BBFS.........Wake up call again.

[Hollybaby]

eek!

"When I meet an SP I ask what their views are on safety, health etc. This can be annoying but it at least gives me an idea of what the severity of risk is"

No no! This isn't annoying at all! I love it when a client asks about safety. It shows that he's smart and cares about it as much as I do.

Let's see..someone asked how often these requests happen..Well, I've been doing this for 6 months, and only had one request for BBFS, which I turned down of course.

I've had about 5 requests for BBBJs, and turned those down as well. Two of the guys out of those 5 were rather rude about accepting that I wouldn't do that. One was really pushy and asked me twice more if I would do it. He offered me more money. I said no, and if he asked again I would have left, but he didn't ask again. The other was less rude, but he just sighed loudly and said it doesn't feel as good. Well for goodness sake, if it's THAT important, you should ask BEFORE seeing an SP is she offers the service you're looking for! (I mean, I wouldn't pay for something without knowing what I would be getting..)

Wow, I'm really surprised to hear how many people have tried to slip off the condom!! I've never had that happen.

Yeah..there's no amount of money that could make me do those things. So what if I have a 100 million dollars if I'm left with some incurable disease???

 

[neo-matrix]

good for you Holly, glad to see one of my favourite gals is playin it safe

 

[georgebushmoron]

My SP-GF had a guy who slipped the condom off and penetrated her bare in February. This is while he was on top of her too... he snuck his hand down there and slipped it off somehow, I can't imagine how.... and the condom wound up inside her pussy and she didn't even feel it. He went in and she thought something was wrong, reached down there and did not feel the condom. Immediately she yelled at him and he withdrew.

It can happen... and what boggles my mind is the guys who not only try BBFS, but are stupid enough to try to slip off the condom during sex. Of course the SP will find out! And at that point, the guy will have some explaining to do and a very angry girl yelling at him. How can that be worth it? What's in these guys' heads?

The lesson here for the SP is to never trust the customer, no matter how well you think you know him or how many times you've seen him. Never underestimate the cleverness used by these guys to trick you!

 

[maverick73]

My SP-GF had a guy who slipped the condom off and penetrated her bare in February. This is while he was on top of her too... he snuck his hand down there and slipped it off somehow, I can't imagine how.... and the condom wound up inside her pussy and she didn't even feel it. He went in and she thought something was wrong, reached down there and did not feel the condom. Immediately she yelled at him and he withdrew.

Hope u both got tested after that fiasco.

 

[maverick73]

So what if I have a 100 million dollars if I'm left with some incurable disease???

Well, that's better than having the incurable disease and NOT having 100 million .

At least that 100 million will buy you the best medical attention money can buy and prolong and increase the quality of life until you croak... or maybe even prolong your life long enough that a cure is found! If you're gonna go, might as well go big!

(I'm kidding of course... well kind of )

 

[hargow]

fear

i respect a lot of the things i am reading on this thread, namely that most everyone feels that BBFS outside of a committed relatoinship is deeply dangerous. like most everyone, i've engaged in BBFS with nearly every single girl i've been with, except for the SP's. the SP's i've of course NOT engaged in BBFS with ANY of them, nor would i try, offer, ask, or expect it, and frankly i'd be horrified if it were offered.

i think that the most common sentiment and feeling regarding this issue is one of fear, as it should be. it's frightening thinking that there are people out there engaging in this with SP's. however, i think that the notion that it's going to be a widespread thing and that people are going to start expecting it is ludicrous. i, for one, would immediately cease pooning if all the SP's in vancouver were practicing BBFS. i've gone years before without having sex, like at the end of a dying relationship that i was very committed to, and i could do it again if i had to.

from what i have read on this thread, most everyone feels the same way. granted, these are just the people who are writing, and there might be an army of crazy pooners and SP's out there with a deathwish, but to hell with them. we're the community majority by far, and they're certainly the minority. i think it's pretty clear that most guys writing on this board do NOT want to engage in BBFS with SP's.

i certainly agree with what GBM said that the SP's most likely to engage in this are the drug-addicted ones. while drug addiction is widespread in all walks of life, it doesn't take a genius to figure out the kinds who are much more likely to be druggies.

as long as people keep having positive conversations about this type of thing, it will give us all a reminder about how careful we need to be. it seems evident that the biggest risk is for the ladies, as guys can generally tell if a condom is on. so, be careful, and be assertive, as you have been in the past. for most people, no amount of money will compensate for an otherwise avoidable terminal illness. the simple answer for those who request it is "no and goodbye."

somebody mentioned a network for SP's regarding safe or unsafe clients. i think that SP's asking for referrals is a good idea, as well as having some kind of list of people who are nuts and ask for things like BBFS or try anything shady. you ladies should get organized with that. if i were an SP, i'd require photo ID before seeing my client. perhaps that would turn a lot of guys off, but it's your life.

 

[JustAGuy]

... if i were an SP, i'd require photo ID before seeing my client. perhaps that would turn a lot of guys off, but it's your life.

Photo ID wouldn't be a problem for me at all. 98% of the people in my life know I engage in this hobby and I have no concern about the other 2% finding out. But this isn't a feasible idea for most pooners for a variety of reasons. Any SP insisting upon it would very likely see her income shrink substantially as pooners would flock to SPs that hadn't instigated such a requirement.

 

[necko]

This whole thing makes u wonder about the sp's I've seen, what do they do with thear SO's, I mean whose clean and whose not.?? Who can You trust. Do sp's have there SO"s tested, Can HIV be transfered by kissing , people talk about salvia and BBBJ why not kissing? It just makes me wonder?

 

[bbfsdude]

wow u guys are so full of yourslefs! first of all all my posts got nixed watsup with that eh? talk about freedom of speach! its just talk so why delete it. and boy do i have a surprise for you... its not drug addicted ones who do bbfs, all 12 that i did are all girls who are indeps and at mps. and another thing i didnt use tricks niether, like pulling off the rubber when the girls wasnt looking, it was beetween consulting adults so why do you guys care so much eh. youre all just jealous and probably bare backing some sp yourslef and you dont want word to get out in case thats the one youre doing. thats the real real reason!!!! and gimme a break like the girl isnt doing lots of other guys the same way or will be soon. anyhow i know all the risks its been gone over a gazillion times so dont bother with it and frankly i never caught nothing in years.

 

[FuZzYknUckLeS]

wow u guys are so full of yourslefs! first of all all my posts got nixed watsup with that eh? talk about freedom of speach! its just talk so why delete it. and boy do i have a surprise for you... its not drug addicted ones who do bbfs, all 12 that i did are all girls who are indeps and at mps. and another thing i didnt use tricks niether, like pulling off the rubber when the girls wasnt looking, it was beetween consulting adults so why do you guys care so much eh. youre all just jealous and probably bare backing some sp yourslef and you dont want word to get out in case thats the one youre doing. thats the real real reason!!!! and gimme a break like the girl isnt doing lots of other guys the same way or will be soon. anyhow i know all the risks its been gone over a gazillion times so dont bother with it and frankly i never caught nothing in years.

People like you scare me.
And who in fuck said it was ever about you catching anything?
Not sure there'd be too many sympathizers if that did, however, become the case.

 

[Maury Beniowski]

I also had a client once who tried to slip the condom off when switching to doggie.

There you have it. You were alert enough to catch this sleight-of-hand. Many don't...

Many here approach the debate from the woman's point of view. IOW, she offers the service.

How blind it is to point the finger in her direction.

For the man, it is so easy to make an adjustment or a shift in doggie.

The condom doesn't even have to be removed, just slipped off and pushed in...

Double jeopardy!

 

[IfUCare]

this is not a public board, the mods can do whatever they please. They can ban you if they felt like it,much less just deleting your post. However, you can say what you want. Most likely you dreamt most of this up, most SP aren't stupid, and they know they can make more money in the long run if they didn't BB every tom,dick, and harry out there. Or, you could be just an ass using scare tactic so people don't poon. If it's true, it's your life if you want to play russian roulette, then be my guest. Honestly, don't be so selfish, your pathetic life isn't the only one at risk.

 

[n2supersymmetry]

wow u guys are so full of yourslefs! first of all all my posts got nixed watsup with that eh? talk about freedom of speach! its just talk so why delete it. and boy do i have a surprise for you... its not drug addicted ones who do bbfs, all 12 that i did are all girls who are indeps and at mps. and another thing i didnt use tricks niether, like pulling off the rubber when the girls wasnt looking, it was beetween consulting adults so why do you guys care so much eh. youre all just jealous and probably bare backing some sp yourslef and you dont want word to get out in case thats the one youre doing. thats the real real reason!!!! and gimme a break like the girl isnt doing lots of other guys the same way or will be soon. anyhow i know all the risks its been gone over a gazillion times so dont bother with it and frankly i never caught nothing in years.

Dude you can do whatever you want. Obviously your risk tolerance is a lot higher than the people on this board. Right outta this galaxy in fact.
Just don't expect a lot of sympathy or support for what you are doing.
Yeah you are right ... we are all jealous .... of the fact you manage to survive this long without catching anything. I weep for your inevitable unplanned progeny.

 

[Quarter Mile'r]

Man oh Man !!!

Interesting thread say wot !!

At least with the law of averages in my favour with protected FS I won't
be having to engage in a possible life long dillegence of life savings drugs
or the lesser matter of having to treat curable ones I hope !!

............QM'r

 

[nowayjose]

anyhow i know all the risks its been gone over a gazillion times so dont bother with it and frankly i never caught nothing in years.

Famous last words ... or likely to be anyway.

His epitaph can be "His posts were very entertaining."

It's been a while since I wrote a limerick so:

It's the story of BBFSDude
who thought using a cover was rude
He thought he would be
forever disese free
In the end he was totaly screwed!

 

[schizo_man]

mind you, would a person with his mindset ever do the responsible thing and go get tested regularily?

 

[DeaAphrodite]

wow u guys are so full of yourslefs! first of all all my posts got nixed watsup with that eh? talk about freedom of speach! its just talk so why delete it. and boy do i have a surprise for you... its not drug addicted ones who do bbfs, all 12 that i did are all girls who are indeps and at mps. and another thing i didnt use tricks niether, like pulling off the rubber when the girls wasnt looking, it was beetween consulting adults so why do you guys care so much eh. youre all just jealous and probably bare backing some sp yourslef and you dont want word to get out in case thats the one youre doing. thats the real real reason!!!! and gimme a break like the girl isnt doing lots of other guys the same way or will be soon. anyhow i know all the risks its been gone over a gazillion times so dont bother with it and frankly i never caught nothing in years.

BBFSDude,

With all due respect, sir, please do not ever call me. I do not want your business, or anything else you might have... bad attitude, lack of respect, or any potential health issues (that you may or may not be cognizant of), not to mention your spawn.

It's ok, no need to reply with "don't worry baby, I WON'T". I realize it is unlikely that you would request my company, since I do not provide the services you are looking for. However, since this is a discussion forum, I am 'discussing' my personal opinions on the matter.

Sincerely,
A Working Lady

 

[Creole Lady Marmalade]

This thread shows what little we all know about the people who walk through the door and pay for services from an SP. YA JUST DON'T KNOW WHO ANYONE HAS BEEN SCREWING!!! So why not take the extra precaution. I don't refuse to see clients who have had seen SWs or had unprotected sex elsewhere because those are examples of things I have no way of proving they did/didn't. I cover up, I stop the chance of infecting the clients I see.

By covering up you stop an opportunity for a potential outbreak of whatever to spread. Unfortunately, those words the client (pro unprotected sex of all sorts) tell you, however convincing, mean nothing to them when they hand you money and should mean nothing to you because exactly how many other SPs they've said the same thing to? YOU JUST DON"T KNOW.

I've been offered a sizable amount of money to do BB-- and refused. I'm a little suspicious of anyone offering a large sum of money for a service I don't provide, what are they trying to get rid of?

 

[scubadude]

wow u guys are so full of yourslefs! first of all all my posts got nixed watsup with that eh? talk about freedom of speach! its just talk so why delete it. and boy do i have a surprise for you... its not drug addicted ones who do bbfs, all 12 that i did are all girls who are indeps and at mps. and another thing i didnt use tricks niether, like pulling off the rubber when the girls wasnt looking, it was beetween consulting adults so why do you guys care so much eh. youre all just jealous and probably bare backing some sp yourslef and you dont want word to get out in case thats the one youre doing. thats the real real reason!!!! and gimme a break like the girl isnt doing lots of other guys the same way or will be soon. anyhow i know all the risks its been gone over a gazillion times so dont bother with it and frankly i never caught nothing in years.

Hey BBFSdude,

Something tells me that you're posts are more for shock value than to sincerely express a point of view. Sure, I think we all know that there are probably more occurances of BBFS happening out there than we care to admit, but I tend to think that it's more the exception than the rule.

There are those that take responsibility for there safety, and to a certain degree, the safety of their partner. Statistically, the SP has more risk than the client when it comes to BBFS and has the final say as to whether things will be done responsibly. For those of us on this forum, both SP and Pooner, we have a fairly good sense of how safe certain practicioners are and govern ourselves accordingly.

Instead of looking at what you have pulled off with 12 SP's, you may want to think long and hard about the potential ramifications of your actions.

 

[JustAGuy]

Hey BBFSdude, ....... Instead of looking at what you have pulled off with 12 SP's, you may want to think long and hard about the potential ramifications of your actions.

Judging by the posts of BBFSdude, I would say the possibility of this happening are slightly less than the possibility of my cat spending tomorrow thinking long and hard about the origins of the universe.