How sad that there is this story surrounding two professional football players. Bullying happens in a lot of places unfortunately....even here on PERB. http://www.wptv.com/dpp/sports/jona...-investigator-says-miami-has-been-cooperative
Bullying
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I think the "bullying" card is pulled way to easily these days.
Conflict is normal. But, it seems that in many cases when people get themselves into conflict and find they losing, they pull out the "bullying" card to try and recruit public opinion to regain the high ground again.
Conflict is normal. But, it seems that in many cases when people get themselves into conflict and find they losing, they pull out the "bullying" card to try and recruit public opinion to regain the high ground again.
Yea it's so unfortunate to have the racism and type of unacceptable remarks still made to this day. What a shame. It's also unfortunate how some people just want to sweep this under the rug. I think bullying happens everywhere though...at work, in traffic i.e. when someone starts beeping and yelling at you when you're driving the normal speed. Even here on PERB it happens as I'm sure some members want others to feel bad to make themselves feel good. How sad IMHO.
Strange that story about bullying in the nfl who would have thought some big fucking dude making millions a year could be bullied,
bullies need a victim don't be one.
Michael Vick paid his price to society.
you missed Bret Farve, he did things that most people would get fired for in their job, I sure as hell would.
and he never got fire still was doing commercials.
bullies need a victim don't be one.
Michael Vick paid his price to society.
you missed Bret Farve, he did things that most people would get fired for in their job, I sure as hell would.
and he never got fire still was doing commercials.
I think the problem starts at the very top.
If you see Parlimentarians or Legislative Assembly or members of the US Congress and the press organizations covering those bodies acting in a bullying manner; it has become acceptable to the general public to act in the same manner. I am not a person who watches FOX but have seen clips of Bill O'Reilly telling a guest to "shut up" repeatedly. I have seen him totally disrespecting Obama (when elected President) with constant interruptions, rude comments and disdain. One things all Americans hold dear is respecting the office of the Presidency and O'Reilly definitely crossed the line with that interview.
Americans have become so politically paralysed and now the Republicans have lost the White House they are still acting like they are in the midst of an election year. The US News Networks are reporting every sound bite to come out of Washington.
All this stuff filters down to the general public who find it acceptable to act in a bullying manner. I have witnessed people (men and women) being so rude to wait staff in restaurants and bars that I have actually spoken up and told them to learn some manners. Sure there was the usual mind your own business and let's step outside comments etc but I held my ground and told them I will be outside waiting when I finish my meal. When push came to shove they were just talk.
What is most troubling is the youth being spawned by a generation of privileged children who never learned any decent manners and have an air of douchebag entitlement. I recently saw a 12 or 13 year old boy butt into a long line up and a women spoke up and told him to get to the back of the line. He said "settle down you old woman" to this lady. He stood there for about five minutes by himself thinking the incident was over. I walked up to him and stood beside him. I quietly said to him that if he didn't move to the back of line, I would get security and have him moved. He chirped back at me and I just smiled at him and I would pick my spot once we are inside if he didn't go to the back of the line. He then shuffled back to the end of line. What is most bothersome to me in these incidents was my parents told me to respect your elders and the current younger generations have basically told their children to do whatever they want and not let any person interfere with their quality if life.
If you see Parlimentarians or Legislative Assembly or members of the US Congress and the press organizations covering those bodies acting in a bullying manner; it has become acceptable to the general public to act in the same manner. I am not a person who watches FOX but have seen clips of Bill O'Reilly telling a guest to "shut up" repeatedly. I have seen him totally disrespecting Obama (when elected President) with constant interruptions, rude comments and disdain. One things all Americans hold dear is respecting the office of the Presidency and O'Reilly definitely crossed the line with that interview.
Americans have become so politically paralysed and now the Republicans have lost the White House they are still acting like they are in the midst of an election year. The US News Networks are reporting every sound bite to come out of Washington.
All this stuff filters down to the general public who find it acceptable to act in a bullying manner. I have witnessed people (men and women) being so rude to wait staff in restaurants and bars that I have actually spoken up and told them to learn some manners. Sure there was the usual mind your own business and let's step outside comments etc but I held my ground and told them I will be outside waiting when I finish my meal. When push came to shove they were just talk.
What is most troubling is the youth being spawned by a generation of privileged children who never learned any decent manners and have an air of douchebag entitlement. I recently saw a 12 or 13 year old boy butt into a long line up and a women spoke up and told him to get to the back of the line. He said "settle down you old woman" to this lady. He stood there for about five minutes by himself thinking the incident was over. I walked up to him and stood beside him. I quietly said to him that if he didn't move to the back of line, I would get security and have him moved. He chirped back at me and I just smiled at him and I would pick my spot once we are inside if he didn't go to the back of the line. He then shuffled back to the end of line. What is most bothersome to me in these incidents was my parents told me to respect your elders and the current younger generations have basically told their children to do whatever they want and not let any person interfere with their quality if life.
Point taken. What about the Critical Mass Movement in Vancouver on random Fridays at Rush Hour which totally shuts down all traffic for those trying to commute out of the city? This is enabled by the VPD even though it is having a negative effect upon the majority of its citizens attempting to go home. Cyclists have been known to key cars that attempt to get through or in one circumstance that I recall one car got its window smashed by a bike lock.I’m just wondering when you got into my head and started typing on my behalf.
I couldn’t have said it better myself.
The only thing I would add would be non-direct examples, like drunk driving Premiers getting awards and cushy posts, cops getting away with murder (literally), etc… etc… etc…
So not only is there the whole entitlement problem, but also a lack of accountability as those in the public eye suffer little, if indeed any, consequences for their own actions.
Young people see that and say "hey, if I don't like something I can ignore the law and do as I please too". I would definitely put these Critical Mass idiots in a Bullying category when combined with violence and threats towards the public.
Sorry to piss on your Fire today L I J :nod:
Yes, Sarah the respecting Police and others in authority is a tough one to take. When I was in High School I was held back when a Cop grabbed a friend of mine totally randomly and proceeded to break his jaw and make a mess of his face. It was a huge problem for that Police Force because a good friend of ours whose father was a Queen's Council took on the assault case and pressed charges against the officer in question. With about ten witnesses and several Police who couldn't get their stories straight the Queen's Council got the officer dismissed. It set a precedent because after that the Police lost the faith of the Crown Attorney and the Judges in my area. They were unable to get young people charged for a long time. The Police Chief had to do a house cleaning because everyone thought they were corrupt. Eventually the Police Chief was fired by the Mayor and replaced with a more "Public Friendly" officer.
You should read Elliott Leyton he is a social anthropologist,
Canadian actually, or listen to him lecture if you ever get a chance.
His most famous work Hunting Humans. He is famous world wide for behavioral science and criminology.
If I remember correctly he made a lot of very interesting claims on culture, society and violence.
Agreeing with the sentiment it comes from the top.
Canadian actually, or listen to him lecture if you ever get a chance.
His most famous work Hunting Humans. He is famous world wide for behavioral science and criminology.
If I remember correctly he made a lot of very interesting claims on culture, society and violence.
Agreeing with the sentiment it comes from the top.
Thanks for your reccomendation sevenofnine. I'll make sure to read up on some of his work.
I would also recommend "The Lucifer Principle" by Howard Bloom
I think much of the problem stems from the social (face-to-face) disconnection that the internet has brought about.
It seems people are so much more adversarial these days.
Amigo, I couldn't agree more. We are losing the ability to be civil and polite in our everyday discourses.
I will admit to being a hyper-loquacious individual; I enjoy engaging in conversation with people! (Those that know me in person will undoubtedly NOT be surprised by this...) I strive to maintain the same levels of civility in my ONLINE conversations as I would in a personal conversation. I've learned some very interesting things about the world this way; for example, I can say 'hello' and 'thank you' in more than a dozen different languages, and due to a really good ear, I can say it well enough to bring smiles to the faces of those that hear it! I occasionally compose an email when I'm pissed off, but I almost never hit the SEND button without taking a time out for sober second thought...unless the asshole really deserves a good blasting!:eyebrows:
Excellent point. People these days seem to have lost their resilience. They are far too likely roll over to these cowards.
I am a small guy. I was bullied mercilessly when I was in school. I know how it feels. I had one kid who used to wait for me when I walked home from school everyday. He would push me down and hit me ect. One day I just said "enough" ... and I beat the living shit out of him. I never had a problem with him or anyone else at school after that... he was the "tough kid" at school.
Even today, I still get people who try to bully me and talk shit sometimes at clubs/bars. I never let them. I will go as far to say why don't you step outside and say that.... then they show their cowardly true selves.
Hear this and believe it: Anyone who treats another person badly has low self-esteem.
Sometimes just pointing it out will pop their bullying balloon.
" Wow... I'm sorry that you have such low self-esteem that you feel the need to treat me badly"
Try that and watch the reaction.
Ami, these days, you would've been sent to the principals office for reprimand. The bully would've been treated as a "victim" who needs help. Next, when the bullies parents inevitably went to the media to protest the harm brought upon their child, you would've been vilified at school and in the social media networks; cyber bullies would stalk you for your merciless beating of an already victimized child.
Welcome to the brave new world that the victims of bullies live in. You can't fight back, unless it's with words. You have to inform someone that you hope might care. You HAVE to turn you back on them and walk away.
At least, that's how it is in the school system.
If some drunk moron wants to pick a fight, well, the cops are pretty good at figuring out what happened, for the most part.
Welcome to the brave new world that the victims of bullies live in. You can't fight back, unless it's with words. You have to inform someone that you hope might care. You HAVE to turn you back on them and walk away.
At least, that's how it is in the school system.
If some drunk moron wants to pick a fight, well, the cops are pretty good at figuring out what happened, for the most part.
that was then... I'm talking about now. Back in my day, bullies came at you in packs... because losing wasn't something they could tolerate.
And how ironic is it that the biggest bullies in many schools are the people who run them. You will NEVER solve the problem of bulllying in schools until you get rid of the administrators and teachers who either enable or actively participate in bullying staff and students: believe it! When a teacher lets students vote on whether to send an autistic second grader to a 'quiet room' (solitary confinement in a padded janitors' closet), that's bullying. When a vice-principal figures out a way to repeatedly say a word that sounds JUST LIKE 'pu$Sy' to a female teacher in front of a room full of 6th graders, that's bullying. When a principal tells a teacher that 'thyroid cancer is no big deal; as cancers go, it's the best kind you can have!' that's not only asinine, it's bullying.
