If the general population is supposedly infrested with herpes and genital warts, shouldn't the men and women involved in this hobby (just as fun as stamp collecting, but with twice the licking) be rampant with those afflictions? I haven't heard of any mention, but then this site might not want to bring up the down-side of the hobby. Just wondering.
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I think there are a lot more people infected but either they are: too chicken shit to admit it, don't know they have an infection, or really mean-spirited they know they have an infection and will continue to spread it to the mass population via SPs
i get cold sores right at the opening of my nostril sometimes so technically i have herpes but i don't have genital herpes, i've been checked for that. i once feared i had contracted an std so i got tested for everything. turns out i was just panicking and everything came out clean 
. but on the two to three times a year when those nasty little bugger sores flare up i am very careful to not share a glass with anyone or kiss or anything of that nature.
herpes is a very general term and not just isolated to the genital type. there are many different kinds of herpes.
. but on the two to three times a year when those nasty little bugger sores flare up i am very careful to not share a glass with anyone or kiss or anything of that nature.herpes is a very general term and not just isolated to the genital type. there are many different kinds of herpes.
Herpes
The difference is a sore on your face is Herpes Type A and a sore on your genitals is Herpes Type B.
Apparently if you have ever gotten a sore on your lips, you will always test positive for Herpes. You can't test for A or B, Just the virus itself.
I'm not a doctor, nor do I have first hand experience with this, so please correct me if I'm wrong, this was just what I heard.
The difference is a sore on your face is Herpes Type A and a sore on your genitals is Herpes Type B.
Apparently if you have ever gotten a sore on your lips, you will always test positive for Herpes. You can't test for A or B, Just the virus itself.
I'm not a doctor, nor do I have first hand experience with this, so please correct me if I'm wrong, this was just what I heard.
From the National Institute of Health:
September 2003
Genital Herpes
What is genital herpes?
<b>Genital herpes is an infection caused by the herpes simplex virus or HSV. There are two types of HSV, and both can cause genital herpes. </b>HSV type 1 most commonly infects the lips, causing sores known as fever blisters or cold sores, but it also can infect the genital area and produce sores. HSV type 2 is the usual cause of genital herpes, but it also can infect the mouth. A person who has genital herpes infection can easily pass or transmit the virus to an uninfected person during sex.
Both HSV 1 and 2 can produce sores (also called lesions) in and around the vaginal area, on the penis, around the anal opening, and on the buttocks or thighs. Occasionally, sores also appear on other parts of the body where the virus has entered through broken skin.
HSV remains in certain nerve cells of the body for life, and can produce symptoms off and on in some infected people.
According to the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, 45 million people in the United States ages 12 and older, or 1 out of 5 of the total adolescent and adult population, are infected with HSV-2.
Nationwide, since the late 1970s, the number of people with genital herpes infection has increased 30 percent. The largest increase is occurring in young teens. HSV-2 infection is more common in three of the youngest age groups which include people aged 12 to 39 years.
How does someone get genital herpes?
Most people get genital herpes by having sex with someone who is having a herpes "outbreak." This outbreak means that HSV is active. When active, the virus usually causes visible lesions in the genital area. The lesions shed (cast off) viruses that can infect another person. Sometimes, however, a person can have an outbreak and have no visible sores at all. People often get genital herpes by having sexual contact with others who don't know they are infected or who are having outbreaks of herpes without any sores.
A person with genital herpes also can infect a sexual partner during oral sex. The virus is spread only rarely, if at all, by touching objects such as a toilet seat or hot tub.
What are the symptoms?
Unfortunately, most people who have genital herpes don't know it because they never have any symptoms, or they do not recognize any symptoms they might have. When there are symptoms, they can be different in each person. Most often, when a person becomes infected with herpes for the first time, the symptoms will appear within 2 to 10 days. These first episodes of symptoms usually last 2 to 3 weeks.
Early symptoms of a genital herpes outbreak include
Itching or burning feeling in the genital or anal area
Pain in the legs, buttocks, or genital area
Discharge of fluid from the vagina
Feeling of pressure in the abdomen
Within a few days, sores appear near where the virus has entered the body, such as on the mouth, penis, or vagina. They also can occur inside the vagina and on the cervix in women, or in the urinary passage of women and men. Small red bumps appear first, develop into blisters, and then become painful open sores. Over several days, the sores become crusty and then heal without leaving a scar.
Other symptoms that may go with the first episode of genital herpes are fever, headache, muscle aches, painful or difficult urination, vaginal discharge, and swollen glands in the groin area.
Can outbreaks recur?
If you have been infected by HSV 1 and/or 2, you will probably have symptoms or outbreaks from time to time. After the virus has finished being active, it then travels to the nerves at the end of the spine where it stays for a while. Even after the lesions are gone, the virus stays inside the nerve cells in a still and hidden state, which means that it's inactive.
In most people, the virus can become active several times a year. This is called a recurrence. But scientists do not yet know why this happens. When it becomes active again, it travels along the nerves to the skin, where it makes more viruses near the site of the very first infection. That is where new sores usually will appear.
Sometimes, the virus can become active but not cause any sores that can be seen. At these times, small amounts of the virus may be shed at or near places of the first infection, in fluids from the mouth, penis, or vagina, or from barely noticeable sores. You may not notice this shedding because it often does not cause any pain or feel uncomfortable. Even though you might not be aware of the shedding, you still can infect a sex partner during this time.
After the first outbreak, any future outbreaks are usually mild and last only about a week. An infected person may know that an outbreak is about to happen by a tingling feeling or itching in the genital area, or pain in the buttocks or down the leg. For some people, these early symptoms can be the most painful and annoying part of an episode. Sometimes, only the tingling and itching are present and no visible sores develop. At other times, blisters appear that may be very small and barely noticeable, or they may break into open sores that crust over and then disappear.
The frequency and severity of recurrent episodes vary greatly. While some people have only one or two outbreaks in a lifetime, others may have several outbreaks a year. The number and pattern of repeat outbreaks often change over time for a person. Scientists do not know what causes the virus to become active again. Although some people with herpes report that their outbreaks are brought on by another illness, stress, or having a menstrual period, outbreaks often are not predictable. In some cases, outbreaks may be connected to exposure to sunlight.
How is genital herpes diagnosed?
Because the genital herpes sores may not be visible to the naked eye, a doctor or other health care worker may have to do several laboratory tests to try to prove that symptoms are caused by the herpes virus. A person may still have genital herpes, however, even if the laboratory tests do not show the virus in the body.
A blood test cannot show whether a person can infect another with the herpes virus. A blood test, however, can show if a person has been infected at any time with HSV. There are also newer blood tests that can tell whether a person has been infected with HSV 1 and/or 2.
September 2003
Genital Herpes
What is genital herpes?
<b>Genital herpes is an infection caused by the herpes simplex virus or HSV. There are two types of HSV, and both can cause genital herpes. </b>HSV type 1 most commonly infects the lips, causing sores known as fever blisters or cold sores, but it also can infect the genital area and produce sores. HSV type 2 is the usual cause of genital herpes, but it also can infect the mouth. A person who has genital herpes infection can easily pass or transmit the virus to an uninfected person during sex.
Both HSV 1 and 2 can produce sores (also called lesions) in and around the vaginal area, on the penis, around the anal opening, and on the buttocks or thighs. Occasionally, sores also appear on other parts of the body where the virus has entered through broken skin.
HSV remains in certain nerve cells of the body for life, and can produce symptoms off and on in some infected people.
According to the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, 45 million people in the United States ages 12 and older, or 1 out of 5 of the total adolescent and adult population, are infected with HSV-2.
Nationwide, since the late 1970s, the number of people with genital herpes infection has increased 30 percent. The largest increase is occurring in young teens. HSV-2 infection is more common in three of the youngest age groups which include people aged 12 to 39 years.
How does someone get genital herpes?
Most people get genital herpes by having sex with someone who is having a herpes "outbreak." This outbreak means that HSV is active. When active, the virus usually causes visible lesions in the genital area. The lesions shed (cast off) viruses that can infect another person. Sometimes, however, a person can have an outbreak and have no visible sores at all. People often get genital herpes by having sexual contact with others who don't know they are infected or who are having outbreaks of herpes without any sores.
A person with genital herpes also can infect a sexual partner during oral sex. The virus is spread only rarely, if at all, by touching objects such as a toilet seat or hot tub.
What are the symptoms?
Unfortunately, most people who have genital herpes don't know it because they never have any symptoms, or they do not recognize any symptoms they might have. When there are symptoms, they can be different in each person. Most often, when a person becomes infected with herpes for the first time, the symptoms will appear within 2 to 10 days. These first episodes of symptoms usually last 2 to 3 weeks.
Early symptoms of a genital herpes outbreak include
Itching or burning feeling in the genital or anal area
Pain in the legs, buttocks, or genital area
Discharge of fluid from the vagina
Feeling of pressure in the abdomen
Within a few days, sores appear near where the virus has entered the body, such as on the mouth, penis, or vagina. They also can occur inside the vagina and on the cervix in women, or in the urinary passage of women and men. Small red bumps appear first, develop into blisters, and then become painful open sores. Over several days, the sores become crusty and then heal without leaving a scar.
Other symptoms that may go with the first episode of genital herpes are fever, headache, muscle aches, painful or difficult urination, vaginal discharge, and swollen glands in the groin area.
Can outbreaks recur?
If you have been infected by HSV 1 and/or 2, you will probably have symptoms or outbreaks from time to time. After the virus has finished being active, it then travels to the nerves at the end of the spine where it stays for a while. Even after the lesions are gone, the virus stays inside the nerve cells in a still and hidden state, which means that it's inactive.
In most people, the virus can become active several times a year. This is called a recurrence. But scientists do not yet know why this happens. When it becomes active again, it travels along the nerves to the skin, where it makes more viruses near the site of the very first infection. That is where new sores usually will appear.
Sometimes, the virus can become active but not cause any sores that can be seen. At these times, small amounts of the virus may be shed at or near places of the first infection, in fluids from the mouth, penis, or vagina, or from barely noticeable sores. You may not notice this shedding because it often does not cause any pain or feel uncomfortable. Even though you might not be aware of the shedding, you still can infect a sex partner during this time.
After the first outbreak, any future outbreaks are usually mild and last only about a week. An infected person may know that an outbreak is about to happen by a tingling feeling or itching in the genital area, or pain in the buttocks or down the leg. For some people, these early symptoms can be the most painful and annoying part of an episode. Sometimes, only the tingling and itching are present and no visible sores develop. At other times, blisters appear that may be very small and barely noticeable, or they may break into open sores that crust over and then disappear.
The frequency and severity of recurrent episodes vary greatly. While some people have only one or two outbreaks in a lifetime, others may have several outbreaks a year. The number and pattern of repeat outbreaks often change over time for a person. Scientists do not know what causes the virus to become active again. Although some people with herpes report that their outbreaks are brought on by another illness, stress, or having a menstrual period, outbreaks often are not predictable. In some cases, outbreaks may be connected to exposure to sunlight.
How is genital herpes diagnosed?
Because the genital herpes sores may not be visible to the naked eye, a doctor or other health care worker may have to do several laboratory tests to try to prove that symptoms are caused by the herpes virus. A person may still have genital herpes, however, even if the laboratory tests do not show the virus in the body.
A blood test cannot show whether a person can infect another with the herpes virus. A blood test, however, can show if a person has been infected at any time with HSV. There are also newer blood tests that can tell whether a person has been infected with HSV 1 and/or 2.
pretty sure they can test for specific herpes cause when i tested for std's i didn't test positive for herpes type b i guess which is genital??? but i know for a fact that i have herpes cause like i said i get them at the opening of my nostril and every once in a while on my lip. fuck i hate those lip ones.
Who is "we" and are you affiliated with our resident Health Nurse or any other public health provider?TASC said:
Cock Throppled said:
Wouldn't it be fair to say that a far greater percentage of prostitution-related intercourse(s) includes condoms than does that in the general population?
Near to the higher end of this business, the women are also more diligent than their average societal counterparts about getting tested regularly.
Furthermore, how many 13-year-old boys do you see running around having unprotected sex with prostitutes? Now how many 13-year-old boys do you find having unprotected sex with 13-year-old girls?
How many prostitution-related (one-time) couplings are made up of two partners who don't have a clue about the risks?
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How many non-prostitution-related couplings are made up of two partners who don't have a clue about the risks?
Somewhere in similar thoughts lies the answer to your queries?
And yes, once upon a time there was some stupid ass on this very board who stated: "Condoms do not guard against Herpes".
The correct response to such a stupid statement was:
"the hell they don't!!"
I've been seeing sp's regularily for 10 yrs, i'm 39 yrs old. I was just diagnosed with genital warts, which im almost certain i contracted from an sp. At first i didn't notice it as it was small, albeit visible. Later, my doctor misdiagnosed it as a type of mole, so i kept on pooning thinking i was sti free. I finally went to a dermatologist/specialist who diagnosed me correctly, with genital warts, and began treatment. I've always used a condom with sp's and non sp sexual partners, yet i still contracted warts down by the base of my penis where the condom doesn't always protect against. Be careful out there, the virus that causes the warts is certainly around.
The sp's are here to make cash. Some may even prioritize $ over hygene and safety. Just cuz you are covered up doesn't mean you are 100% safe. The term "playing safe" is a relative term.
The sp's are here to make cash. Some may even prioritize $ over hygene and safety. Just cuz you are covered up doesn't mean you are 100% safe. The term "playing safe" is a relative term.
You heard wrongBobbiVan said:
They test and can tell you which type you have.
A friend of mine found out she had herpes about 8 years ago, she was tested and found out it was Type 1 but it was located on her genitals.
The location of the sores has nothing to do with what type they are, Type 1 can be on your face or your genitals, and vice versa for Type 2
She took Valtrex the first 3 breakouts and hasnt had another since then, that was about 7 yrs ago.
shapeshifter said:
While I concur with your underlying point, it simply isn't accurate as written here.
For if what you suggest is true, then randomly 50% of all genital herpes would test as type #1 and 50% of all oral herpes would test as type #2.
Surely you're not foolish enough to buy those statistical approximations, are you?
Outbreaks of Type I herpes virus are most commonly found on the face, most often the lips, but may also infrequently appear elsewhere.
Outbreaks of Type II are most commonly found in the genital area, on the buttocks, on low back close to hipbone, but HSV II is so highly contagious that outbreaks can appear, less frequently, anywhere else on the body. The physical appearance of HSV II outbreaks for the most part do not frequently resemble those of HSV I.
Herpes lies dormant in the body and outbreak occurrences, besides their own mysterious natural timings, have some correlation to stress and diet. Herpes is spread to others by contact with an active infected area.
The two types of herpes are distinct, and type II is the far nastier.
Outbreaks of Type II are most commonly found in the genital area, on the buttocks, on low back close to hipbone, but HSV II is so highly contagious that outbreaks can appear, less frequently, anywhere else on the body. The physical appearance of HSV II outbreaks for the most part do not frequently resemble those of HSV I.
Herpes lies dormant in the body and outbreak occurrences, besides their own mysterious natural timings, have some correlation to stress and diet. Herpes is spread to others by contact with an active infected area.
The two types of herpes are distinct, and type II is the far nastier.
How did you get that from what I said?SeekSteadyRegSP said:
What I said was... if you get a sore on your genitals it doesnt automatically mean that its type 2 .... it could be type 1... and vice versa.
I didnt say anything about the statistical probability that its one or the other.
shapeshifter said:
Dude, just read your own words:
"The location of the sores has nothing to do with what type they are"
That is completely inaccurate... and everyone (else) knows it.
