Boycott

[young60]

Ok, this has been discussed in another page, and its time we all do our part. Who here will sign up for this action for the next 6 months- 1 year???
From now on, I will not see any girl who charges over $220 hr, local or touring. If I already made a appointment with someone who does , I will cancel it immediately (as long as you can).
I will start seeing more of the fantastic local girls we have, but will try and see if I can negogiate a rate of $160hr - $200 hr which I feel is more in line with what the price should be , or $120-$140 hh rate.
Who else is in?
We honestly can make a difference. We have at least 10-15 local girls who give amazing service for the rates we seek...why cant more?

 

[Farva]

What would help would be a rundown of those great local girls.

 

[bowtie44]

Ok, this has been discussed in another page, and its time we all do our part. Who here will sign up for this action for the next 6 months- 1 year???
From now on, I will not see any girl who charges over $220 hr, local or touring. If I already made a appointment with someone who does , I will cancel it immediately (as long as you can).
I will start seeing more of the fantastic local girls we have, but will try and see if I can negogiate a rate of $160hr - $200 hr which I feel is more in line with what the price should be , or $120-$140 hh rate.
Who else is in?
We honestly can make a difference. We have at least 10-15 local girls who give amazing service for the rates we seek...why cant more?

Well said Young. I totally agree we have a lot of good local woman and should support them and the rates should be reasonable.

 

[Sixpak]

By all means, do what you need to do but here's the potential downside.

What if your employer came to you and said she thinks the market price has become overinflated for your skill set? She has decided to forcibly correct it and asks you to take a 25% pay cut but requires you to work just as hard or even harder than before.
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Personally, I don't want to be with a lady who feels devalued, thinks I'm a jerk and will only give the bare minimum.

Having said that, if you do manage to force the talent out of Winnipeg, please send them my way.

No problem, we have local we can send ... we will be telling Michelle/Shelly and the girl who is "good looking enough to be fired at Earls" to head your way.
AND there is Christy/Krissy who had been asking 300 and advertises constantly, and you may have already taken Bailey from us as we never see any ads lately.
Have fun! ;-)

 

[PierreCoeur]

This is like saying you want the car dealer to lower the price of their Ferrari F12 - Berlinetta down to the price of a Hyundai Accent. You are a total idiot. Although there are few girls that I would ever pay $300 and above for, when I can't find a girl or car I can afford, I find a girl or car that I can afford.

Try organizing a boycott of a Ferrari dealership and everyone will laugh. Even those of us who could never afford one, we understand the economics of a supply and demand price practice. But then there are those who will never understand, and that is why they will never have a good paying job that they can drop $300 now and then for the pleasure of a sexy hot lady that demands a fair price for what she is doing.

 

[PierreCoeur]

Oh and just to be clear with what I am saying . . . I am sure that there are plenty of girls walking the streets in Winnipeg that are at your price point. When you spend your dollars shopping at Walmart, don't expect to shop at Holt and Renfrew and for them to charge the same Walmart prices for better quality products. To the ladies at Perb, I am sorry for commodifying you. That isn't my intent with the comparisons

 

[JackBeNimble]

I'm willing to pay more IF the quality's there. Any SP can claim the quality's there (see our pationate friend Christy or whatever she calls herself this week), but in many local and touring cases, it's not. To keep the commodities analogy going, a Gucci will cost what a Gucci costs, and a boycott won't change that necessarily. We just need to be careful not to pay brand name prices for rip offs.

If you think she's worth it, pay it. If not, don't. Everyone's tastes will be slightly different.

 

[Sixpak]

I'm willing to pay more IF the quality's there. Any SP can claim the quality's there (see our pationate friend Christy or whatever she calls herself this week), but in many local and touring cases, it's not. To keep the commodities analogy going, a Gucci will cost what a Gucci costs, and a boycott won't change that necessarily. We just need to be careful not to pay brand name prices for rip offs.

If you think she's worth it, pay it. If not, don't. Everyone's tastes will be slightly different.

Makes sense Jack.
What everyone is complaining about is the ladies that assume they can ask the top fee and have no clue about how to provide comparable high quality service. They see how popular some of the ladies are that set a high fee and now we are inundated with ads for high fees by ladies that rip off customers, use fake pics, provide poor service. Everyone has been looking for gems and expecting high quality service especially from the ladies from Quebec that are lately abundant in Winnipeg. (Are they also going to Regina, Saskatoon, Alberta, or do they see Wpg as the mecca?)There is no info about the service of many of these ladies, and clients need to toftt and report on here for others to find out but meanwhile the lady may have seen quite a few clients and are gone before word is out.

The reliable local ladies are the ones who are losing out as many are booking new SPs for 100 to 150 above the fee set here. Clients, most anyway, do not have unlimited funds, so will not be booking the reliables very soon, so there is a big snowball effect. Too many have been burned, so that is why there is so much frustration among the clients. Quite a few are 'retiring' or laying low, refusing to pay over a limit they set for themselves. We are in budget mode like our governments. I have great memories about the ladies I have seen and do not want to experience poor sessions for high fees! Those bad memories spoil it all.

 

[humper1]

I'm pretty much in boycott mode for the year. I just don't see the VFM anymore

 

[Balrog]

I'm in (as I've said before) but I wouldn't "negotiate".
I never do; if the price is right I pay what's asked and that's it. I do believe that it is embarrassing to tell a lady that she's not worth what she's offering - I rather just give my money to the ones who are more realistic about their business (like Emily) and even give them a tip on top of their rates.
So, yeah, let's pay what's fair, no more, but NO less either.

 

[SuperSam]

I'm in (as I've said before) but I wouldn't "negotiate".
I never do; if the price is right I pay what's asked and that's it. I do believe that it is embarrassing to tell a lady that she's not worth what she's offering - I rather just give my money to the ones who are more realistic about their business (like Emily) and even give them a tip on top of their rates.
So, yeah, let's pay what's fair, no more, but NO less either.

I agree Balrog with Balrog. I also agree that there is some good talent in Winnipeg that we need to support. I myself have only been with a couple of tour ladies and for the price I will keep my business close to home. I will not haggle with a lady over the price as its just seems wrong. If they ask too much I just go elsewhere.

SS

 

[WellHung]

We live in a city that is among the lowest in north america in terms of cost of living. Yet the prices are on par with Vegas and LA. THAT is why people are pissed.

 

[humper1]

You can bet the local ladies are loving this discussion. Just make sure you are booking reputable girls. The bad BP girls will have a hay day with this renewed local interest.

 

[Sixpak]

You can bet the local ladies are loving this discussion. Just make sure you are booking reputable girls. The bad BP girls will have a hay day with this renewed local interest.

Hopefully one of the local scammer SPs will capture a white rabbit in her high priced trap.

 

[george.caruthers]

I haven't seen a local girl who charges more than $220 for quite a while now. For a touring lady with a good rep, $280. I have seen many good local girls in this price range. Support your local pussy! Eat only home grown!

 

[Crumb]

i suspect touring girls will rather skip your city rather than put up with your bullshit if/when they figure most pooners are on board with a boycott.
your loss, not theirs.
other city's that can stop at or stay longer at more profitable ones.

 

[trebrep]

The market is always at work regardless of whether there is an organized boycott or not. The invisible hand of economics. The demand is always high. Male desire never goes out of vogue. In the hey day of pre-recession 2008/09, Montreal girls, for example, were getting good money from the buoyant economy. The recession hits along with a glut of SP's willing to work for as little as $100. High demand, high supply = low prices. I have talked to quite a few Montreal girls and most have said the local Montreal scene is not lucrative.

The girls look west to little old Winnipeg. The economy is always steady here, and I believe the supply of quality local SP's has dwindled sharply. I know many disagree, but gone are the days where I could see Mystique, Elizabeth, Brooke, Kerry, Mandy, Stacey, Chanel, Savannah (at her peak) etc at any given time. We don't have a lot of exotic local black or Asian girls either. Now we have the touring girls coming for short periods. High demand, limited availability ("supply") = higher prices. If I want to see Manuella Cruz, for instance, I have 3 days to choose from and then she's gone. When Korean Jenny was touring here, I figured she would be back to Korea someday so I tried to see her as often as possible.

I am certainly not trying to justify higher rates, nor do I want them to be higher. If I could get quality service from a gorgeous SP and a roast beef sandwich for 50 bucks, I'd be all over it. VIPTOG has nailed it, IMO. Send Asian girls here for a reasonable price and no bait and switch that I have encountered. If the SP doesn't completely knock your socks off, you don't feel like you broke the bank. VIPTOG is probably very busy.

I am just saying that I believe we are already voting with our wallets. I don't see many local girls because I don't believe there enough quality SP's to justify the expenditure. I think the worst thing happening now is not just that prices are $300, but that often $300 gets you a bad experience from those nefarious SP's who are taking advantage of the dearth of local talent. But then a touring girl like Eva Pearl comes along and my knees are weak for days. Guess where I am spending my money?

If the boycott can work, great. Effective use of this board is probably one of the best ways to keep things in check. If we pitch in and make sure poor quality, scams and rip offs are exposed, then we weed those out. We review quality girls and their status is elevated, they will make a fair return and we all will be happier.

 

[pjrd]

you guys are funny. good luck with your boycott lol.

 

[rubintugger]

Pretty sure the boycott is already happening by the "participating" pooners. A boycott of something you have already given up or refuse to do isn't really a boycott.

No one on this board, ever, is going to see an unreviewed BP girl for $250+. Ever. That is a fact.

No one on this board is going to see a badly reviewed girl period.

The vast majority of the board will see local ladies in the $180-$220 range, and the few exceptional locals at $250. They will well reviewed travelling girls at whatever price they decide is worth it, $250, $300 or even more.

So, as far as pricing goes, not really an issue.

If you are trying to get bp girls like Chrissy to lower their rates from $300 to $200, why? No one here would spend $200, or maybe even less to see a poorly reviewed SP.

So I really don't see the point. The market balances to a standard.

Now, if you are leaving a well respected $250 SP and say "Jeeze, at $200 I'd probably see you every week, or at least a lot more", and she decides that would be nice, then hey, you have influenced your personal marketplace. And that, I can understand.

Personally, I like the rip off "ladies" to advertise high. Stops any of us from even considering it. If they started advertising $120/hr, how many pooners would be sucked in and B&S'd or worse...

 

[bigben]

The Winnipeg forum goes through this every three months or so from the same group of people - that's why I stick to other forums on PERB, PMs, and other boards lately. I have to ask though: if some of you guys (and believe me, it's a very small but vocal group) are so angry, why don't you just get another hobby? Don't you ever ask yourselves, "Gee, maybe there's more to life than trying to get women to sleep with me for $200 instead of $300"? Like, maybe the issue isn't the ladies or the prices but yourselves? Just sayin'. There's more to life, guys. If you want to boycott providers, you're doing them a favour.