he's waitin' in the car outside
Ah honey how could you do it
We swore each other everlasting love
She said well yeah I know but when
We did - there was one thing we weren't
Really thinking of and that's money

Money changes everything
Money, money changes everything
We think we know what we're doin'
That don't mean a thing
It's all in the past now
Money changes everything

They shake your hand and they smile
And they buy you a drink
They say we'll be your friends
We'll stick with you till the end
Ah but everybody's only
Looking out for themselves
And you say well who can you trust
I'll tell you it's just
Nobody else's money

Money changes everything
Money changes everything
We think we know what we're doin'
We don't pull the strings
It's all in the past now
Money changes everything

Money changes everything
Money changes everything
We think we know what we're doing
We don't know a thing
It's all in the past now

Money changes everything
Money changes everything
Money changes everything

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