Benjamin “Monty” Robinson - how did this guy ever become a RCMP officer?

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I've got a question or two for you. When do think it's OKay for Aboriginals or other minorities or women to have jobs in police and fire departments? Who do you think has a right to sue the police if they're injured during an arrest?
By the way, you answered my questions with two questions which I answered.

Now how about you do me the same courtesy.
 

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So I take it that as you only want to ask questions and not respond to mine or others here?

Then why is he?
This is standard procedure with all Police when on trial.

Same would apply if he were a teacher, health care provider, etc etc. It usually written into collective agreements.
 

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and let's not forget: on PAID leave with full benefits and pension for the PAST FOUR years......no where else do you get to deal with your "depression and history of family alcohol abuse" at home with full pay....being a role model for his children no doubt to continue the cycle
Absolute joke...this guy should be fired and not get a dime...he should do 15 years in jail, get raped and killed...
 

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So I take it that as you only want to ask questions and not respond to mine or others here?



This is standard procedure with all Police when on trial.

Same would apply if he were a teacher, health care provider, etc etc. It usually written into collective agreements.

It predates collective agreements, and as you know, the RCMP have no collective bargaining rights, so in there case there is no collective agreement.
 

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This morning in the Vancouver Sun there is an article on the difference between how men are treated and how women are treated in the RCMP.

The cost to the man of sexually harassing a subordinate = $4,000 (10 day suspension)
The cost to the woman who complained = she's fired
The message is clear.

http://www.vancouversun.com/life/Un...lice+with+boss+lawyer+says/6191759/story.html
Disgusting they used their own three "man" tribunal to decide her fate. So much for openness that the new RCMP commissioner was proposing moving forward.

This issue should have been tried by an independent court.
 

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Actually it isn't....happens all the time, the above case in point.
I have rarely heard of this kind of thing becoming public. Every employee in any organization involved in thei hiring and personnel process knows that the information they are dealing with is confidential and it would be a serious breach to divulge any of it.
 

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Every Lawyer, Prosecutor or Defense, knows how much veracity to place on the unsupported testimony of an RCMP officer. None. If their lips are moving, they are lying. Judges agree, which is why Robinson is standing trial for perjury.

Maybe Robinson has another trial pending for perjury before the Braidwood Inquiry, but in the present case he's charged with obstruction of justice, that is intentionally fouling the breathalyzer readings with additional alcohol.
 

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Maybe Robinson has another trial pending for perjury before the Braidwood Inquiry, but in the present case he's charged with obstruction of justice, that is intentionally fouling the breathalyzer readings with additional alcohol.
We already know this, as it's been in the news and it's common knowledge for those of us who are following this story...

What's the point are you trying to make? I might be dense, but I don't understand what you're trying to say, including the rest of your posts on this thread. Can you clarify your position on what you're trying to say?
 

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We already know this, as it's been in the news and it's common knowledge for those of us who are following this story...

What's the point are you trying to make? I might be dense, but I don't understand what you're trying to say, including the rest of your posts on this thread. Can you clarify your position on what you're trying to say?
No. Sorry.
Why is that not a surprise..........:rolleyes:
Ok, DavidMR won't clarify his position so I will fill in the dots as I see it.

He is against any type of violent behaviour by the Police Dept whether they are protecting other citizens or themselves. Any skateboarding nutbar may smash windows on a BC Transit bus and that's ok. Furthermore, in the event one of the VPD dogs bites the nutbar while the nutbar is resisting arrest it sounds like a good time to use public money to sue the VPD.

Correct so far?

Now in this thread DavidMR voiced his concern that a group of us (myself included) were racist because we brought up the issue that Monty is a native and may get a soft ride for killing a couple of people while on duty and while drunk driving. DavidMR then tried to skate the issue by bringing up the Basi and Virk issue of the BC Gov't paying their collective legal fees. Smoke screen didn't work did it David? :D

He will poke his nose up out of his hole and pose a few questions about us or our thoughts but will never commit to stating what he stands for on any issue. He is far too PC to stand up and state what he really thinks.

Are well all up to date on this guy now?
 

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I never said that, as you well know. Why do you make things up?
You were totally sympathetic to the boarder and you know it.

I take it the rest of what I posted is bang on.
 

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You were totally sympathetic to the boarder and you know it.

I take it the rest of what I posted is bang on.

I have no sympathy for what he did. I ride public transit frequently and believe the police should have proceeded with charges against him. Unfortunately, they were embarassed by the shocking photos of the dog bites and decided to drop them.

That, however, doesn't alter the fact that this guy has a right to sue for damages against the Crown, OK, all us taxpayers, if the injuries he suffered are going to result in lower earnings, suffering, etc. which is beyond the usual for an arrest. That case should be heard on its merits, and part of that will be his own behaviour and, as Al pointed out, whether or not he was intoxicated and how much. Maybe that's the reason his injuries from the dog were so bad.

But just dismissing this guy's civil case because he's a low wage worker is offensive to me. It's standard Vancouver poor bashing, a repulsive hangover from BC's Victorian era upbringing.
 

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I have no sympathy for what he did. I ride public transit frequently and believe the police should have proceeded with charges against him. Unfortunately, they were embarassed by the shocking photos of the dog bites and decided to drop them.

That, however, doesn't alter the fact that this guy has a right to sue for damages against the Crown, OK, all us taxpayers, if the injuries he suffered are going to result in lower earnings, suffering, etc. which is beyond the usual for an arrest. That case should be heard on its merits, and part of that will be his own behaviour and, as Al pointed out, whether or not he was intoxicated and how much. Maybe that's the reason his injuries from the dog were so bad.

But just dismissing this guy's civil case because he's a low wage worker is offensive to me. It's standard Vancouver poor bashing, a repulsive hangover from BC's Victorian era upbringing.
actually the boarder belongs in the riverview mental institute lockup for the criminally insane however the provincial budget is too tight so borderline cases like him are left to terrorize the dtes. vcp did what they thought they had to in order to get him off the streets for awhile and maybe point out to him the adviseability of taking his meds. time will tell if they made the right decision or not
 

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I have no sympathy for what he did. I ride public transit frequently and believe the police should have proceeded with charges against him. Unfortunately, they were embarassed by the shocking photos of the dog bites and decided to drop them.

That, however, doesn't alter the fact that this guy has a right to sue for damages against the Crown, OK, all us taxpayers, if the injuries he suffered are going to result in lower earnings, suffering, etc. which is beyond the usual for an arrest. That case should be heard on its merits, and part of that will be his own behaviour and, as Al pointed out, whether or not he was intoxicated and how much. Maybe that's the reason his injuries from the dog were so bad.

But just dismissing this guy's civil case because he's a low wage worker is offensive to me. It's standard Vancouver poor bashing, a repulsive hangover from BC's Victorian era upbringing.
I never dismissed his claim because of his being a "low wage worker". Find the post and I will eat 10 kg of crow and post pics.

I dismissed his claim because he was obviously acting in a very aggressive manor which would have been terrifying to the passengers on the bus. Hence my previous question to you "what if you were on that bus at the time of his nutbar meltdown"? How much sympathy would you have for him now?

We do not know what went down in the alleyway with the boarder, the dog and the VPD dog handler. My best guess is the boarder fought the dog and the dog responded in kind. The VPD officer let the dog do it until the boarder went into a submissive pose.

Let him go to trial and attempt to get tax payer's dollars for his wounds. I doubt many people would support paying off this guy for the way he behaved.
 
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Let him go to trial and attempt to get tax payer's dollars for his wounds. I doubt many people would support paying off this guy for the way he behaved.


If the court awards him compensation, then what? Your second sentence implies that public opinion should determine whether or not he gets any compensation, not a judge.
 

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