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ThisEndUp

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Now that the boogie man hiding in the cave is dead, I feel much safer in my streets, my home and during my various commutes. Does this now mean that we can bring our troops home and stop killing hundreds of thousands of innocent people? So when do they start repealing the Patriot Act, stop snooping on our internet and phones, removing the airport porno scanners and letting us bring spoons onto planes again?
10 years, 2 wars, 919,967 deaths, and $1,188,263,000,000 later, the US supposedly kills one person. Was it really worth it?
what about sporks? are sporks ok?

 

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Now that the boogie man hiding in the cave is dead, I feel much safer in my streets, my home and during my various commutes. Does this now mean that we can bring our troops home and stop killing hundreds of thousands of innocent people? So when do they start repealing the Patriot Act, stop snooping on our internet and phones, removing the airport porno scanners and letting us bring spoons onto planes again?
10 years, 2 wars, 919,967 deaths, and $1,188,263,000,000 later, the US supposedly kills one person. Was it really worth it?
Was it really worth it?.....Hmmm...there have been no successive terror attacks anywhere near the scale of 9-11...no successful plane hijackings resulting in more innocent lives killed...despite much planning amongst terrorist groups....and many foiled attempts..in-fact...no successful terrorist event on US soil (or Canadian) since 9-11. I suppose we should go back to complacency and relax all the rules....that would appease your faulty sense of logic.....Why not give terror a chance as your sarcasm would indicate?

Perhaps if these measures had failed to prevent terrorist attacks you're mistaken logic would help convince you that the measures were more necessary. It always amuses me......when security measures succeed in preventing large scale criminal/ terrorist events....many of the illogical masses believe the measures were not worth it.

Enjoy your freedom here....it does not come cheaply. We live the way we do because of the ability to respond to threats against us......Humankind will always have this dark side....it only takes 1 in 1000...or fewer than that, for true evil to prey upon the innocent. Terrorists who strictly target civilians do not deserve the skin they were born with or the air they are breathing....And spare me any comments about how the US is the real terrorist, they act under public and democratic scrutiny...terrorist operate in the shadows with impunity. And your comments about our troops killing hundreds of thousands of innocent people.....why don't you go serve our country and wear our uniforms, breathing in the sweaty, dry choking heat of the Middle East sun, protecting these innocent people with your own life.....then come back...and see if you still want to spew out such disrespectful nonsense.
 

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I always thought Osama Bin Laden had such a pleasant looking expression on his face. If you looked into his eyes ... u saw no evil. If you never heard the translation of the words he supposedly said ... he looked like a really nice, friendly person. Ya, I know Ted Bundy was pleasant looking but you could see the evil in his eyes ... Bin Laden .. not so much. It's all very confusing.
Bundy had throngs of female admirers during his trial. He even married one and fathered a little future psychopath while he was on trial. Phil Jablonski the same. Oh, and let's not forget the groupies of Richard Ramirez. He too married while on death row. And heaven forbid should this incarnation of evil be denied the ability to reproduce while he sits on death row ...oh no the inhumanity !

So nice of you to see the calm peace in his eyes.....

Aren't you happy you never got to play him in poker ?
 

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Bizarre News Item

It was reported this morning that an overzealous faction of the Republican Party had to be appeased by the Obama administration for their decision to bury Osama Bin Laden's
body at sea, and not go ahead with a seemingly fanatical idea put forward by none other than George W. Bush. Apparently "W" was a fan of the Brad Pitt movie, "Troy", where
Brad, as Achilles, drags the slain body of Hector behind his chariot before the Trojan people . George actually wanted to don his cowboy hat and drag Bin Laden's body behind
his horse over the White House lawn before an assembled audience of relatives of the 9/11 victims, as a ritualistic purging of grief. "It's time America got her swagger back ,"
opined Bush. The Obama administration were adamant that such a spectacle would do far more harm than good.
 

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I always thought Osama Bin Laden had such a pleasant looking expression on his face. If you looked into his eyes ... u saw no evil.
Hitler was a very charismatic person too. Millions of Germans were mesmerized by him.
 

ThisEndUp

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Interesting then that they were able to fly in 4 helicopters through Pakistani air space unchallenged, indulge in a 40 minute firefight and get out-- all the while within shooting distance of a Pakistani military academy and yet no intervention of any kind by the host country.

What am I missing?
I can see the choppers getting through, and that he was in Pakistan, but yes a 40 minute fire fight?

Suspect Osama has been dead for a while, the timing is very strange
 

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Was it really worth it?.....Hmmm...there have been no successive terror attacks anywhere near the scale of 9-11...no successful plane hijackings resulting in more innocent lives killed...despite much planning amongst terrorist groups....and many foiled attempts..in-fact...no successful terrorist event on US soil (or Canadian) since 9-11. I suppose we should go back to complacency and relax all the rules....that would appease your faulty sense of logic.....Why not give terror a chance as your sarcasm would indicate?

Perhaps if these measures had failed to prevent terrorist attacks you're mistaken logic would help convince you that the measures were more necessary. It always amuses me......when security measures succeed in preventing large scale criminal/ terrorist events....many of the illogical masses believe the measures were not worth it.

Enjoy your freedom here....it does not come cheaply. We live the way we do because of the ability to respond to threats against us......Humankind will always have this dark side....it only takes 1 in 1000...or fewer than that, for true evil to prey upon the innocent. Terrorists who strictly target civilians do not deserve the skin they were born with or the air they are breathing....And spare me any comments about how the US is the real terrorist, they act under public and democratic scrutiny...terrorist operate in the shadows with impunity. And your comments about our troops killing hundreds of thousands of innocent people.....why don't you go serve our country and wear our uniforms, breathing in the sweaty, dry choking heat of the Middle East sun, protecting these innocent people with your own life.....then come back...and see if you still want to spew out such disrespectful nonsense.
Where is your evidence that any terrorists where planning to attack the U.S. since 9/11? The U.S media is a bullshit machine that would make the Pravda in Russia blush. They waited for the right time to tell us Bin Laden is dead, who knows how long his body was on ice? They didn't want to spoil the Royal Wedding, but they announced it the day before the Canadian election. How much did that play into a Conservative majority?
 

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Where is your evidence that any terrorists where planning to attack the U.S. since 9/11? The U.S media is a bullshit machine that would make the Pravda in Russia blush. They waited for the right time to tell us Bin Laden is dead, who knows how long his body was on ice? They didn't want to spoil the Royal Wedding, but they announced it the day before the Canadian election. How much did that play into a Conservative majority?
Interesting take on it. I hadn't considered that. All the more interesting in light of the Canadian decision on the advanced fighters.

I have to agree with the question Shakerod raises at the beginning of his post. The argument "look how many attacks we prevented" is a bit like the old Bert and Ernie sketch in Sesame Street where Bert asks Ernie why Ernie has a banana in his ear. Ernie replies that it keeps the alligators away. Bert remarks that he doesn't see any alligators and Ernie's reply is "See, it works!" or words to that effect. Most of the intrusive and abusive tactics resorted to by government are much more effective at controlling the general population and giving us a false sense of security than they are at actually stopping anything. If the government was really serious about travel security instead of controlling the citizenry, it would adopt the Israeli model and stop using high tech gadgets to solicit our submission and coerce our conformity.

Personally, I would prefer a bit more risk and a lot less violation of my civil liberties.

Ben Franklin was pretty damn smart.
 

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Where is your evidence that any terrorists where planning to attack the U.S. since 9/11? The U.S media is a bullshit machine that would make the Pravda in Russia blush. They waited for the right time to tell us Bin Laden is dead, who knows how long his body was on ice? They didn't want to spoil the Royal Wedding, but they announced it the day before the Canadian election. How much did that play into a Conservative majority?
Considering Obama is a left wing democrat, I'm not sure he would be all that interested in helping achieve a Conservative majority in Canada. Beyond that we must consider that 99% of the people in the USA were not even aware that Canada had an election or would care for that matter.
 

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Considering Obama is a left wing democrat, I'm not sure he would be all that interested in helping achieve a Conservative majority in Canada. Beyond that we must consider that 99% of the people in the USA were not even aware that Canada had an election or would care for that matter.
No, I talking about the bankers, oil companies and the elites that run the world. Do you really think Obama controls anything?
 

bcneil

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Yeah gotta say, don't think the Canadian election was a big consideration in the timing of this release.
The actual numbers were very close to recent polling.
Just look at Al's picks.

Also I dont believe the conservatives got their majority due to the bin Laden announcement either.
Seems like a waste of a big thing, if you ask me
 

HankQuinlan

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There is no evidence that would satisfy conspiracy theorists; it simply isn't possible. Those photos are faked, that video is faked, how do we know that is his DNA? Occam's Razor simply does not apply when it comes to these folks; quite the opposite.

And, sigh, we have them in the ndp caucus, making it harder to for them to gain credibility. The second-in-command made his comments today on bin Laden:
http://www.thestar.com/news/canada/...eader-mulcair-doubts-u-s-has-bin-laden-photos

And, remember, Libby Davies read her 9/11 truther manifesto in Parliament...although I am sure she will not address the topic these days. Jack has a lot of work to do.
 

bcneil

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There is no evidence that would satisfy conspiracy theorists; it simply isn't possible. Those photos are faked, that video is faked, how do we know that is his DNA? Occam's Razor simply does not apply when it comes to these folks; quite the opposite.

And, sigh, we have them in the ndp caucus, making it harder to for them to gain credibility. The second-in-command made his comments today on bin Laden:
http://www.thestar.com/news/canada/...eader-mulcair-doubts-u-s-has-bin-laden-photos

And, remember, Libby Davies read her 9/11 truther manifesto in Parliament...although I am sure she will not address the topic these days. Jack has a lot of work to do.
I dont get it. If I was one of those guys who doesn't believe he is dead, or whatever, and this is all fake.
No picture would change that. Of course if you believe this already, any picture you see, is going to be called photoshop.

Someone else posted he thought he was dead years ago, cause we only see him in video.......
As opposed to what? Live tv. What other way could we see him besides videos?
Youtube?
 

HankQuinlan

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He obviously died years ago.

There was never any video released of his so-called statements, only audio recordings. The US needed him as the bogey man and perpetuated the myth.

Not sure why they are now claiming this other than to bolster the nation, but highly suspicious there is no body and a partial DNA analysis settles things.

<b>I'm not a conspiracy theorist</b>, but this one is wide open for speculation.
Um...yes you are.
 
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