Bbbj vs dfk

phreak

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Sometimes I encounter SPs who do BBBJ without any hesitation, but not DFK. I'm just wondering if there is any logical explanation for this? For me it looks like being scared of getting a ticket for running red light after committing armed robbery. :)
 

phreak

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It's amazing how many men don't think to brush their teeth or chew gum... a penis doesn't have bad breath, and that's about all I can say about it at this time lol.
I'm not talking about the extreme case you've mentioned. I always brush my teeth and chew gum before visiting an SP. I can assure you my breath smells better than the breath of some SPs which may smell like cigarette smoke or recent lunch. :)

So those SP's I've mentioned likely did BBBJ, but not DFK due to some other considerations.
 

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I'm not talking about the extreme case you've mentioned. I always brush my teeth and chew gum before visiting an SP. I can assure you my breath smells better than the breath of some SPs which may smell like cigarette smoke or recent lunch. :)

So those SP's I've mentioned likely did BBBJ, but not DFK due to some other considerations.
Well I knew one SP years ago (a nice lady in her early 30s at the time) who would provide pretty much the entire menu (FS covered, of course) ... but wouldn't ever touch lips at all, even in a brief social peck. She considered kissing to be very personally intimate and said: "I save that for my husband"...

And in a similar vein, I knew several others (also back in the 1990s when I was very 'active') who were much the same - at least until they had met you a few times. (Another said she didn't kiss 'until the third visit'...) On the other hand, I found that once those ladies got to know me as a regular, they warmed up - to the point where the brief greeting hug sometimes ended up being a session of 10 to 15 minutes of intense kissing before any clothes came off.

I personally suspect that many of the SPs who puzzle you by their willingness to do BBBJ but not DFK - or maybe even anything more than brief pecks that don't even qualify as LFK - probably feel the same way.

I also feel that that is one of the things that is very much the lady's choice in an encounter ... always.
 

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i personally think that some ladies believe it to be much more PERSONAL & Intimate than BBBJ. There are alot of SP's (myself included) that do things in their personal sex life that they dont do in their work sex life & vice versa. You have to have alittle seperation from work & personal.. no matter if you LOVE your job or not, its all in the sake of keeping yourself sane by having your own boundaries & limitations.
 

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i personally think that some ladies believe it to be much more PERSONAL & Intimate than BBBJ. There are alot of SP's (myself included) that do things in their personal sex life that they dont do in their work sex life & vice versa. You have to have alittle seperation from work & personal.. no matter if you LOVE your job or not, its all in the sake of keeping yourself sane by having your own boundaries & limitations.
This all reminds me of a comment porn star Asia Carrera made shortly after she got married while still making films. Someone asked her what her favourite sex position was when she was off-set and with her husband. She replied: "Missionary position, in bed, under the covers. And with the lights off, whenever he lets me get away with that." She said it jokingly, but that was probably the only situation she had never ever been filmed in while making a porn movie.
 

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I think that is part of it, I mean a blow job or bbbj is part of the job,

Kissing and such could cross the line into intimacy and personal. and yes, bad breath and dental issues may play a role.
 

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There's nothing worse than a bad kisser. All other problems such as hygiene can be fixed, a bad kisser really can't be fixed like that.

Also some guys think it's ok to greet you with a tongue down your throat, that's not how we introduce ourselves where I come from!

Still OTHER guys think it's ok to latch onto her face and stay there for the entire time, only breaking to mouth breathe on her face just inches from her mouth. I like to not breathe in your hot breath sometimes, sometimes I want my own face-space!

The main reason I put an age restriction (no one over 60) on my site was because I found that those gents were the most likely to stick their tongue down my face and not remove it for the entire hour.

Dfk is 100% ymmv with me. If you start of light and as things progress, move to some dfk then you'll be fine with me. If you shove your slippery eel tongue down to my tonsils the second you get through the door then you probs won't get great mileage for me.

I could "suck it up" and "deal with it", but that would quickly sour me and I'm trying to not become soured so I can continue to provide the service that I really enjoy!

If you think this sounds like bitching, think about how you would feel in our shoes.


hahahahaha :pound: ... I was simply going to say "there's nothing worse than kissing someone who wants to be overtly passionate", but you took the words right out of my mouth.

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phreak

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That's hilarious... I can help imagining going on a first date with a girl who readily sucks my cock, but refuses to kiss me because she is not ready yet for intimacy. :)
 

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The main reason I put an age restriction (no one over 60) on my site was because I found that those gents were the most likely to stick their tongue down my face and not remove it for the entire hour.
That did not paint a pretty picture. I can only imagine how rampant PTSD must be amongst women in the industry.
 

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This all reminds me of a comment porn star Asia Carrera made shortly after she got married while still making films. Someone asked her what her favourite sex position was when she was off-set and with her husband. She replied: "Missionary position, in bed, under the covers. And with the lights off, whenever he lets me get away with that." She said it jokingly, but that was probably the only situation she had never ever been filmed in while making a porn movie.
I like that! Like the formidable Miss Mel, DFK is YMMV here too..Now, I like kissing. A lot. Light kisses, deep kisses...but PLEASE, for the love of God, brush your teeth, use gum or mouthwash and have a glass of water first (think it's bad when your own tongue is dry? Try having someone else's dry tongue introduced to your mouth! Yukky!)

As for the intimacy of the act: personally, the intimacy I save for my partner is that the biggest one I can think of.

He gets to use my real name.
 

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As with most things, kissing with a lot girls is YMMV. You may have the most hygienic mouth across the land, but that doesn't mean the lady is obligated to accept your slippery tongue in a game of tonsil tennis. Personally, I love bbbj, but I usually nix dfk as a lot of people don't do it the way I like, so it makes me uncomfortable and squeamish. I'd rather not provide one service that makes me feel awkward so I can provide my best service in other areas.

If dfk is something you're really looking for, just be sure to ask the lady her thoughts on it before booking.
 

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I didn't put too much thought into it if an SP doesn't do DFK or even LFK until I started reading this thread. I try to look at things in terms of the whole experience without breaking it down to DFK, LFK, BBBJ, DATY etc etc.

I am very orally inclined and when I meet someone who will kiss very erotically i have an oh wow moment, this is nice. Love a woman who really likes to kiss. Not sure what you call it but when they will suck on my lower lip while kissing me and I return the favour. So friken hot!

On reflection, I do tend to repeat with some ladies who are really great kissers. This is an interesting thread because it has made me reflect upon whom I've seen and whether or not they like to kiss or not.

Then there is the paradox of say an SP who does not partake in DFK or LFK but will sit upon my willing mouth and may either grind their lady bits against me or lightly run their labia over my tongue encouraging me to basically DFK them down below. This is probably as intimate as one could get with a woman and IMHO I have seen a number that really enjoy this; yet they may not even LFK.

Then there are the goddesses who really enjoy giving BBBJ. I can always tell because some will get very wet while doing it which is a huge turn on for me too. In my own not so scientific research ;) the lady's who will kiss very passionately are odds on favourites to provide outstanding BBBJ's too. You know the slurping, BLS, gagging, giving great eye contact and best of all driving to BBB to almost popping down their throats then backing off at the exact right time only to continue.

Ok enough, shower time :pound:
 

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The reason I no longer have a menu is because those who look at a session as a list of acronyms are the type I have no desire to see. I find it ruins all mood, there's no chemistry and they guy actually feels mechanical!

Wish they all looked at it the way you do sir!

Daty is intimate, but I've found very few guys who aren't at least OK at it. I've only met one that I almost told to stop, but I just didn't have the heart to. Shortly before he went down he told me he's 35 and divorced twice (overshare! Such sexy conversation!) and when I realized he felt like a tepid jellyfish trying to enter my woman bits, I thought to myself "yeah, I think I know why you're twice divorced" (I crack jokes to myself, don't judge me) lol. He's such a nice guy, he wants to see me again next time I'm in his town, perhaps I'll give him a tutorial next time.
Done tactfully, there's a very good chance he would very much appreciate the tutorial. After all, perhaps part of the reason he was divorced twice was because he made the mistake each time of marrying women who expected the guy to know what they liked magically without them ever giving any suggestions or hints...
 

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I have known ladies that don't offer DFK because they don't like having a tongue jammed down their throat or saliva all over their face, and some people are SUCH aggressive kissers that it can make a lady feel really uneasy so she finds it easier to just not offer that all together.
I have a dog that tries that with me.

I love her just the same :pound:
 

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whisker burn....I am surprised no one has mentioned it. At the end of a session your face is red and rashed. I don't miss the look of 'rug burn' on the face.
 
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