Buster's again, helpless woman left in car
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For the record, I DID go through ICBC, and the total damage was around $800 I think.cruizing said:Todays tow trucks pick your cars up by the tires not the bumper where were the scratches to your bumper did you go to ICBC why not?? That concern of filling a false claim stop you, any idiot can make up a story
Heres your sign
I am aware of how they tow cars. This damage was fresh. I am assuming that it happened when the vehicle was in their lot. I don't really care now, nothing I can do. It just pissed me off.
Do you work for a towing company or something?
I was just adding my thoughts to the thread
cruzing u a tow truck driver?It's ok to tow away car that are parked illegally.
But to tow away a car with someone inside,that person in the car was not feeling good thats the reason why the car was parked they.That tow truck driver is an idiot and cruzing u are one too for defending him.That person in the car is dead,someone is responsible for that,my money is on the towtruck driver.
cruzing u a tow truck driver?It's ok to tow away car that are parked illegally.
But to tow away a car with someone inside,that person in the car was not feeling good thats the reason why the car was parked they.That tow truck driver is an idiot and cruzing u are one too for defending him.That person in the car is dead,someone is responsible for that,my money is on the towtruck driver.
Actually, while I do think that the tow truck driver should have noticed that the car is occupied, the driver doesn't have the time to do an inspection. People are too violent these days and the drivers have all learned to hook-up and go before the owner comes dashing out. The equipment used to make hook-up faster isn't about protecting the car, it's about not having to release the parking brake or detach the drive shaft because too many drivers were injured by idiots.busdriver said:
The fault lies with the By-Law officer. They have all the time in the world, they are expected to take a picture front and back with their fancy ticket machine and I'll make a bet I can find a set of quidelines that requires them to look into the car.
Maybe she was Inuit, and this was the next best thing to putting her out on the ice.Juggy said:
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Ok Anonanon you went to ICBC and still had to shell out something like 8 beans to fix your car, hmmm Your story does not add up, if someone damaged you car a tow company or impound lot ICBC repairs your car and charges the respective company/tower however if they prove they did not cause said damage then you are responsible to pay witch I can only assume is the case, by your own defination. Your complaint the tow company was rude what did you expect you lied about damages filled a claim that was denied wasted thier time to defend your bogus claim and come crying here. Now Mr bus driver simple deduction should have revealed to you my ocupation was not a tower, I do however have alot to do with transportation thus my knowledge of transit pratices in driver training... Your Nick/handle would make one assume your representing a professional driver your observation are flawed and jaded, there is no regulation that requires a tower to search a vehicle prior to towing. Not withstanding them motor vehicle act witch does not permit a person or persons to occupy a vehicle while being towed, the liability is not the operater but goes to the indvidual much like the seatbelt laws where the driver is not fined/charged for an adult that does not wear a seatbelt. With respect to children it is strictly illegal to leave a child unattended in a motor vechicle, if a tower or anyone should observe this they should report it to the police most otwers will simply hold the vehicile until police and child services remove the child/children and place them into protective custody, however I'm sure that being a professional driver you were awear of that and follow the strictest letter of the law.
Again the fact speak for themselfs the tower simply did his/her duties as described, the family, doctor's, and Victoria did not and resulted in a tragic were this women passed away.
Now I've said it befor and sadly I'll have to say it again "Here's you sign"
Ok Anonanon you went to ICBC and still had to shell out something like 8 beans to fix your car, hmmm
Your story does not add up, if someone damaged you car a tow company or impound lot ICBC repairs your car and charges the respective company/tower however if they prove they did not cause said damage then you are responsible to pay witch I can only assume is the case, by your own defination. Your complaint the tow company was rude what did you expect you lied about damages filled a claim that was denied wasted thier time to defend your bogus claim and come crying here. Now Mr bus driver simple deduction should have revealed to you my ocupation was not a tower, I do however have alot to do with transportation thus my knowledge of transit pratices in driver training... Your Nick/handle would make one assume your representing a professional driver your observation are flawed and jaded, there is no regulation that requires a tower to search a vehicle prior to towing. Not withstanding them motor vehicle act witch does not permit a person or persons to occupy a vehicle while being towed, the liability is not the operater but goes to the indvidual much like the seatbelt laws where the driver is not fined/charged for an adult that does not wear a seatbelt. With respect to children it is strictly illegal to leave a child unattended in a motor vechicle, if a tower or anyone should observe this they should report it to the police most otwers will simply hold the vehicile until police and child services remove the child/children and place them into protective custody, however I'm sure that being a professional driver you were awear of that and follow the strictest letter of the law.Again the fact speak for themselfs the tower simply did his/her duties as described, the family, doctor's, and Victoria did not and resulted in a tragic were this women passed away.
Now I've said it befor and sadly I'll have to say it again "Here's you sign"
busdriver said it best
Yet one more fine example to confirm my long-held belief that tow truck drivers are the bottom feeders of our roadways. The reality of this situation is that the loser (aka: tow truck driver) was in such a big hurry to get the vehicle rigged up and get rolling before the owner came back, that he dared not risk the extra 15 seconds it would have taken to check the vehicle. Sure, checking inside a vehicle that's about to be towed is the logical thing to do, but not if you're a tow truck driver that's doin' his damndest to get this person's cash. I've always wondered if these assholes are on commission.
Yet one more fine example to confirm my long-held belief that tow truck drivers are the bottom feeders of our roadways. The reality of this situation is that the loser (aka: tow truck driver) was in such a big hurry to get the vehicle rigged up and get rolling before the owner came back, that he dared not risk the extra 15 seconds it would have taken to check the vehicle. Sure, checking inside a vehicle that's about to be towed is the logical thing to do, but not if you're a tow truck driver that's doin' his damndest to get this person's cash. I've always wondered if these assholes are on commission.
mustangjoe, yet another fine job of bringing the human race a notch lower on the evolutionary scale. Do you also stick up for muggers that rob little old ladies? After all, they're "just trying to make a little money".mustangjoe said:
I did not pay $800. ICBC did. I paid my deductable. $250. I needed to get it fixed quick. Not the best financial decision now that I look back on it but whatever. I did not lie about any damages. When I left my explorer, there was no damage. When I got my explorer back there was. Because I could not prove that the damage was not done before they picked it up, I would have lost the claim. So I just paid my deductible.cruizing said:Ok Anonanon you went to ICBC and still had to shell out something like 8 beans to fix your car, hmmm
Again the fact speak for themselfs the tower simply did his/her duties as described, the family, doctor's, and Victoria did not and resulted in a tragic were this women passed away.
Now I've said it befor and sadly I'll have to say it again "Here's you sign"
I was not pointing at you, I was simply making fun of the humor that is your taking this issue rather seriously. I did not mean to aim anything at you.
I think it's the fault of the impound yard. As soon as the car is brought in. It should always be checked and get the information of the owner right away, even the tow truck driver could have done that with out worry. That is all that had to be done and she probably would have lived.
Dementia? Who said anything about dementia? They said she pulled over because of a medical situation. That can be anything from the hiccups to a heart attack. Her neighbours (you know, the people who actually KNEW the woman) said she was very active, very friendly and loved gardening. She was an independent person who did her own grocery shopping and went for daily walks around the neighbourhood. Enjoy your sign.cruizing said:
As far as the trash talk that was directed to me in your post. You didn't have all of the facts, but thanks for passing judgement. I did indeed call 911, but because the driver bolted back to the tow yard and hid in the office, like a little bitch....hey was that you?, sending the yard operator back with the info, the police refused to charge the driver. No doubt that was a good will gesture toward the bottom feeders at Buster's on the part of the police and there was nothing I could do about it.
As an aside, I don't do drugs and I have never driven my parent's car...but that was a nice story you made up there, good job! Enjoy your sign
Who said anything about flashing lights. The dumb ass was trying to fill out his freakin paperwork while driving his truck down the road. Keep ur eyes on the road, especially if ur driving a huge commercial vehicle. I was lucky...i squeezed out of a tight situation.cruizing said:
Shit happens...everyone makes mistakes...but doing paper work while your driving down the road is just plain gross negligence. Are all tow truck drivers bad....no. But this guy was a piece of shit for floating all over the road....and a scumbag for not taking responsibility right away.
I find it interesting that some people in this thread are blaming everyone except the tow-truck driver for this tragedy: The only person on the spot who could have helped this woman before her condition passed the point-of-no-return. If only he had done his job properly and checked the vehicle, she might still be alive.
Dakota Wood said:...but that was a nice story you made up there, good job! Enjoy your sign
His standard response is call everyone else a liar and then make up a new story of his own, yet he calls others liars. Now there's irony for you! Could the towing industry have a worse ambassador?What do you think his native language was? Whatever they speak in trailer parks is my guess.
I heard on the news last night that the woman died. Apparently she suffered a stroke while driving and was able to pull over and stop, albeit in a no stopping zone. Now didn't someone ticket the car before the tow truck arrived? Do the police check abandoned or stopped vehicles on the mainland like they do here on the island? Here any car on the side of a road gets a red sticker on their mirror indicating that someone has checked it over, so every ploice officer isn't pulling over and checking again for as long as the car is there.
This is a case of pure negligence on the part of the first person to arrive on the scene, either the person who issued the ticket, or the tow truck driver. If the tow truck driver was second and saw the ticket, he could reasonably assume that the vehicle was checked over and that he could hook up and get out of the "no stopping" zone ASAP. If he was the first, he should have , like any reasonable person checked to see why the vehicle may be stopped. I predict a wrongfull death suit and a large settlement by the City. Taxpayers end up holding the bag for incompetent employees again.
(perhaps unions should be required to kick in for settlements because of incompetent employees, but that is a whole other issue)
This is a case of pure negligence on the part of the first person to arrive on the scene, either the person who issued the ticket, or the tow truck driver. If the tow truck driver was second and saw the ticket, he could reasonably assume that the vehicle was checked over and that he could hook up and get out of the "no stopping" zone ASAP. If he was the first, he should have , like any reasonable person checked to see why the vehicle may be stopped. I predict a wrongfull death suit and a large settlement by the City. Taxpayers end up holding the bag for incompetent employees again.
(perhaps unions should be required to kick in for settlements because of incompetent employees, but that is a whole other issue)
ok Ananon you got me there you paid your dep. for no reason other then to help out ICBC because they surly collected the damages from the guilty party. Dakota what did you say in you first post hmmm do you kiss your mom with that mouth, or was that the start of trash talk? Did you follow the news story from the begining or just jump in for the sensationalism and hype, Global reported she was suffering from dementia not I. In case you are wandering leaving the scene is a felony to witch police MUST investigate. Frankly waggin your ass in my face does not change the facts, the towers did exactly as they were instructed to do. Here is a little food for thought people who live in glass houses should not cast the first stone. Now be a good girl put on your sign befor we start discussing the legalities of what you do.
I am neither an ambassador nor employee of the towing industry as stated I do work in the transportation industry and as such am capable of making a unbiased and reasonably intelligent conclusion of this tragic event.
I am neither an ambassador nor employee of the towing industry as stated I do work in the transportation industry and as such am capable of making a unbiased and reasonably intelligent conclusion of this tragic event.
My thoughts
Let me preface this with.... I generally think most tow truck drivers are low brow troglodytes and have had nothing but negative experiences with Busters. I can't stand them!
With that out of the way.... I do not think busters or the driver in question is in anyway legally responsible for the condition of the woman. I think it is an incredibly unfortunate, tragic event. Do I think he should have had the good sense to see if he could look inside the car without opening it.... of course.
I think society has become entirely too litigious. We all want to have our cake and eat it too. We want our rights to privacy and life and safety but we also feel entitled to have everyone else responsible in someway to maintain what we perceive as our right to a certain standard of living as well. Busters is not in health care. He followed the "rules" as layed out in his job description. Should he have done more? Possibly, if he could see inside, but it was pretty frosted and that could be due to damp interior carpeting or a wet coat left inside. Is he legally responsible for her death? NO!
Little old ladies die of strokes. It's a very sad fact of life. I think everyone is especially sensitive to this as everyone had a cute little granny that they loved. And no one wants to think of a little granny dying cold and alone. It's a very very sad thing. And I think it terrifies people to think that that might be their fate. But we cannot start legislating laws to give power to those to do things that are beyond their control.
Let's say we passed a law that said a tow truck drivers MUST inspect the inside of a vehicle before towing to ensure that no one was in there, then you open a HUGE can or worms and give driver the capacity to search your vehicle and root through your stuff. Do you want him opening your glove box and knowing where you live or going through any stuff you left in your car. What about if smells and hi BO lingers in your car. What if you think he stole your stuff. Do we really want to empower people that we generally think of a pretty low on the social hierarchy going through your stuff?
It's VERY unfortunate and tragic, but let's stop all of this "They should file a suit!" stuff.
Let me preface this with.... I generally think most tow truck drivers are low brow troglodytes and have had nothing but negative experiences with Busters. I can't stand them!
With that out of the way.... I do not think busters or the driver in question is in anyway legally responsible for the condition of the woman. I think it is an incredibly unfortunate, tragic event. Do I think he should have had the good sense to see if he could look inside the car without opening it.... of course.
I think society has become entirely too litigious. We all want to have our cake and eat it too. We want our rights to privacy and life and safety but we also feel entitled to have everyone else responsible in someway to maintain what we perceive as our right to a certain standard of living as well. Busters is not in health care. He followed the "rules" as layed out in his job description. Should he have done more? Possibly, if he could see inside, but it was pretty frosted and that could be due to damp interior carpeting or a wet coat left inside. Is he legally responsible for her death? NO!
Little old ladies die of strokes. It's a very sad fact of life. I think everyone is especially sensitive to this as everyone had a cute little granny that they loved. And no one wants to think of a little granny dying cold and alone. It's a very very sad thing. And I think it terrifies people to think that that might be their fate. But we cannot start legislating laws to give power to those to do things that are beyond their control.
Let's say we passed a law that said a tow truck drivers MUST inspect the inside of a vehicle before towing to ensure that no one was in there, then you open a HUGE can or worms and give driver the capacity to search your vehicle and root through your stuff. Do you want him opening your glove box and knowing where you live or going through any stuff you left in your car. What about if smells and hi BO lingers in your car. What if you think he stole your stuff. Do we really want to empower people that we generally think of a pretty low on the social hierarchy going through your stuff?
It's VERY unfortunate and tragic, but let's stop all of this "They should file a suit!" stuff.
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