Boycott.....

[susi]

https://perb.cc/vbulletin/showthread.php?196453-Boycott&p=1487581#post1487581

i am responding the a thread happening in the winnipeg section in which the clients are discussing boycotting any sp who charges more than $220 an hour....

i have seen may interesting arguments there and in particular a quote from carl marx...very interesting....

my question is this;

why does your boycott not also include those workers who charge LESS than a certain amount? undercutting, especially by migrant workers has undermined the wages of canadian sex workers almost everywhere.

so in the boycott, should you not also boycott those charging below a certain rate in order to support the "local ladies who are fair and reasonable"?

in the thread they mention workers on street being at the "price point" some clients are willing to pay...

well i would suggest you should pay them more, stop taking advantage and pay women, where ever they are in the industry at least a minimum wage....instead of waiting for the desperate to lower their prices or looking for a deal on street...

these kinds of discussions should go both ways if you really believe what you are posting .... if you feel $220 is a reasonable wage you should start paying all sp`s this wage as part of your action...including workers on street...

love susie

 

[Cock Throppled]

That has to be one of the most incredibly stupid boycotts in history.

I'm also going to boycott Faberge Eggs, private jets and Manhattan office buildings and anything else I never plan to buy, rent or could afford.

susi's boycott makes more sense. Boycott SP's undercutting, promising service they don't provide, upselling and using fake ads and pictures. Now THAT makes sense.

 

[johnsmit]

i allways.. payed the same.. for girl wheather they charged 180.. 200 or 220.. i gave them 250. That what i was willing to pay... and for some it was 300... .
i have never made the service or seeing some one i would like to see ..about money
When i dont have it i dont see them.. for there service.


This is the part that allways bothers me.. about how . men treat women..

 

[Jethro Bodine]

https://perb.cc/vbulletin/showthread.php?196453-Boycott&p=1487581#post1487581

so in the boycott, should you not also boycott those charging below a certain rate in order to support the "local ladies who are fair and reasonable"?

in the thread they mention workers on street being at the "price point" some clients are willing to pay...

well i would suggest you should pay them more, stop taking advantage and pay women, where ever they are in the industry at least a minimum wage....instead of waiting for the desperate to lower their prices or looking for a deal on street...

Because its Winnipeg. Nobody in Winnipeg wants to pay retail.

 

[VanessaofBC]

https://perb.cc/vbulletin/showthread.php?196453-Boycott&p=1487581#post1487581

i am responding the a thread happening in the winnipeg section in which the clients are discussing boycotting any sp who charges more than $220 an hour....

i have seen may interesting arguments there and in particular a quote from carl marx...very interesting....

my question is this;

why does your boycott not also include those workers who charge LESS than a certain amount? undercutting, especially by migrant workers has undermined the wages of canadian sex workers almost everywhere.

so in the boycott, should you not also boycott those charging below a certain rate in order to support the "local ladies who are fair and reasonable"?

in the thread they mention workers on street being at the "price point" some clients are willing to pay...

well i would suggest you should pay them more, stop taking advantage and pay women, where ever they are in the industry at least a minimum wage....instead of waiting for the desperate to lower their prices or looking for a deal on street...

these kinds of discussions should go both ways if you really believe what you are posting .... if you feel $220 is a reasonable wage you should start paying all sp`s this wage as part of your action...including workers on street...

love susie

Agree with the others, this is ridiculous, silly and PATHETIC!!!! Can I go tell him what a loser he is or would that be mean? :cheer2:

I would also like to say that is about as silly as saying "let`s stop shopping at mom & pop stores so we can get our stuff cheaper at the Walmart" :rollseyes:

 

[badbadboy]

Because its Winnipeg. Nobody in Winnipeg wants to pay retail.

oy vey, that's gonna leave a mark :nod:

Re the boycotting IMHO it would not work in Vancouver especially with the higher end SP's. They are usually fairly low volume taking one or two calls per day as it is and if a few guys got it in their minds that they weren't going to pay $600 or $700 for two hours then someone else would step up to pay the freight. There are some weeks that they are just booked solid now and I have to plan my pooning activity further in advance which can be difficult.

I do not 100% agree with susi on the boycotting the lower end priced ladies either because there are a lot of guys who purchase sex based upon the bottom line. They are not necessarily in this hobby for making a connection or establishing a rapport with an Asian worker but mainly for seeing them for 45 minutes and out the door. They are price conscious about everything from the cost of the room, cost of the service, what services are provided and whether or not to leave a tip on a $145 45 minute date.

 

[vancity_cowboy]

not to be too flippant about this, but in the words of the (in)famous todd bertuzzi:

'...it is what it is...'

the last time i looked we were living in a market based economy, so everybody is free to try anything they think will get them the product they wish for the best price they can get

however, personally i don't think it will work in this case because of the different classes of consumers in the business. you might be able to rally 40% to even 50% to the boycott - but you won't rally the other 40% who just don't give a damn because they've got the dough but don't have the time for games. and you certainly won't rally the white knights who publicly advocate paying even more than what is currently being charged!! (also see badboy's explanation above)

obviously i've pulled those percentages out of my ass so don't be arguing them

but i wish them luck nonetheless

 

[Georgieboy69]

At the end of the day it doesn't really matter if there is a boycott or not, the market is already correcting itself as pooners have decided to see certain ladies in a certain price point. That is the pooners prerogative, just as it is the SP's prerogative to charge whatever price she would like to. Prices in Winnipeg have been higher for awhile then some of the other major centres in Western Canada so it is now as in any business market having a price correction.

I personally will see whoever I want to, If I chose to see a SP at $200.00 or an SP at 300.00 it is my choice. Should my expectations be any different no, I expect a certain level of service if I do not receive that service then I speak with my wallet by not seeing that person again.

Some SP's do not like it when the discussion about pricing happens, unfortunately it is a price of doing business, consumers discuss prices on everything and that is what is currently happening. Look at the housing market for awhile every single house in Winnipeg was selling over the list price, now very few are selling for over list price a few still do but it is a much lower percentage.

The market always corrects itself and that is the reality.

 

[Tarzen]

Why tell others to Boycott a sp to lower their rates. The sp must be worth what they set their prices on. Is the guy boycott'g because he wants to do the shoot out but can't afford it and wants the sp to lower the price?

There are ways you can save up for the occasion... just go eat more mcdonalds and save until you reach your goal to see the sp. problem solved.

A sp have their rights to set up shop at their own prices. You as a customer have your own choice to find another within your affordable price and play shoot out with.

seriously... if you go to a pub in downtown Vancouver and the glass of coke is $10 are you going to boy cott them because you can get one at mcdonalds down the street for $2. How about this... are you going to boycott the hotel in downtown Vancouver because they charge 200 a night versus a hotel in Las Vegas that charges $30 a night.

 

[vancity_cowboy]

Why tell others to Boycott a sp to lower their rates. The sp must be worth what they set their prices on. Is the guy boycott'g because he wants to do the shoot out but can't afford it and wants the sp to lower the price?

There are ways you can save up for the occasion... just go eat more mcdonalds and save until you reach your goal to see the sp. problem solved.

A sp have their rights to set up shop at their own prices. You as a customer have your own choice to find another within your affordable price and play shoot out with.

seriously... if you go to a pub in downtown Vancouver and the glass of coke is $10 are you going to boy cott them because you can get one at mcdonalds down the street for $2. How about this... are you going to boycott the hotel in downtown Vancouver because they charge 200 a night versus a hotel in Las Vegas that charges $30 a night.

if enough people stay away from the $10 coke place or the $200 hotel room, they start to lose money. depending on management, then they either lower their prices or go bankrupt. on the other hand if they've got something that makes them desireable, enough people will pay the $10 or $200 and they'll stay in business

it's all about looks/attitude/service

***edit***

fuck me... how the danged hell did i get sucked into ANOTHER thread on escort prices?!?? :doh:

 

[badbadboy]

Boycotting a women because she reserves the right to say how much she feels is enough to share her mind, body and soul to a stranger for his enjoyment and pleasure. And your expectation is this women will do all of the sexual acts you desire, treat you like a king and take care of your every need with a smile on her face and like she truly wants to be there ? Good luck with that. How does your male mind comprehend that she should give a shit about ever having you as a client when you are attempting to shame her, belittle her, force her to lower her rates just so you can use her. No client that is worth our time would ever try and do that. If anything the boycottee's are just doing a good job of getting on every girls do not see list.

Well said is all I can say BC Babe

:thumb:

Cues music - Money for Nothing, chicks for free!

 

[susi]

oy vey, that's gonna leave a mark :nod:

Re the boycotting IMHO it would not work in Vancouver especially with the higher end SP's. They are usually fairly low volume taking one or two calls per day as it is and if a few guys got it in their minds that they weren't going to pay $600 or $700 for two hours then someone else would step up to pay the freight. There are some weeks that they are just booked solid now and I have to plan my pooning activity further in advance which can be difficult.

I do not 100% agree with susi on the boycotting the lower end priced ladies either because there are a lot of guys who purchase sex based upon the bottom line. They are not necessarily in this hobby for making a connection or establishing a rapport with an Asian worker but mainly for seeing them for 45 minutes and out the door. They are price conscious about everything from the cost of the room, cost of the service, what services are provided and whether or not to leave a tip on a $145 45 minute date.

i don't really agree with it either to be honest...if i need a cigarette and i am willing to suck cock for it, that's my choice....if i want to fuck a guy for $5...that is also my choice....

and not every guy can afford to pay the high end rates for a variety of reasons...

i support each individual sp defining their own rates.

i also don't think that minimum or maximum wages will ever be enforceable in our industry....

love susie

 

[badbadboy]

i don't really agree with it either to be honest...if i need a cigarette and i am willing to suck cock for it, that's my choice....if i want to fuck a guy for $5...that is also my choice....

i support each individual sp defining their own rates.

i also don't think that minimum or maximum wages will ever be enforceable in our industry....

love susie

susi

I think that boycotting the lower end ladies will have a very negative effect upon their livelihood, well being and ability to stay in Canada. I fear some boycott would also put them in a dangerous situation since their handlers won't see the same revenue stream. Like I said a boycott on the upper end ladies will only make those ladies more accessible since they are lower volume, higher dollar dates. It's lose lose for the AMP's IMHO.

 

[steverino]

I am generally in favour of market pricing and I think in the escort world it works very well. Ladies who offer superior service get the benefit of positive reviews and word of mouth which allows them to set rates above the average market price and still get the number of clients they wish. Those who provide a less valued service generally earn less per visit. I think this is fundamentally fair. But to be clear, I strongly agree with the notion that it is the lady who sets the price and establishes her comfort level with what she is prepared to provide. For anyone else to manipulate or rest control of the ladies right to determine the price she sets seems counterproductive (see BC_Babe comments) and mean spirited. Guys always have the option to select the provider who fits their service and price requirements.

 

[Thatotherguy]

Here's the really stupid thing about this "boycott". One of the reasons that SPs set their prices at the level that they do is because they want a certain volume of clients. If they want a low volume, they're going to set their rates higher. If they want a high volume, they're going to set their rates lower. The people boycotting those with higher rates aren't realistically going to affect them at all - partly because those guys probably weren't going to see those SPs anyway, and partly because the SPs with higher rates probably only want to see a fairly small number of clients anyway, and odds are there will always be enough clients willing to pay their rates to suit them.

Personally I'll see SPs who are within my price range. I'm willing to pay more to see someone if I feel that the experience will be worth it (and over a certain $$ amount I generally don't expect that the experience will be worth it - but that's fine because I'm sure that there are some guys out there who do). Conversely, I'm unlikely to ever see an SP whose rates are too low, because I expect that she'll likely be a provider who goes for high volume over a high quality experience. As I'm not just looking for a warm hole to fuck as cheaply as possible, that doesn't appeal to me. In my experience, the SPs whom I've seen who I had the best time with have all been ones who didn't want to have a lot of clients - most have been "1 appointment a day at most" types.

 

[hornygandalf]

I was rather bemused by the calls for a boycott. Doesn't make sense. It is a ladys' body and they have the choice of what services they offer and at what price. A gentleman has the choice as to whether he is willing to pay that price for the services and experience or not. If a lady over prices, she will find that her volume of clients may drop off and then will have to adjust... if necessary. Likewise, if a lady charges too low and provides amazing value, she will get flooded with clients and may decide to increase her charges to provide a more controlled flow (maybe). Ultimately, there are two parties to this transaction (will, maybe three in many cases if you take the handlers into account), but with freedom of choice on all sides to accept or reject what is being offered.

I'm not always in favour of a free market as they frequently gets distorted and are no longer free, but this does seem to be an area where the free market generally does its job.
There are ladies I would love to experience and enjoy. I can't afford their going rate, so I don't get to see them. Simple. And that isn't a boycott on my part.
Seems to be a lot of hot air and bluster to me.

 

[VanessaofBC]

I did not bother to read all the comments - but I hope someone told him to get a girlfriend.

 

[steverino]

He's boycotting his girlfriend; cost issues.

 

[bigben]

Please remember that the current antics in the Winnipeg forum are the views and actions of a small but vocal group of people - we have a phrase for them: "econopooners". Not all of us Winnipeggers share their opinions nor support their actions. They are not representative of the clients of Winnipeg and certainly not of Winnipeg as a whole. I personally share Georgieboy69's perspective - I've paid $200 and had a great time, I've paid $300 and had a great time, and am perfectly willing to pay either if treated fairly. I respect the providers of Winnipeg and appreciate the great ladies who visit our city. Unfortunately, a loud few who do not share that view exist in Winnipeg and always will.

 

[Man in Submission]

This boycott concept is laughable for any number of reasons, the vast majority of which have been covered here already. I would further add that I couldn't give a damn about supporting a boycott and most guys feel the same way. It's not a 'team' game - seeing a lady is a very private thing, the process of how and how much I donate is not something I would care to share with 'pooners'. (is a subby a pooner?

These threads just get so tiresome (I know, so why am I even commenting), but it just reeks of bitter, ignorant guys who feel they have to rant just because they can't get their own way. As I've stated before, ladies earn and deserve their compensation and then some just for having to be subjected to this same old garbage time and time again, not to mention the idiots who feel they can book a session and then try to negotiate a lower rate. And the guys who book a session and don't show.

I have had lady friends who have worked in this industry and seen how much time and effort they put into every session. The clothing, the makeup, the shoes, the email and text/phone interaction, laundry, juggling times ... guess what, not many have secretaries (though as a slave I have and again would do all that for the right girl . A lot of guys simply look at the session itself and not all the other moving parts. It is not easy by any stretch.

I commend the ladies who put so much into their careers and are able to manage the financial end of it adeptly to set themselves and in some case their kids up for the future. Good for all of You ladies - and don't let the incessant rantings of a small group of whiners and complainers frustrate you, or paint the good guys who know how diligent you work to ensure they have a good time and have their fantasies fulfilled, get you down.

sorry about this long tirade. I heretofore vow never to read another thread complaining about SP prices, and will also never comment on one again.

mis.