Busybody building managers and my incall

[SeductiveCameronDEL]

Why is it that some people just delight in making trouble for others when it has nothing to do with them?

As you may have guessed, the busybody married couple of my building that sit in their fishbowl office and keep tabs on people coming and going in the lobby during regular daytime hours, somehow sussed out my situation and contacted my landlady with my website. More than a little irritating to experience, firsthand, the stigmatization, pure ignorance, and preconceived notions regarding myself and the industry. I'm just wondering if anyone has any info regarding the legalities of eviction if there is no real proof (other than the apartment being recognizable in my website photos) that I'm using it as a place of business (which goes against strata rules), not to mention there is absolutely nothing illegal happening? It especially irks me because I know that if it were a personal training or health and wellness coach or even drug dealer, it would have been ignored. I wonder if they would have different attitudes if I was just having a couple of male visitors a day/4xweek because I am a self-proclaimed slut, and money was taken out of the picture? Somehow I doubt it. Which I find even more irritating, because it's so blatantly a clash of morals and personal judgment that is quite frankly, no one's business or place to judge. You can't kick someone out for having a voracious sexual appetite. I view my sexual choices as private. I sure as hell don't want to know what's going on behind their closed doors (which is apparently nothing. Maybe he just needs to brush the cobwebs off her pussy and give her a proper seeing to so that they can stop paying such close attention to my personal choices).

Just to clarify before people start telling me: I understand the reasons people have preconceived notions, and I understand that I put myself at risk of discovery in any indie situation. I am just stubborn as hell, intolerant of prejudice and double standards of any kind, and very self-righteous when I know things are not just.

Thats my condensed rant. Any opinions/discussions/advice......

PS a huge thank you to the really amazing girls in the business who have been so accommodating and supportive. I think I was the envy of a lot of men yesterday when I shared my experience and had quite a few sexy Victoria indies calling to make sure I was ok. Love you ladies and this strange subculture <3

 

[vancity_cowboy]

they didn't just guess it...

somebody said something to them, and it would be in your interest to find out who - because they will follow you around doing the same thing

 

[SeductiveCameronDEL]

Yeah, that's exactly what I thought. There's no way I was ever obvious. I spoke to a lawyer client of mine who said they have zero proof as the photos are Cameron Diablo, and there's nothing to say that it's "me" otherwise, and I should just deny and then mention that I'm seeking legal advice re: emotional distress at the accusation. Obviously it's not worth the trouble of staying. I did had a very odd client on Monday who I think was the culprit. I'm assuming it was his sad way of getting his rocks off in the entire situation with having some kind of power. Really pathetic.

 

[SeductiveCameronDEL]

Yeah, that's exactly what I thought. There's no way I was ever obvious. I spoke to a lawyer client of mine who said they have zero proof as the photos are Cameron Diablo, and there's nothing to say that it's "me" otherwise, and I should just deny and then mention that I'm seeking legal advice re: emotional distress at the accusation. Obviously it's not worth the trouble of staying. I did had a very odd client on Monday who I think was the culprit. I'm assuming it was his sad way of getting his rocks off in the entire situation with having some kind of power. Really pathetic.

And and and! Jeez Louise, Cameron! Take a goddamn breath!

 

[SeductiveCameronDEL]

As much as it will be a hassle Cameron you might as well start looking for a new place.

I would imagine your landlord probably won't give a damn as I bet you're no doubt one of the best, hassle free tenants he/she has had. However, you may win the battle but will lose the war with a couple of property managers like that. You will run the risk they may start hassling your clients at some stage if you end up staying.

Valuable lesson learned, do yourself a favour and move on.

Good luck.:thumb:

Oh without a doubt getting a new incall. It just makes me so angry that people will meddle like that. Also, the hassling of the clients already began. It does tickle me pink to realize that my landlady sent the email yesterday morning, and I didn't read it until after I'd seen two clients that day. Mwahahaha! Doing business right under their noses and there's not much they can do about it. What can I say? I'm a shit disturber :eyebrows:

 

[SeductiveCameronDEL]

What I secretly hope happened is that he is a perb user or pooner, and he got caught looking at my site by his wife. The hypocrisy would be unbelievable!!

 

[susi]

prostitution is not illegal in the privacy of your home between consenting adults. they have no grounds to evict you unless there were lease terms stating specifically that you were not allowed male visitors.

this is why workers in the DTES living in SRO hotels are now allowed to have the customers come up to their rooms. the room is their home and so they have the right to have anyone they choose come and visit and also have the right to engage in a perfectly legal activity, prostitution.

you may want to move if you don't want the hassle. choose a bigger building so it would be hard to determine who was visiting who and scrutininze the landlords a bit before choosing your spot. concrete buildings are preferable too for the sake of noise. also, drapping curtains or cloth on the walls can cut down noise too...

sorry this is happening and if you want some one to advocate to them with you, let me know!

love susie

 

[Pronstar]

Under the Residential Tenancy Act of BC the landlord may evict for cause. I would assume the eviction notice pertains to subsections(c)(d). Those 2 are pretty broad reaching and it would only take a couple of formal complaints. Here is the appropriate section of that act.

Landlord's notice: cause
47 (1) A landlord may end a tenancy by giving notice to end the tenancy if one or more of the following applies:

(a) the tenant does not pay the security deposit or pet damage deposit within 30 days of the date it is required to be paid under the tenancy agreement;
(b) the tenant is repeatedly late paying rent;
(c) there are an unreasonable number of occupants in a rental unit;
(d) the tenant or a person permitted on the residential property by the tenant has
(i) significantly interfered with or unreasonably disturbed another occupant or the landlord of the residential property,
(ii) seriously jeopardized the health or safety or a lawful right or interest of the landlord or another occupant, or
(iii) put the landlord's property at significant risk;
(e) the tenant or a person permitted on the residential property by the tenant has engaged in illegal activity that
(i) has caused or is likely to cause damage to the landlord's property,
(ii) has adversely affected or is likely to adversely affect the quiet enjoyment, security, safety or physical well-being of another occupant of the residential property, or
(iii) has jeopardized or is likely to jeopardize a lawful right or interest of another occupant or the landlord;
(f) the tenant or a person permitted on the residential property by the tenant has caused extraordinary damage to a rental unit or residential property;
(g) the tenant does not repair damage to the rental unit or other residential property, as required under section 32 (3) [obligations to repair and maintain], within a reasonable time;
(h) the tenant
(i) has failed to comply with a material term, and
(ii) has not corrected the situation within a reasonable time after the landlord gives written notice to do so;
(i) the tenant purports to assign the tenancy agreement or sublet the rental unit without first obtaining the landlord's written consent as required by section 34 [assignment and subletting];
(j) the tenant knowingly gives false information about the residential property to a prospective tenant or purchaser viewing the residential property;
(k) the rental unit must be vacated to comply with an order of a federal, British Columbia, regional or municipal government authority;
(l) the tenant has not complied with an order of the director within 30 days of the later of the following dates:
(i) the date the tenant receives the order;
(ii) the date specified in the order for the tenant to comply with the order.
(2) A notice under this section must end the tenancy effective on a date that is
(a) not earlier than one month after the date the notice is received, and
(b) the day before the day in the month, or in the other period on which the tenancy is based, that rent is payable under the tenancy agreement.
(3) A notice under this section must comply with section 52 [form and content of notice to end tenancy].
(4) A tenant may dispute a notice under this section by making an application for dispute resolution within 10 days after the date the tenant receives the notice.
(5) If a tenant who has received a notice under this section does not make an application for dispute resolution in accordance with subsection (4), the tenant
(a) is conclusively presumed to have accepted that the tenancy ends on the effective date of the notice, and
(b) must vacate the rental unit by that date.

 

[Ms.Lolita Monroe]

So sorry to hear about your situation Cameron. I would have been absolutely mortified. I remember once getting accused of running a "brothel" in my apartment- I was far far farrrr away from this industry at that time. I made my point, made my landlord feel horrible and got an apology out of the neighbor who complained.

It seems like nowadays there are more and more pooners who will not think twice before outting an incall/indie. Whoever did this to you will pay for it someday one way or another but for now moving is def the best option as you mentioned. Good luck on the new move and hopefully you find a place more suitable to your needs.

We are the perfect tenants till something like this comes up and the landlords completely forget our merits. This reminds me of a thread where someone was speaking about the convenience about a certain sp living in his building and in reply to that someone asked "How do you feel about a brothel being run in your building?" or something along the line of that. That is where I think the double standards come in. A pooner def enjoys going to see an sp in an upscale, beautiful clean condo and sometimes compliments their "incall" in reviews however if they happen to be a resident of the same building it turns into a "brothel". I fully understand most don't see it like that but there are always some who always will. Its sad but true.

 

[Ms.Lolita Monroe]

They're called NIMBY's Ms. LM.....Not In My Back Yard!!!!

ahhhhhahahah thanks for letting me know. Next time I see them I can yell out "NIMBYYYY" :nod:

 

[VanessaofBC]

You know, the building nazi assholes are a real pain. There's a few in my building, constantly quoting the strata bylaws at people.

Renters take it in the shorts especially, strata owners have a few more rights, but it can still be a pain in the ass. No wonder so many ladies have such weird and wonderful rules for coming and going to their buildings. Sorry you have to go through that Cameron, you seem like a great person, I wouldn't wish that on anyone.

Those last two lines ring true to me.

I had a disgruntled customer tell my neighbour I was an escort. At least it was just she and I living there, but she made a BIG scene. I had to cut my loses and move.

 

[PlayfulAlex]

You know, the building nazi assholes are a real pain. There's a few in my building, constantly quoting the strata bylaws at people.

Renters take it in the shorts especially, strata owners have a few more rights, but it can still be a pain in the ass. No wonder so many ladies have such weird and wonderful rules for coming and going to their buildings. Sorry you have to go through that Cameron, you seem like a great person, I wouldn't wish that on anyone.

So true, Mitch. It's particularly difficult when the caller is ESL. We ladies are called upon to have so many levels of patience.

One time, a regular visitor of mine forgot which floor I lived on. He buzzed my code at the front door, I let him in...no visitor. He buzzed my code again, I assumed the elevator had timed out. No client. He buzzed my code again, I'm like WTF is going on here? He says, in broken English, the elevator not working.

I step out of my lingerie and heels, quickly get into jeans and a t-shirt, take the elevator down to the front door, and let him in. We get into the elevator, I ask him to push the button, and he hits a floor, nowhere near mine.

I'm like, buddy, you've been here 10 times. I don't live on the 15th floor! I press the correct floor, and we head into my place.

All this, while I'm trying to be super discreet and offer a safe-haven for my visitors. I have NO interest in going down to the front door to let my visitors in, and possibly be open to the prying eyes of any neighbours or curiosity seekers, should they ever notice me with more than one gentleman caller, over a short period of time.

I know I'm allowed to have guests anytime, but I just don't want to bring ANY attention to myself and my hobby.

Anyway, sorry this happened to you, Miss CD. Hopefully the next place will be safer and more private.

 

[juniper]

On the other hand, how safe is it to reside in a building where innumerable strangers are allowed in at all hours of the day/evening?

 

[Feenix]

Sometimes we all get into a row with a pig and roll around in the mud, both getting dirty. The trouble is, the pig loves it.

Best to fold your tent and move on, Cameron.

 

[Cock Throppled]

If the strata ules say you can't operate a business that's all they need.

You wouldn't be the only person operating a low key, quiet business (accounting, sales, etc) that got evicted or forced out once someone complained.

 

[VanessaofBC]

If the strata ules say you can't operate a business that's all they need.

You wouldn't be the only person operating a low key, quiet business (accounting, sales, etc) that got evicted or forced out once someone complained.

I wonder if that is why my last IT guy would only meet me in the lobby of his building?

 

[vancity_cowboy]

I wonder if that is why my last IT guy would only meet me in the lobby of his building?

give him a break... he's an it guy fer chrissake

 

[hiddencloud]

give him a break... he's an it guy fer chrissake

Thankfully my office is nowhere near as messy as that.

 

[MissingOne]

If the strata ules say you can't operate a business that's all they need.

You wouldn't be the only person operating a low key, quiet business (accounting, sales, etc) that got evicted or forced out once someone complained.

A lady whom I used to see several times a year was harassed by her strata council for operating a business on the premises. She fixed the problem by getting herself elected to the strata council and successfully working to change the bylaws.

It worked out well for her, but of course what worked in her particular circumstances wouldn't be suitable for many people. For one thing, she had enough time and patience to do the political work.

 

[westcoast555]

prostitution is not illegal in the privacy of your home between consenting adults. they have no grounds to evict you unless there were lease terms stating specifically that you were not allowed male visitors.

this is why workers in the DTES living in SRO hotels are now allowed to have the customers come up to their rooms. the room is their home and so they have the right to have anyone they choose come and visit and also have the right to engage in a perfectly legal activity, prostitution.

you may want to move if you don't want the hassle. choose a bigger building so it would be hard to determine who was visiting who and scrutininze the landlords a bit before choosing your spot. concrete buildings are preferable too for the sake of noise. also, drapping curtains or cloth on the walls can cut down noise too...

sorry this is happening and if you want some one to advocate to them with you, let me know!

love susie

They can prohibit it based on strata rules. My strata rules have a section talking about 'anything that would bring the building into disrepute' or something like that. It's clearly aimed at SPs.

I don't have a problem with it and I'm sure there are probably SPs in my building. As long as everybody minds their own business who cares?