Attitude Problems

[DavidMR]

In an "unmarked" envelope? But I usually put it in one marked "$$$ for Sex". So that's not good?

LOL! Usually, I just write the SPs name on the bank machine envelope.

 

[storm rider]

The short & sweet with regards to the donation/payment/cash to leave with no pillowtalk nor relationship BS.

Enter and say hello and kiss....place the envelope(filled with the appropriate amount of cash) in plain view....alternatly place a wad of cash in plain view that is appropriate rumuneration (for the wad you are going to let loose)......enjoy the fun and leave when the time runs out....without being a needy time burglar type of guy....repeat and enjoy as your finances allow(as well as to your tastes with regards to cash hungry gals that only offer YMMV service)

Bring flowers if you like the gal and have seen her before....bring other stuff so as to make her more comfortable with you......it is pretty simple....it is Pay for Play....it is a bit pricey for some....but it is a hell of a lot better than blue-balls after a $200 dinner at Red Lobster and a kiss on the cheek.

Just sayin.

SR

 

[laurel love]

To me it's a communications issue. Do you go to restaurants that have big signs outside saying that customers who are rude, ill-behaved, or penniless will be refused service? Probably not, because they don't advertize that, it's understood. Instead, they have signs saying what they offer.

Well, that is an interesting comparison. Let's take a look at it.

People develop restaurant manners from going to restaurants with their parents, usually from an early age.

Folks look around and learn how to behave and what is expected of them by watching others engaged in the same social behaviour. So most people don't need signs in a restaurant to explain the behaviour expected. Being in a public place usually intimidates most people from breaking the code of good manners (most people)

The Pooning experience is generally learned solo. Many guys have no idea what to expect or how to proceed. There are no situations where men learn this as a group activity, right? People don't go as families out to Poon and fathers aren't instructing their sons on the finer points of etiquette when paying a prostitute.

Escort ads evolve as the escort gains experience in the business. I suppose with the ads you have been reading the escorts involved had to tailor their ads to eliminate the sort of behaviour they were encountering.

If you are a really nice guy then there is nothing to be concerned about eh? As Uncleg mentions, just show a little faith with the first act and the rest should unfold accordingly.

Victoria your English is beautiful..straight to the point and wonderful to read.

 

[the old maxx50]

I have found the the timing of handing over the donation can be awkward.. Just coming in the door and giving to them or like you say put it on the side table .. Not sure witch table that is . Some time if it some one i have meet before .. in a social group .. , And then i see them as a client .. they don't want me to hand them the money so quickly ...

I found that some of r my regulars they were ok with me putting it on the table after the appointment. My tip was all way s included in the envelope weather i payed and the beginning or the end

 

[GATSBY]

i agree with umbras.. though i do not take part in this hobby.. how hard is it to a gentleman and comply with a simple request..

 

[Umbras]

Exactly it's pretty simple. Hard to believe 3 pages on such a silly topic.

I blame boredom!!!!!!

 

[uncleg]

I blame boredom!!!!!!

Here read this, it'll perk you up.......


http://www.google.ca/url?sa=t&sourc...qL2IAQ&usg=AFQjCNGRgAHIs5LbFs9J7er6kyTtfYqtZg

 

[lenharper]

if I was with you Ms Jolie, my money would disappear into your hands without complaint.

 

[uncleg]

if I was with you Ms Jolie, my money would disappear into your hands without complaint.

Probably not the only thing that would disappear in her hands.

 

[DavidMR]

Many gentlemen seek a GFE which is truly like a date but with a guaranteed good time and happy ending!

I know a superb SP whose website doesn't contain any Miss Manners pages.

Your description of what customers are looking for, a "guaranteed good time and happy ending" is pretty much spot on. In fact, I think you could say the converse is also true, that men seek dates that tend to resemble an encounter with an SP, but without the explicit cash transfer, but including the "guaranteed good time and happy ending"! Those dates are hard to find!

 

[jordan]

Hi It's Jordan

Dear fellow Perbs,
I can understand that this might possibly offend some future new friends. It has never been meant that way. I do ask on my site that you put the donation in an envelope so that no one feels uncomfortable and we can start to enjoy each other........Kisses Jordan

 

[DavidMR]

For those who think I was being hyper-sensitive, or imagining a tone that isn't really there, I can only say that to me it's a communications issue. Is the seller attracting the customers they want, or trying to discourage the less desirable customers they don't want.

 

[Umbras]

For those who think I am being hyper-sensitive or imagining a certain tone that isn't really there, may I offer this sample:



What I do expect, and really must insist, is that you discreetly present your donation in an unsealed envelope to the side upon your arrival. ... I can also assure you that any discussion of these matters during our time together would be inappropriate. It would be most regrettable if our first encounter were to be cut short over such a silly indiscretion. Donations are all-inclusive and for companionship only - nothing else is implied. Any other activities that may happen are between two consenting adults.

If you have any other questions please look at my FAQ page.

If the guest is unable to even do that, how can a companion feel confident that the encounter go smoothly?

That statement is for people who have never ventured into this world before, and it is easy to read tone into a request that allows a discreet way to handle the consideration part with simple ease and to avoid what may be awkward for first time guests. Also the last part about companionship covers two situations, one is as a form of disclamer that steps around the sex for money entrapment and for the second is that if at any time a client acts in an inappropriate manner, the session is over.

Not everyone is wise to the ways of this world, I know when I came back after a looong hiatus and was not aware of Perb, I had researched a few independants and every one of them had directions on how to handle the consideration almost verbatim to what you just posted. I found it quite usefull and it allowed for a smooth transition to the rest of the night. It may be informal in wording, but so is giving the consideration, this just makes it easy.

I would rather pay more attention to the other aspects of thier site, the layout, photos and how the ladies presents themselves in thier bio's. The part you seem to have issue with is what can come across as an impersonal and mechanical, but for me it is a blunt and honest notification that there is no tolerance for acting inaproperatly or that treating the companion with disrespect results in an end to the session.

Like people have said many times if you dont like it, move along. It just seems as a wierd thing to get picky over, you could end up missing quite a memorable experience with a lady you made an assumption about over a commonly used and worded request. It shows a person can respect thier request by following directions and in turn the companion can feel free to do what she does best and make her guests time as fun as they want it.

I am not attacking your opinion and I appologise if it comes across as such, but I am still confused as to why such a minor statement can have such an affect on you

 

[sevenofnine]

one last comment about sps with attitude.


im married with two kids.

so i get attitude at home for free,
i don't need to pay an sp for hers.

 

[markjacob]

I cant believe an SP is so stupid to want her money in an envelope. What if the envelope was full of counterfeits??

 

[Pillowtalk]

I cant believe an SP is so stupid to want her money in an envelope. What if the envelope was full of counterfeits??

Or Canadian Tire money (true story)
Or money there at the beginning, but curiously short after client leaves (true story)
Or money is short of required amount (true story)
Or, as you say, counterfeit (also true story)

All the true stories, many times over, every sp with envelopes has one or all of the above stories to tell lol.

Sometimes the disclaimer is used by sps who really believe the exchange of money for sex is illegal. You can't really tell them any different, they just don't get it. They figure if they don't touch the cash no one can "get" them. No one is trying to "get" them, so weird OCD stuff going on.

 

[Unpossible]

I cant believe an SP is so stupid to want her money in an envelope. What if the envelope was full of counterfeits??

How does the envelope disguise counterfeit money? Isn't the purpose of counterfeit money to deceive on it's own?

 

[markjacob]

How does the envelope disguise counterfeit money? Isn't the purpose of counterfeit money to deceive on it's own?

If you have some brains and take a good look, you could probably tell its counterfeit. If its in an envelope, you'll need to take it out first to look. Just another step. Now if the guy knows the SP is wanting the money in an envelope, he might think she'll never look closely enough, might not even look until he's gone.

Just because it "feels bad" to have the money placed out visibly, is a retarded reason for an SP to want money in an envelope. She's just asking to get ripped off.

 

[Unpossible]

If you have some brains and take a good look, you could probably tell its counterfeit. If its in an envelope, you'll need to take it out first to look. Just another step.

Envelopes aren't made out of steel. You can tear them open with your fingers.

Now if the guy knows the SP is wanting the money in an envelope, he might think she'll never look closely enough, might not even look until he's gone.

Just because it "feels bad" to have the money placed out visibly, is a retarded reason for an SP to want money in an envelope. She's just asking to get ripped off.

Professional escorts require that you shower first. While you're in the bathroom running the taps and pretending to clean yourself they're counting the cash.

 

[Penhold]

I'm surprised this thread has gone as long as it has.

I never carry envelopes around with me and it's never been a problem.

I like to discretely place the money someplace (counter, table, chair, bathroom vanity, etc.) in plain sight as soon as I get in the door, and then hop in the shower.

I like to get the finances out of the way to avoid embarrassment. A few years ago a lady I saw regularly met me at the door dressed in a business suit and started DFKing me before I got my foot in the door. As I got inside, she whispered in my ear that she had a surprise for me - she guided my hand under her skirt as we continued DFKing and I discovered she wasn't wearing any panties and had a dildo and anal beads already inserted. Hell I just about popped right then! Fastest shower I ever took - not sure if the water even had time to land on me before I was out and in the bedroom. The hour flew by quickly and I left totally drained and exhausted. As I was riding down the elevator I put my hand in my pocket and felt a wad of bills and realized I forgot to pay! Totally embarrassed, I called her and returned to pay her. In the meantime, she caught her second wind and dragged me back inside. Luckily I had extra cash on hand and managed to put it on the table while she had me pressed against the wall...... When the blood all drains to the little head it's hard for the big head to remember etiquette...

Ah... sorry... got side-tracked with memories. Don't bother asking who she is - she got a great job, retired from the business and was transferred to a new post in another city.

Regardless of what the website says, I find that if I'm discrete, show a little class, don't pay with a wad of crumpled up $5 bills, keep my loonies to myself, and don't count the money in front of her I never have a problem with the ladies. It's all about being discrete and respectful.