BBFS.........Wake up call again.

[bbfsdude]

hey deaaphro.. dont worry im not gonna call you since youre not very nice anyway you can barely hide your insult talking about my "spawn".. besides youre never gonna know anyhow if ever it is me who walks thru your door but my word is as good as gold and i dont lie. and anyhow i got a bunch of pooners who already pmd me with some bbfs contacts so im gonna be busy for the next while ... and 3 of u guys also pmd me saying did you do this girl im real worried yeh like whatever, reason why youre worried is cuz you were bare backing her yourself and you thot you were the only one!!!!!! see i told ya all thats the real reason you guys are so concerned about bbfs but anyway who cares its totally common.

 

[n2supersymmetry]

congrats dude, you have just increased your risk exponentially by sharing your contacts with other people who also do bbfs.
Now all it takes is one of those guys or gals catching something and you'll be along for the same ride.

 

[gravitas]

A few random responses to the posts in the thread

Wouldn't there also be a sigificant risk when doing DFK. saliva is also a bodily fluid

From what I've read no, saliva is not at pathway for HIV. Neither are tears or sweat.

I can't see much difference between BBFS and BBBJ as far as safety is concerned.... You are basically mixing body fluids in both.

I'd suggest that you either cite credible resources or let the acknowledged experts (i.e. healthnurse) respond. The following from avert.org
Although it is possible to become infected with HIV through oral sex, the risk of becoming infected in this way is much lower than the risk of infection via unprotected sexual intercourse with a man or woman.

When giving oral sex to a man (sucking or licking a man's penis) a person could become infected with HIV if infected semen got into any cuts, sores or receding gums a person might have in their mouth.

Giving oral sex to a woman (licking a woman's clitoris or vagina) is also considered relatively low risk. Transmission could take place if infected sexual fluids from a woman got into the mouth of her partner. The likelihood of infection occurring might be increased if there is menstrual blood involved or the woman is infected with another STD.

The likelihood of either a man or a woman becoming infected with HIV as a consequence of receiving oral sex is extremely low.

it was beetween consulting adults so why do you guys care so much eh.

Here's the thing from my POV. Stick you hand in one of those needle drop boxes, get nailed in the ass in a bathhouse or bareback fuck a smack addict I really don't care what you do. If you're an adult and you're choosing to be with another adult what happens between the two of you is your business. Personally, when I'm with a sexual partner where we're not monogamous I practice a level of safe sex that we're both comfortable with. If that means we use a condom for oral then so be it, if we're both comfortable sucking and licking without a safe then thats cool as well. But pro or civilian the one thing that remains constant is the fact I wrap my rascal when I go digging for gold. Likewise, albeit in a very different environment, regardless of their age, background, medical history or injury when I'm treating someone I follow the exact same strict protocol for barrier safety and handling sharps.

People like you scare me.

I'm disgusted by people like that but they don't scare me. If this wingnut is comfortable playing Russian roulette with his cock thats OK. The only thing I do begrudge is the fact its our tax dollars that are used to pay for this assholes treatment.

It's almost impossible to catch hepatitis from sexual intercourse.

You're very incorrect with that information. Hep A is easily transmitted through inadequate sanitary conditions (i.e. open sewage) or food washed with contaminated water. Hep B & C are both easily transmitted with casual sexual contact and more readily then HIV.

But there are vaccines for all forms of Hepatitis (A, B & C)

Sorry, but you're also incorrect. There are a number of single and combined vaccines for Hep A & B but there are none for Hep C.

 

[Very Veronica]

'scuse me?

all 12 that i did are all girls who are indeps and at mps.

If you're gonna say shit like this, name the names.

 

[gravitas]

I had forgotten that the Hep C vaccine isn't openly available yet, but it does exist.

Care to share its name, manufacturer, etc?

If you're gonna say shit like this, name the names.

Why does it matter? Wouldn't it make more sense to play safe with everyone you see and not try to establish a "who's fucked who" list? All thats going to happen if names get posted is a McCarthy-isq witch hunt and royal shit storm.

 

[lipsmacker]

Hilariouse to think an escort thinks she's any different

I have to respond Creole lady Marmalade and her decision not to judge a man for seeing street ladies

Did you know that your a Prostitute a HOOKER?

I challenge you to whatch a whore turn a trick anywhere in this world and her pussy will look like yours taste like yours and function like yours. Do you really think a Street Hooker is the concern. I would look in the mirror and remember your pussy is no different than every hookers in the world.

When the street whore decided to walk the street and you decided to place an ad instead do you thinks it's because your more special, smarter, better looking?I think not my dear do your homework your no more special, privileged or intelligent than all the whores in the world.

 

[Stew]

I think asbestos capes and asbestos underwear will be needed shortly when the flaming begins in response to the above post.

Stew

 

[scubadude]

I have to respond Creole lady Marmalade and her decision not to judge a man for seeing street ladies

Did you know that your a Prostitute a HOOKER?

I challenge you to whatch a whore turn a trick anywhere in this world and her pussy will look like yours taste like yours and function like yours. Do you really think a Street Hooker is the concern. I would look in the mirror and remember your pussy is no different than every hookers in the world.

When the street whore decided to walk the street and you decided to place an ad instead do you thinks it's because your more special, smarter, better looking?I think not my dear do your homework your no more special, privileged or intelligent than all the whores in the world.

Geez! Looks like this thread is bringing out all types. Anyone else notice that those that have been posting the most inflamatory remarks seemed to have just joined this forum recently?

 

[gravitas]

I have to respond Creole lady Marmalad.....I would look in the mirror and remember your pussy is no different than every hookers in the world

While I'm not a fan of the jam princess and her self-righteous tone I think you've gone just a tad too far with your comments. I'll pour a scotch and wait for the crap to hit blower.


Based on a PM received I checked some of my medical texts and need to correct/clarify a previous comment

Hep B & C are both easily transmitted with casual sexual contact and more readily then HIV.

I stand corrected that Hep C is more akin to HIV when it comes to transmission given its a blood born pathogen vs. Hep B which in addition to being hematic can also be found in saliva, feces, urine, vaginal and seminal fluid. However relative to HIV and Hep C, Hep B is far easier to transmit given its concentration (HIV 50 - 100 virus particles/ml blood compared to HBV 1,000,000 - 1,000,000,000 particles/ml blood) and that the Hep B virus can live outside a human host (on both porous and solid surfaces) for up to 7 days where as HIV is only virulent for hours.

 

[schizo_man]

I'm not sure why I keep being challenged on this issue but I'm not guessing. Fact is it is extremely hard to get Hep C through normal sexual intercourse.


And for the record there is no Hep C vaccine even close to being made available that I'm aware of. I'd like a reference to this if you could be so kind.

[up] Can HCV be spread by sexual activity?
Yes, but this does not occur very often. See section below on counseling for more information on hepatitis C and sexual activity.

[up] Can HCV be spread by oral sex?
There is no evidence that HCV has been spread by oral sex. See section on counseling for more information on hepatitis C and sexual activity.

ref. http://www.cdc.gov/ncidod/diseases/hepatitis/c/faq.htm#3b

 

[schizo_man]

How could a person have gotten hepatitis C?
HCV is spread primarily by direct contact with human blood. For example, you may have gotten infected with HCV if:

* you ever injected street drugs, as the needles and/or other drug "works" used to prepare or inject the drug(s) may have had someone else's blood that contained HCV on them.
* you received blood, blood products, or solid organs from a donor whose blood contained HCV.
* you were ever on long-term kidney dialysis as you may have unknowingly shared supplies/equipment that had someone else's blood on them.
* you were ever a healthcare worker and had frequent contact with blood on the job, especially accidental needlesticks.
* your mother had hepatitis C at the time she gave birth to you. During the birth her blood may have gotten into your body.
* you ever had sex with a person infected with HCV.
* you lived with someone who was infected with HCV and shared items such as razors or toothbrushes that might have had his/her blood on them.

you don't think that there may be blood products in the vagina or in your sperm? If there is any tearing, etc. there will be blood. Even if the chance is very remote, WHY TAKE THE RISK? Geez people just use your heads. The same people who don't use precautions because they don't think that they need it are the same people that cry out "why me" when they contract the diseases that they could have avoided and expect the rest of us to pay for your treatment. I say FUCK YOU if you are stupid enough to play without safety in mind, take the consequences.

 

[Audrey]

I have to respond Creole lady Marmalade and her decision not to judge a man for seeing street ladies

Did you know that your a Prostitute a HOOKER?

I challenge you to whatch a whore turn a trick anywhere in this world and her pussy will look like yours taste like yours and function like yours. Do you really think a Street Hooker is the concern. I would look in the mirror and remember your pussy is no different than every hookers in the world.

When the street whore decided to walk the street and you decided to place an ad instead do you thinks it's because your more special, smarter, better looking?I think not my dear do your homework your no more special, privileged or intelligent than all the whores in the world.

I think this is the first time that I will use the word fuck in my post.

I can't fucking believe what I just read

There's a big Fucking difference, IMO between a SW & an SP. A SW is someone who is usually turned away from an agency because they are either too strung out, or didn't make the grade in apperance & attitude.

There's a big differance between selling your body or pussy (as you call it) for $40-$60 as opposed to an agency/indy rate.

Speaking for myself, I wouldn't sell my services for less than advertised because I'm desperate. I'd rather work at McDonalds!

I'd rather have fewer good clients & make less, than a ton of not so good ones & make more. This is the differance!.

 

[volks]

I think this is the first time that I will use the word fuck in my post.

I can't fucking believe what I just read

There's a big Fucking difference, IMO between a SW & an SP. A SW is someone who is usually turned away from an agency because they are either too strung out, or didn't make the grade in apperance & attitude.

There's a big differance between selling your body or pussy (as you call it) for $40-$60 as opposed to an agency/indy rate.

Speaking for myself, I wouldn't sell my services for less than advertised because I'm desperate. I'd rather work at McDonalds!

I'd rather have fewer good clients & make less, than a ton of not so good ones & make more. This is the differance!.

Yes! Well said Audrey, and I would much rather pay more, knowing I'm one of those few select clients and it is safe for both parties involved. There is no way I would run the risk of contracting something and passing it on to future relationships. The difference between an addicted, sickly SW and a healthy, conscientious SP is huge and I certainly have no trouble holding out for the latter.

Thanks for speaking up girl.

volks.

 

[jakey_edwards]

Aussie cheerleaders told to cover up midriffs

I came across an article pertaining to some cheerleaders being asked to cover their midriffs. It can't take long for that brilliant strategy to kick in and resolve the problem of obese teens and their low self esteem. Hiding from the facts usually helps solve any problem.

Similarly, the BBFS issue impacts us all. Most of us tend to operate within our risk tolerance thresholds. And being informed goes a long way towards being safe. I think MassageLady had a point when she asked if hobbyist or sp would see someone if they knew for a fact that the other person was HIV positive. I know I would not.

By that same token, I would also prefer not to see someone who offers BBFS. While I never have or will participate in BBFS with anyone, I would prefer not to have ANY contact with such a provider. I'm sure other hobbyist stay away from providers who offer BBBJs. Again it boils down to what each of us is comfortable with. The important thing is to have reliable information to make the choice.

I think we reduce the effectiveness of PERB when we censor information such as who provides BBFS. While unequivocally not promoting the practice, I think forcing the issue underground only makes it risky for all concerned. Allowing an open dialogue will at least help us know who offers what and lets us have the choice of whom we chose to see or not. After all that is the purpose of the board - sharing information - no?

Just my two cents.

Jake

P.S. Here's the article about the cheerleaders. Remember to play safe.

http://msn.foxsports.com/other/story/5508246

 

[lipsmacker]

Poor Delusionsinal Audry

You think you have choices who you see ?I beg to differ do you know how to add ?

Ask any $1000 hooker what her rates were when she first started out .
$1000 hooker knows where she comes from and has no problem telling you that.
A street walker can go home in 2 hours with $500 or more no overhead and maybe she fucks 1 or two keeps it all

Look at an Escort charging a $1000 for a night unlimited fucking Puleeze

Who is more intelligent?

You can turn away who you want? Good for you but I doubt it since you work in a brothel .

It is a myth that Street Hookers are drug addicted with no choices
The longer you chose to believe your pussy is so much better than a drug addicted hooker the "clients" (you supposedly chose to turn away) just fucked 5 of your regulars.

Then your putting on a spring special and undercutting your self and ending up selling your pussy at the same price she does.Exept she already paid her mortgage cause you were in a bad mood that week she even has some money to spare and she's deciding what private school to put her kids into and Where should she put that extra in A revolving mutual fund or a rrsp.

Marketing is marketing truth is truth do your math . I guess you still count on your fingers . I haven't seen too many Street Hookers with a calculator lately.

If you really want to know about whoring and making money or as you put it selling your time look at the whores who have come before you .

But I guess this gives you too much information and that's the great thing about street whores they are invisible, you turn away when you see them, believing how sad there pathetic lives are. These girls count on your pity cause when your looking down and crying and judging them there busy getting busy with your clients

 

[Audrey]

That was good for a laugh

First of all my name is spelt Audrey not Audry.

Second of all I am an Indy. I don't work in a brothel. I don't condsider girls who work in agencies to work in a brothel either. The girls set their own limits, just like Indy's do.

Thirdly, I did start off in an agency, true, but I was the girl with the most restrictions because I wasn't willing to give more service for what I got.

You know what, I was still one of the busiest girls in the agency. Why?. because I have class, because I have a brain & because of my looks.

I put my looks last because if I didn't have the class & the brains I wouldn't be as special. Does this mean that I think myself more special than everyone else?. Hell no!

You talk about me being able to add, you don't even know my rates for overnights or my rates period, so how can you even say this bs to me.

As for the SW's who have suposedly f***cked my regulars, sure, it could be true, but clients who seek out class usually do not seek out someone with less class.

As for spring specials or any kind of special, if you had actually read my post, you would see that I said I would rather work at McDonalds than have to sell my services for less. I also said I'd rather have less business but better clients, than more business with not so good clients.

Of course there were greater ones before me, there are now & will be in the future. Your point is?????

Why would I frown on too much information?. The smartest people are the ones who admit that they don't know everything.

I hope you're finished, cause all you're doing is making yourself look like an ass.

You think you have choices who you see ?I beg to differ do you know how to add ?

Ask any $1000 hooker what her rates were when she first started out .
$1000 hooker knows where she comes from and has no problem telling you that.
A street walker can go home in 2 hours with $500 or more no overhead and maybe she fucks 1 or two keeps it all

Look at an Escort charging a $1000 for a night unlimited fucking Puleeze

Who is more intelligent?

You can turn away who you want? Good for you but I doubt it since you work in a brothel .

It is a myth that Street Hookers are drug addicted with no choices
The longer you chose to believe your pussy is so much better than a drug addicted hooker the "clients" (you supposedly chose to turn away) just fucked 5 of your regulars.

Then your putting on a spring special and undercutting your self and ending up selling your pussy at the same price she does.Exept she already paid her mortgage cause you were in a bad mood that week she even has some money to spare and she's deciding what private school to put her kids into and Where should she put that extra in A revolving mutual fund or a rrsp.

Marketing is marketing truth is truth do your math . I guess you still count on your fingers . I haven't seen too many Street Hookers with a calculator lately.

If you really want to know about whoring and making money or as you put it selling your time look at the whores who have come before you .

But I guess this gives you too much information and that's the great thing about street whores they are invisible, you turn away when you see them, believing how sad there pathetic lives are. These girls count on your pity cause when your looking down and crying and judging them there busy getting busy with your clients

 

[nyx]

Spawn...

I do not think that word means what you think it means...

Definition

Not that this point is really all that important....

.......

Here's what's on the menu for you BBFS fun seekers:

This is yummy...
Genital Warts

Some more treats...
Chlamydia

How about a dose of this in your throat, for when you kiss your kids goodnight
Gonorrhea

This is a party favourite
Syphilis

Give your fucking head a shake. To sit here watching you take pride in your actions is mind boggling to me. You are a threat to humanity. You and any pooner out there who partakes in this activity are a danger and a public menace. You need to be shunned by every SP out there, each of whom is threatened by your actions.

Girls, you have the power to change this. If you all agree to refuse service to clients who seek unprotected sexual services, then these people would stop demanding that service, or at least know that they can not obtain it from you. I shudder to think of where they would seek it out though...

You know what I would love to see... that everyone involved in the hobby has this understood code of conduct that protects and preserves the integrity of this pastime. There are a lot of classy and beautiful ladies out there who do a lot of good through the services they provide. There are a lot of hobbyists out there who are respectable and decent men who adore and value the women who provide these services. I would want both parties involved to be healthy and safe. I want the ladies to be vibrant, healthy, amazing and full of spirit. I want the guys to be healthy kind, giving and respectful.

I would want to protect all of this from the filth you inject into it.

Sincerely,
Nyx

 

[nyx]

One more thing...

hey deaaphro.. dont worry im not gonna call you since youre not very nice anyway...

By the way, Dea is indeed a very nice lady.

 

[Anna]

whats bbfs?

 

[shak]

whats bbfs?

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