Awful Customers
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Your thoughts are always worth reading, Babylon...
Another fine post—sensible and helpful.
Almost like air out of a punctured balloon, the fun can easily go out of pooning when lapses in etiquette make relations even slightly antagonistic.
But I suspect when a pooner is delinquent in meeting an SP's expectations regarding hygiene or the donation process or whatever, often he's not culpable so much of sinister intent as of forgetfulness due to the stress of the moment.
Even many suave, seasoned, relaxed, cash-rich pooners (like myself? ha!) started out acutely nervous about meeting an SP and felt emotionally overloaded by self-doubts and worries and misgivings—which can leave them hygienically challenged or even make them behaviorally erratic... like chickening out at the last moment.
I tend to think when a pooner commits a lapse in etiquette it's important for an SP to first practice the art of empathetic communication to steer him toward mending his ways. This obviously doesn't apply in the case of hard-boiled "rogue pooners"—hopefully a very small minority—who rudely breach an SP's restrictions or take flagrant advantage of her time.
Certainly, posting a standard checklist of pooner etiquette in a prominent place on PERB would be a constructive step—some similar sites do this. Perhaps it would also reduce the chance of adversarial relations if providers would spend 15 minutes or so meeting a new client for an initial chat, perhaps in the quiet corner of a coffee shop, to defuse anxieties, establish at least minimum rapport, clarify basic expectations, and make an intuitive assessment of each other... though I know this proposal has pitfalls too.
Keep up your stimulating work, Babylon—both in written form and otherwise.
Another fine post—sensible and helpful.
Almost like air out of a punctured balloon, the fun can easily go out of pooning when lapses in etiquette make relations even slightly antagonistic.
But I suspect when a pooner is delinquent in meeting an SP's expectations regarding hygiene or the donation process or whatever, often he's not culpable so much of sinister intent as of forgetfulness due to the stress of the moment.
Even many suave, seasoned, relaxed, cash-rich pooners (like myself? ha!) started out acutely nervous about meeting an SP and felt emotionally overloaded by self-doubts and worries and misgivings—which can leave them hygienically challenged or even make them behaviorally erratic... like chickening out at the last moment.
I tend to think when a pooner commits a lapse in etiquette it's important for an SP to first practice the art of empathetic communication to steer him toward mending his ways. This obviously doesn't apply in the case of hard-boiled "rogue pooners"—hopefully a very small minority—who rudely breach an SP's restrictions or take flagrant advantage of her time.
Certainly, posting a standard checklist of pooner etiquette in a prominent place on PERB would be a constructive step—some similar sites do this. Perhaps it would also reduce the chance of adversarial relations if providers would spend 15 minutes or so meeting a new client for an initial chat, perhaps in the quiet corner of a coffee shop, to defuse anxieties, establish at least minimum rapport, clarify basic expectations, and make an intuitive assessment of each other... though I know this proposal has pitfalls too.
Keep up your stimulating work, Babylon—both in written form and otherwise.
Trust me Vienna. I go the extra mile for the Ladies as well! Rocker1965 isn't alone here on this! LOL.
Being clean and smelling nice is Essential for me.I have huge respect for the ladies I see. I would haven't it any less.
Consider me like a window. I'd wanna be triple windexed!
Not once!!
Trust me Vienna. I go the extra mile for the Ladies as well! Rocker1965 isn't alone here on this! LOL.
I have huge respect for the ladies I see. I would haven't it any less.
Consider me like a window. I'd wanna be triple windexed!
Then I am a window with you babe! Windexed 544985749 times over as well...
I wish everyone was a window...lolI take offense to the "Chinese guy (not that it matters)" comment. Why are you singling out chinese people? I'm sure there are non-chinese that have done the same thing and used the same lame duck excuses. Please EXPLAIN yourself.
Then to top it off "not that it matters". Let me kick you in the ass and then hope it doesn't hurt. I believe you have issues with chinese men. As Hubba pointed out earlier, it's not the race. Every culture has their fair share of dumb asses.
Why didn't you note the race of the other guys? It didn't matter because why? I'm very curious to know.
And yes I am chinese. I do not do any of the things that you have mentioned and I keep myself clean and in awesome health and shape. I respect those that provide the services to me. I have to admit I wasn't prepared once and was embarrassed that I couldn't provide the donation in my usual discrete fashion but never again will that happen.
I await your response.
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awful customers
Interesting thread maybe?
I suppose some points have been interesting but most I find as common sense. Some things I have noticed (experienced), if you are the customer, what would be the good customer does not apply to all sp's. Unfortunately, I have tried a few before sticking with the best (my opinion). It had nothing to do with price nor offers. I soon learned that many that offer the service are "people" ..meaning that most ladies are turned on by what all ladies are turned on by..be it a service provider or a librarian. That thing that this is entaginable for most to concieve. It is the feeling that you not only respect the lady but care about her. If you want the service that you really want, you have to ask yourself as a pooner one thing....... Is it anything like GFE...this is what I am speaking of. All the rest, I would not be able to comment on, nor would want to dwell on. True GFE is earned from the pooner, time is bought and given. If the provider is real the time is there to be had, but it is up to the man whether this is a gift that can be provided and what degree it can be provided. I have heard the discusions on both sides and have been on the recieving end of the bad and good. Some ladies provide the good, but it is up to us to find out how good that can be. Some ladies provide the bad (most pooners have no choice in this) and that is what this forum shows us.
In closing before I am scathed at being gay, shilled or just strange for this thread, bad customers are just as plentiful as bad sps. Do we really care about the tax incentives of these ladies or are we really more concerned with as men to what the dollar is best spent on. Personally my dollar equates to not just my smile but also the ladies smile. Please do not slash back to telling how naive I might be about the buying and selling market and that I just bought that smile. I know that I invested in that extra hug.........slash away.
Interesting thread maybe?
I suppose some points have been interesting but most I find as common sense. Some things I have noticed (experienced), if you are the customer, what would be the good customer does not apply to all sp's. Unfortunately, I have tried a few before sticking with the best (my opinion). It had nothing to do with price nor offers. I soon learned that many that offer the service are "people" ..meaning that most ladies are turned on by what all ladies are turned on by..be it a service provider or a librarian. That thing that this is entaginable for most to concieve. It is the feeling that you not only respect the lady but care about her. If you want the service that you really want, you have to ask yourself as a pooner one thing....... Is it anything like GFE...this is what I am speaking of. All the rest, I would not be able to comment on, nor would want to dwell on. True GFE is earned from the pooner, time is bought and given. If the provider is real the time is there to be had, but it is up to the man whether this is a gift that can be provided and what degree it can be provided. I have heard the discusions on both sides and have been on the recieving end of the bad and good. Some ladies provide the good, but it is up to us to find out how good that can be. Some ladies provide the bad (most pooners have no choice in this) and that is what this forum shows us.
In closing before I am scathed at being gay, shilled or just strange for this thread, bad customers are just as plentiful as bad sps. Do we really care about the tax incentives of these ladies or are we really more concerned with as men to what the dollar is best spent on. Personally my dollar equates to not just my smile but also the ladies smile. Please do not slash back to telling how naive I might be about the buying and selling market and that I just bought that smile. I know that I invested in that extra hug.........slash away.
(a) "Chinese guy". I am quoting the lady in question verbatim. Maybe ask why a Thai person would mention he was Chinese. Maybe that comment would give other ladies the idea to look over their should at the dick when that Chinese guy is going for the doggie. Hey, if I could have said 5'7" 160 pounds, scar on left cheek, one ear, wears a monocle (glasses would fall off LOL), and has a wooden leg, I would have - but all I had to go by was the lady's comment.
(b) "not that it matters" - obviously you never watched Seinfeld.
(c) I would like that particular douchebag to see this post, know who he is, and hopefully take a nap with his neck on some train tracks as penitence.
If you and your sister display the same attitude towards fred that you display towards the other members of this board, i can understand why he wont do business with either of you.
I've always wondered how the chinese manage to maintain such healthy numbers.
Never underestimate the educational value of perb
Ok Ok i give up.
Your sister is a saint and everyone that disagrees with her is an asshole and totally wrong.
There are you happy now?
All your doing is making excuses.
Your sister shits all over people but its ok because she has issues with fred?
You are both sound like professional victims.
Things digress.... It's just a little testical hair!
Ummm, maybe you guys can pm this stuff back-and-forth?
It's just nice when threads stay on topic and relevant to there original intent. I feel the anger and frustration from you guys and I understand how annoying it is to feel misunderstood or attacked, but why get yourself all worked up and make a mountain out of mole hill? Did this all start over testical hair ? Often showing aggitation and angery attitude only serves to justify the negative things others have said.
Internet forums. If you don't want to condone what goes on in a forum (or website, chat room, etc...) or how they do business or if you feel ostracized, then very simply: boycott it, start your own forum, join a different one or make constructive and pertinent suggestions as to how it can be improved.
This forum generates revenue from SP's - that's why the guys are here, right?
I am one of the newest and youngest people on this board, yet strangely, I am starting to feel like one of the most mature. I hope I haven't offended anyone too much with this candid post - if I did - just PM me and leave this thread alone.
Ummm, maybe you guys can pm this stuff back-and-forth?
It's just nice when threads stay on topic and relevant to there original intent. I feel the anger and frustration from you guys and I understand how annoying it is to feel misunderstood or attacked, but why get yourself all worked up and make a mountain out of mole hill? Did this all start over testical hair
? Often showing aggitation and angery attitude only serves to justify the negative things others have said. Internet forums. If you don't want to condone what goes on in a forum (or website, chat room, etc...) or how they do business or if you feel ostracized, then very simply: boycott it, start your own forum, join a different one or make constructive and pertinent suggestions as to how it can be improved.
This forum generates revenue from SP's - that's why the guys are here, right?
I am one of the newest and youngest people on this board, yet strangely, I am starting to feel like one of the most mature.
I hope I haven't offended anyone too much with this candid post - if I did - just PM me and leave this thread alone.tuula2
This discussion(??!) reminds me of the old days on alt. newsgroups. Childish flame wars for no reason whatsoever.
It's only a discussion board folks. You probably will not meet each other so why not just chill instead of baiting each other.
One nasty reply will elicit another. I found the stuff on shaving interesting as i have never done that (down there) and it has never been an issue but then again i have not seen a lot of sp's.
I would like to hear from some other women, how strongly they feel about this.
I respect Babylon's comments and I would go almost the distance (ie. clip but not shave) if it meant the difference between seeing her and not (hope this commitment will be enough to get an appointment with you Babylon! ).
now back to my rant on flame wars...
Tuula2 or Tuula3 (the sister of-- was there ever a Tuula or Tuula1?)... I have been on this board for about 7 weeks. In that time I have seen many of your posts and while you refer to yourself as sarcastic, IMHO your posts are more accurately described as caustic. I cannot think of a single one of your posts that I had thought added to the discussion instead they are usually of a trolling nature deliberately written to elicit negative reaction.
Please take the time to read your last 50 or so posts but pretend they were written by someone else. What is your reaction? I apologise if you take this post as simple criticism but it was meant to be constructive.
I await the inevitable flames but I just couldn't keep quiet anymore. Unlike email you can't simply delete something you don't want to read but are forced to read irreverent posts if you happen to be interested in the topic.
I enjoy the discussion on this board most of the time especially the witty banter among some of the members but there is a difference between wit and spite. If you are not sure where your post fits between those two then better not to post.
This discussion(??!) reminds me of the old days on alt. newsgroups. Childish flame wars for no reason whatsoever.
It's only a discussion board folks. You probably will not meet each other so why not just chill instead of baiting each other.
One nasty reply will elicit another. I found the stuff on shaving interesting as i have never done that (down there) and it has never been an issue but then again i have not seen a lot of sp's.
I would like to hear from some other women, how strongly they feel about this.
I respect Babylon's comments and I would go almost the distance (ie. clip but not shave) if it meant the difference between seeing her and not (hope this commitment will be enough to get an appointment with you Babylon!
).now back to my rant on flame wars...
Tuula2 or Tuula3 (the sister of-- was there ever a Tuula or Tuula1?)... I have been on this board for about 7 weeks. In that time I have seen many of your posts and while you refer to yourself as sarcastic, IMHO your posts are more accurately described as caustic. I cannot think of a single one of your posts that I had thought added to the discussion instead they are usually of a trolling nature deliberately written to elicit negative reaction.
Please take the time to read your last 50 or so posts but pretend they were written by someone else. What is your reaction? I apologise if you take this post as simple criticism but it was meant to be constructive.
I await the inevitable flames but I just couldn't keep quiet anymore. Unlike email you can't simply delete something you don't want to read but are forced to read irreverent posts if you happen to be interested in the topic.
I enjoy the discussion on this board most of the time especially the witty banter among some of the members but there is a difference between wit and spite. If you are not sure where your post fits between those two then better not to post.
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Before you accused her of being "caustic", had you thought of the fact that she too may have MEANT different?
You can't blame her for her attitude (only referring to this one thread before someone with too much time goes thru every single post of hers and finds one counter example) because her words were twisted. That has happened to me too and it does piss one off when someone twists your words. Normal people would ask what you meant before they jump all over you. I have to admit I too have jumped on people (even in person) but when they clarified what they meant to say, I at least have the decency to apologize.
If you go back to the beginning of the thread
How many times does that have to be pointed out before someone gets it? Instead of going on and on, just read what the lady wrote. It is that crap that drives decent people away from boards from time to time.
Now, In keeping with tradition, I suppose the fact that I can read will be interpreted wrong so as to bring out all the calls of "White Knight" again LOL.
Where exactly did you see this posted by Tuula2 ?
If you or anyone else can point it out to me i would be more than happy to withdraw any comments i made and apologize to Tuula2.
I thought it was pretty obvious but perhaps not. Here it is:
NO where does it say she will give lousy service, just that she can give more effort if there is no wig (please refer to dental floss analogy) in the way.
