Benjamin “Monty” Robinson - how did this guy ever become a RCMP officer?

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Cpl. Benjamin "Monty" Robinson has been found guilty of obstruction of justice in 2008 crash that killed Orion Hutchinson in Tsawwassen.
 

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blackcad

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Seems pretty excessive no....he only killed a man while drunk driving. :thumb:
He's getting what he deserves...there's no way he deserves to wear the uniform anymore. However.....what most people are seeming to forget is that the kid that was on the motorcycle, was extremely drunk and riding his bike at proven ridiculous speeds...it is impossible to make the claim the he "killed a man" (at least to prove it to the burden required) when looking at the coroner inquest.

It appears that the kid, killed himself, and the soon to be ex-mountie was drunk and only in the wrong place at the wrong time. The fact that he was drunk and driving...and tried to cover it up is what he was found guilty for...as it should be.

The kid's stupid decisions are what killed him. Excessive speed, while completely impaired on a high speed motorbike...not a very good combination.
Looking at the information, which is not all that well publicized as it is much more exciting news to crucify the cops and paint them as badly as possible, it looks like any normal sober person would have "killed him" if their vehicle was in the same situation. The cop's actions in making a left turn did result in the motorcycle slamming into the cop's vehicle, but it is impossible to say that a sober person would not have made the same turn, not expecting a motorcycle to be coming at that speed on a municipal road. MINIMUM speed estimates of the motorbike were calculated 64-96 km/hr (the range comes from different methods of calculating a minimum speed that the motorcycle was traveling...each valid....but the one that produced the highest MINIMUM speed...96 km/hr... is the one that is used in court)...which means that solid and guaranteed evidence is there to prove that the motorcycle was traveling a "minimum" of 96 km/hr but probably a fair bit faster....but the exact value above 96 km/hr cannot be proven in court beyond a reasonable doubt.

Justice has been doled correctly in this case...the cop will no longer be a cop and will have a criminal record for obstruction. If the cop would have stayed at the scene, he at worst, may have been found guilty of impaired driving (not impaired driving causing death)....and he would likely keep his job as long as he underwent rehabilitation for alcohol addiction...as it is now....a charge of obstruction will almost certainly cost him his job.
 

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He's getting what he deserves...there's no way he deserves to wear the uniform anymore. However.....what most people are seeming to forget is that the kid that was on the motorcycle, was extremely drunk and riding his bike at proven ridiculous speeds...it is impossible to make the claim the he "killed a man" (at least to prove it to the burden required) when looking at the coroner inquest.

It appears that the kid, killed himself, and the soon to be ex-mountie was drunk and only in the wrong place at the wrong time. The fact that he was drunk and driving...and tried to cover it up is what he was found guilty for...as it should be.

The kid's stupid decisions are what killed him. Excessive speed, while completely impaired on a high speed motorbike...not a very good combination.
Looking at the information, which is not all that well publicized as it is much more exciting news to crucify the cops and paint them as badly as possible, it looks like any normal sober person would have "killed him" if their vehicle was in the same situation. The cop's actions in making a left turn did result in the motorcycle slamming into the cop's vehicle, but it is impossible to say that a sober person would not have made the same turn, not expecting a motorcycle to be coming at that speed on a municipal road. MINIMUM speed estimates of the motorbike were calculated 64-96 km/hr (the range comes from different methods of calculating a minimum speed that the motorcycle was traveling...each valid....but the one that produced the highest MINIMUM speed...96 km/hr... is the one that is used in court)...which means that solid and guaranteed evidence is there to prove that the motorcycle was traveling a "minimum" of 96 km/hr but probably a fair bit faster....but the exact value above 96 km/hr cannot be proven in court beyond a reasonable doubt.

Justice has been doled correctly in this case...the cop will no longer be a cop and will have a criminal record for obstruction. If the cop would have stayed at the scene, he at worst, may have been found guilty of impaired driving (not impaired driving causing death)....and he would likely keep his job as long as he underwent rehabilitation for alcohol addiction...as it is now....a charge of obstruction will almost certainly cost him his job.
+1 Thanks for the impartial take...

Does anyone know the maximum sentence for a perjury charge?
 

uncleg

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+1 Thanks for the impartial take...

Does anyone know the maximum sentence for a perjury charge?

10 years maximum, but as a first time offender...?????????? Bet his lawyer will plead for no jail time because of the danger to his life if he is sent up the river.
 

DavidMR

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+1 Thanks for the impartial take...

Does anyone know the maximum sentence for a perjury charge?
Yes, I think it was a useful contribution. Robinson is facing a perjury charge for his testimony at Braidwood, ... I think. Al will know. Here, it's obstruction of justice, refering to his drinking after the crash.
 
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