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Better immunity from being a GFE provider?

*emmanuelle

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Since exposure to germs is supposed to increase our immunity from illnesses, is it true that being a GFE escort would lead to a better defense against colds and flus?

I used to get at least one cold per year, but after a few years of being an escort, I *never* get sick (though this could be because of/in addition to the fact that as an escort I get more sleep and have less stress than I did before)

Any armchair physicians (or real physicians!) have any intel?
 

sevenofnine

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i think alot of factors go into play,
i personally see hundreds of people a day
some of them will cough and sneeze right in your face
changing money which is supposed to be dirty,
i rarely get sick, like almost never
but like years ago i would get bronchitis twice a year,
i think it had to do with spring and yard clean up i would get in bushes and kick the dust around and breath it all in. i wear a mask now when it gets dusty.

i or some one went to a doctor recently with bronchits and the doctor said it has to do more with mosture in the air chemicals and dust pollen

lots of sleep especially when you feel down, don't push it, listen to your body.
i mean ten years ago i would hit the cycle path and go no matter what, i just felt a little off, but what the hell and i would get out there on a chilly day and just go like hell, and i like i said feeling not at my best,
and guess what three days or so latter, i was in bed sick

after cancer i was more intune with my body,
a doctor told me once, your body is constantly fighting off infections
but if something like happens you let yourself get run down or say get drunk or just push yourself to much your body needs to repair it self,
it opens a door for germs
 

Ms. Yoko Anna

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There is some sex fact that suggest having a sex at least once a week would boost your immune system p to 30%.
If you want to know for sure, I hold suggest to ask health nurse.

I also notice that I get a cold from clients as well.
Since I am all for dfk and like to invite clients tongue all the way in, I guess it is sometime inevitable.

Emmy, you seem to have super heathy lifestyle.
I'm sure your discipline and control on your daily life would lead you to have super healthy body.
 

Miss*Bijou

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I've actually wondered about that. lol

I've had one cold (and it was a pretty tame cold at that) since I started working as an escort (that's a bit over 5 years, or something like that).

When I first started, maybe the first 6 months, I kept getting random eye infections, a cut I got on my finger getting infected and being really hard to get rid of. My immune system was obviously struggling to fight things off. Then my first visit back to Montreal, two days after getting there, I had an ingrown hair that went from nothing to being full-on infected in the space of a day. I dragged myself to the emergency room and was in the hospital for 5 days. :eek:

But since then, nothing. Not a cold, not an eye infection, nothing (just allergies lol) I don't know if that's the reason for it.

I used to get at the very least one cold, usually two every winter when I was back in Montreal. The year I first moved in with a roommate who worked with kids, going to different schools or meeting one on one, we were both sick so many times that winter, it was insane. Then the following years weren't as bad.

So I kind of assumed that my body went all wonky from being exposed to all these new bugs when my roommate brought them home from those kids (kids are full of bugs lol) but then eventually my immune system got a boost and same probably happened from close contact from gfe. But who knows, it's just a theory - not scientific or anything. lol
 

Volpina Vance

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I've noticed the same thing - I'm never sick anymore. When I suggested the idea of my boosted immunity to one medically-minded friend, he posited that escorts and their clients may share this boosted immunity, and rather than infecting each other with common ailments, we may all be passing around superbugs. I see the logic here, but I also come into close personal contact contact (saliva and vaginal fluid) with more people per week than the average client and haven't fallen prey to any superbugs in the two years I've escorted, so I'll maintain that we escorts do profit immunity-wise from our promiscuity. :)
 

lenny

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Studies of sex workers in Africa showed some women seemed immune to HIV. However when they stopped working for a long period of time and then started again, they became susceptible to infection. Use it or lose it I guess.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC153697/

http://www.accessexcellence.org/WN/SUA04/natural_immunity_HIV.php
"Since the onset of the HIV/AIDS pandemic in 1981 cases of people with a natural immunity to HIV have been documented...This mutation likely evolved to provide added protection against smallpox...up to 1% of Northern Europeans (with Swedes being in the majority) followed by a similar percentage of Central Asians have this mutation, which if inherited from both parents provides them total immunity while another 10-15% of Northern Europeans and Central Asians having inherited the mutation from one parent exhibit greater resistance in lieu of complete immunity to HIV...in Africans, a small (number) also exhibit...natural immunity (possibly developed through exposure) to HIV/AIDS...to prevent HIV from penetrating based on an intensive study of 25 Nairobi prostitutes who...have "had sex with hundreds, perhaps thousands of HIV-positive cients" and shown no sign of contracting HIV...At the same time, up to 75% of newborn babies also possess natural immunity
(for reasons still not known) when exposed to HIV-positive blood. Although born with HIV antibodies - thus HIV-positive, newborns "usually lose HIV antibodies acquired from their HIV-positive mothers within 12-16 - maximum 18 months," in which their "spontaneous loss of [HIV] antibodies" without medical intervention is called seroreversion. "However, with the exception of very few instances, these infants are not HIV-infected" conclusive proof of a natural immunity to HIV.[1]"

http://ezinearticles.com/?HIV-AIDS---Immunity,-Eradication-and-Its-Disappearing-Victims&id=3871400
http://usgovernmentbenefits.org/hd/index.php?t=immune+to+aids
http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2011/05/16/apparent-immunity-gene-cures-bay-area-man-of-aids/
http://www.accessexcellence.org/WN/SUA04/natural_immunity_HIV.php
http://www.wired.com/medtech/health/news/2005/01/66198
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/evolution/library/10/4/l_104_06.html
http://www.medicalcareadvices.com/
 

*emmanuelle

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Hmm, so it looks like escorts are mutating into a superhuman, disease-resistant species. Come the pending apocalypse, all that will survive are cockroaches and escorts.

Bow down and hail to the heirs of humanity!
 

AA_Train

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Who would of thought semen was such good cough medicine :pound:
 
I would have to agree, in the past 3 years doing this in combination with getting flu shots I never get sick. Maybe the odd sniffle but it seems to only be a day or two maybe. Sex is the BEST medicine and obviously preventative med too :D
 

Tugela

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Since exposure to germs is supposed to increase our immunity from illnesses, is it true that being a GFE escort would lead to a better defense against colds and flus?

I used to get at least one cold per year, but after a few years of being an escort, I *never* get sick (though this could be because of/in addition to the fact that as an escort I get more sleep and have less stress than I did before)

Any armchair physicians (or real physicians!) have any intel?
No. Because of the way your immune system works, you either have it or you don't. There is not a whole lot of middle ground.

The reason you are not getting sick now is because you are in the prime of your life health wise. I used to allways get sick (colds/flu) when I was a kid, but around the time I went to university untill my late 30s/early 40s I basically didn't get sick at all. After that it slowly increased again.
 

Tugela

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"Since the onset of the HIV/AIDS pandemic in 1981 cases of people with a natural immunity to HIV have been documented...This mutation likely evolved to provide added protection against smallpox...up to 1% of Northern Europeans (with Swedes being in the majority) followed by a similar percentage of Central Asians have this mutation, which if inherited from both parents provides them total immunity while another 10-15% of Northern Europeans and Central Asians having inherited the mutation from one parent exhibit greater resistance in lieu of complete immunity to HIV...in Africans, a small (number) also exhibit...natural immunity (possibly developed through exposure) to HIV/AIDS...to prevent HIV from penetrating based on an intensive study of 25 Nairobi prostitutes who...have "had sex with hundreds, perhaps thousands of HIV-positive cients" and shown no sign of contracting HIV...At the same time, up to 75% of newborn babies also possess natural immunity
(for reasons still not known) when exposed to HIV-positive blood. Although born with HIV antibodies - thus HIV-positive, newborns "usually lose HIV antibodies acquired from their HIV-positive mothers within 12-16 - maximum 18 months," in which their "spontaneous loss of [HIV] antibodies" without medical intervention is called seroreversion. "However, with the exception of very few instances, these infants are not HIV-infected" conclusive proof of a natural immunity to HIV.[1]"

http://ezinearticles.com/?HIV-AIDS---Immunity,-Eradication-and-Its-Disappearing-Victims&id=3871400
http://usgovernmentbenefits.org/hd/index.php?t=immune+to+aids
http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2011/05/16/apparent-immunity-gene-cures-bay-area-man-of-aids/
http://www.accessexcellence.org/WN/SUA04/natural_immunity_HIV.php
http://www.wired.com/medtech/health/news/2005/01/66198
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/evolution/library/10/4/l_104_06.html
http://www.medicalcareadvices.com/
The reason why Europeans have a much higher incidence of natural imminity is because there is a high incidence of a mutation in a protein used by HIV to infect cells. It has been suggested that this mutation was "enriched" in European populations by plagues which repeatedly ravaged Europe in the middle ages. Basically those with the mutation survived while many of those without it died, so the probabilty of the mutation being passed on to future generations increased over time. An example of the Darwinian concept of survival of the fittest at work.
 

Tugela

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Absolutely!

I think that if a SP works in her own clean incall, it's a much more sterile work environment than an office or workplace with dozens of employees or working in a place that 1,000's of the general public pass through.

Each person carries different germs and bacterias, so if a SP only sees a few clients per day and showers or at least washes her hands frequently, she is probably exposed to far less infectious disease (besides STI's) than the average person.

Eliminating stress from your life allows your body to invest more energy into a healthy immune system too.

:)
Being clean has nothing to do with it....if a virus is widespread in the community you are going to get infected no matter what you do.
 

Monet

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interesting theory....
but it is unlikely true...
Since exposure to germs is supposed to increase our immunity from illnesses, is it true that being a GFE escort would lead to a better defense against colds and flus?

I used to get at least one cold per year, but after a few years of being an escort, I *never* get sick (though this could be because of/in addition to the fact that as an escort I get more sleep and have less stress than I did before)

Any armchair physicians (or real physicians!) have any intel?
 

normisanas

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Since exposure to germs is supposed to increase our immunity from illnesses, is it true that being a GFE escort would lead to a better defense against colds and flus?

I used to get at least one cold per year, but after a few years of being an escort, I *never* get sick (though this could be because of/in addition to the fact that as an escort I get more sleep and have less stress than I did before)

Any armchair physicians (or real physicians!) have any intel?
I'm not an expert in these matters by any stretch of the imagination, but I do know something.

What you are suggesting is known as adaptive immunity. That exists, but in your situation as an escort, highly unlikely.

There are generally 2 things your immune system is fighting, bacteria and viruses. They are very different.

Bacteria are living cells very much like the cells in your body, but much simpler. Enzymes within the bacteria are chemical reactors that, when the bacteria come in contact with the cells in your body, can interact with those cells and "feed" the bacteria through chemical reactions. Simply put, the bacteria eats, grows, and splits (ie: multiplies). A bacteria is alive and is thus fragile because it needs a host to stay alive.

Viruses are very different. They are much much smaller (like a tenth smaller) than the cells in your body, so small that a regular microscope cannot see them. All a virus is, is an envelope of membrane and a coat of protein that surrounds genetic instructions in nucleic acid. It is not alive without a host, in fact, it remains dormant for a very long time. The enzymes in viruses do not carry out chemical reactions like in bacteria, instead, they inject the genetic instructions into a host cell in your body they've attached to. The host cell's enzymes carry out the instructions through chemical reactions the way bacteria would. Because viruses can stay dormant for a very long time without a host cell, they are hardy and can withstand a hazardous environment.

As a human being, your immune system is constantly being attacked by both bacteria and viruses. As an escort, you are more likely to come into bacteria in quantities that have any effect in places in your body that you do things without condoms - such as, hopefully, only your mouth. As for viruses, clients might have left them behind in your bed or furnishings, etc., and will remain dormant for a very long time - ie: weeks or months. Even washing your sheets, spraying down your furnishings with cleanser, etc., will not kill viruses.

A bacterial infection stands the most likely chance of immune adaptation without some form of external intervention as you would making yourself immune to a virus by getting a needle of antiviral medication. Orally, I doubt that foreign bacteria is likely to survive because the environment in your mouth is hostile to most bacteria except the oral bacteria of others - which usually is not hazardous anyways. So for this reason, talk of an immune adaptation to bacteria where oral sex is concerned is pointless. The only kind of immune adaption possible to bacteria in sex is the adaption your vagina or anus would have to foreign bacteria in large enough quantity, for instance, from having bareback sex. But since you're not having bareback sex, that is not worth discussing.

So that leaves us with viruses - and what about your adaptive immunity to that? There's nothing as a sex worker that would make you especially more immune to it, because human beings cannot really do anything to make their immune system adapt to it except usually by external intervention or some form of natural mutation. In fact, as an escort you are more prone to being attacked by viruses than most any other person unless we are talking about people who work in the medical field who see lots of people every day.

So if it is true that you think your immune system is better since you have been doing sex work, I would suggest that it has nothing to do with your body being able to increase its immunity due to more exposure. It is very much more likely due to:

a) being happy about getting sex

b) being more health conscious because you are interacting intimately with strangers

c) being more conscious about dirtiness in your environment, leading you to clean and wash more often, which reduces bacteria, which lightens the load to your immune system so that it can fight viruses

Does this make sense?


n.b: this should also provide an explanation that Volpina Vance was asking for.
 
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newatit

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There might be other circumstances at play. Clients are not likely to be in a sexy mood when sick or within a few days of being sick and wouldn't be visiting. SP's on the other hand are alone and do not see vast numbers of people in an enclosed environment. Exposure is limited. The times in my life for being ill were using public transport copiously. Locked up in a plane or bus with a sicky nearby.

Yes if you indulge someone who is infected, flu, cold, whatever unless immune you will likely get it.

So if the original question was to ascertain if GFE is a vaccine in a way, my answer is no way. I agree with the note above.
 
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Tugela

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Tulega, can you please explain further? I'm curious about this.
It's been a while, but this is the general picture IIRC.

There are cells in your body that produce a range of antibodies, which are proteins that can bind to to a variety of shapes. The range of antibodies is called your repertoire. Antibodies have a bit that binds to things, which is different for each one in your repertoire, and a second bit that is common on all of them. If the andibody binds to something the common bit becomes activated and can be recognized as such be other cells in your immune system, which in turn activates a range of other responses which (hopefully) will destroy whatever the antibody has bound to.

There is another mechanism in the immune system to deal with infections as well, that involves things called antigen presenting cells. It is a similar sort of concept, except that this time these cells chew up general cellular debris and present fragments of proteins from that on their surfaces. If the fragment is something that doesnt normally occur in your body it can be recognized by other cells called T-cells and trigger an immune response. As with antibodies, your body has a limited range of these cells.

If you are infected by a bacteria or a virus, those organisms have unique proteins on their surfaces. If you have an antibody in your repertoire that can bind to one of these proteins it will be recognized and destroyed. If you don't, well then the infection continues until you die. A similar sort of thing happens with the alternative mechanism.

That is what I mean by "you either have it or you don't". As long as you are healthy, have been exposed to the common infective agents and have appropriate components in your repertoire, you should not have too many problems.

There are other cells called B-cells that produce antibodies. When the corresponding antibody for one of these cells generates a "hit", the hit stimulates the B-cell to transform, reproduce and start pumping out masses of the corresponding antibody. Once you have a response to a particular antibody this new population of antibody producing cells sticks around for a long time and that is what gives you your long term immunity to re-infection.

When you are young you have not been exposed to anything so you get sick a lot. When you get very old your body starts to become less efficient in its response, so you once again start to become sick more frequently. You should be at your healthiest from young adulthood (late teens) to the onset on old age (late 30s). Keep in mind that too vigorous a response can be just as bad as too slow a response. That is what happened in the most recent flu pandemic, where most of the people who died were healthy young adults. It wasn't the flu that killed them, it was their powerful immune response that did it. It was a virus quite different to what they had been exposed to before, and it generated multiple strong hits, so those with the strongest immune systems were hit the hardest.

One of the things that can happen is that proteins normally produced in your body can be recognized as foreign. That leads to all the auto-immune diseases. Once those get going there is not much you can do to stop them short of nuking your immune system completely.

Another thing of interest is that because the cells in your immune system are very active and reproducing relatively fast, they are susceptible to the agents used to treat cancer (those generally work by killing cells that are growing rapidly). That is why you have to be very careful around people recieving chemo, because their immune systems are severely weakened.
 
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