Assholes at Wreck Beach

[Cock Throppled]

The whole issue of the legality or not of public nudity is a red herring. The place is known world wide as a nude beach and local authorities treat it as such.

If you feel aggrieved your picture has been taken while in the nude I suggest you take legal action and see just how far you get.

You completely ignored my main point, which is posers like you who want to bring violence to Wreck Beach are the real assholes ruining the vibe.

If you don't like brown people taking your picture there are plenty of places to stay away from them at WB, but I guess staying as visible as possible either to flaunt yourself or your girlfriend is more important to you than discretion and confrontation.

 

[Cock Throppled]

CT you make zero sense. You deserve to be KO'd taking someones pic without their permission on a nude beach. It's pretty simple. If you don't believe in discression then start posting under your real name here or STFU.

Fuck me, talk about not making sense.

Off your meds, or something? You might think you can assault someone for taking your picture, but you'd be fucking wrong, genius.

What part of my post makes no sense in your deluded world?

I earlier posted it's stupid, rude and tactless to take someone's pic on a nude beach, but legally, unless it's published there is no way you could take it to court. On the other hand, the person assaulted would have a very good case.

 

[jesuschrist]

You might think you can assault someone for taking your picture

Seems like the lesser punishment as far as I'm concerned: you get assaulted, it might hurt for a little while. You get your picture naked posted on the internet, you might lose your friends and family and your job, and that's going to hurt a lot for a long time. So for those idiots who like to take naked photos of girls they didn't have permission to take, some broken ribs is a cheap price to have to pay.

You should really reconsider your position. You think that the guy who punishes the offender is the asshole, but curiously you have nothing to say about those who steal from or maybe even destroy the integrity of an innocent person.

 

[badbadboy]

I was a pretty young guy when Ken Honey was down there with his Hasselblad professional camera taking nude shots on WB. He was pretty up front about what he was doing and he found a few PB centre folds while doing his job plus identified numerous others who were good to go if they signed the release. I was a friend of a friend who knew about his connection to PB and tagged along on the shoots. All of us were nude including Honey. The chicks were lining up to have their pictures taken by Honey when they found out about his affiliation.

This business has been going on for years and sure some people have complained about the photographers taking pics while they were in the nude. LEO basically turned a blind eye to it and advised them to find a more discrete place to lay around in the nude of which there are plenty in the GVRD.

Although its pretty creepy with the different groups hanging about fully clothed taking pictures, it is not new at all and has been going on since the place became accepted as a fully nude 'legal' beach in Vancouver. I have been photographed with a GF at the time while sleeping on our blanket. When I noticed what was going on I just advised her to roll over in such as way that my ass was blocking their view. They just moved on to the next victim.

Taking the law into you own hands will only ramp things up both with the group in question plus bring the LEO in your area. I have seen people throw rocks at these creeps and some times it works and sometimes it brought on a fight. These guys want the element of surprise and having a nude crowd call them out usually works.

Rolling over and ignoring did seem to work at least for when I hung out there.

 

[viola]

I thought only faggots or hot chicks went to that beach?

Yeouch Jason! In all the years I've been reading and occasionally posting on Perb that really is the first highly offensive thing I've read.

My late wife who died of cancer many years ago loved Wreck Beach, she has studied at the Uni up on the coast above, and whenever possible she returned there. After she died I and a group of her friends gathered on the cold, deserted beach in the fall, held hands, had a few laughs and chatted about her, then fully clothed I must say, (I'm not ashamed to be naked, but wet, cold Vancouver in the Fall... Sorry)... I walked out into the waves, shoes and all and emptied her ashes into the water. She was 'hot' yes! , but I'm a faggot? Sheesh!

And, JC, I no longer live in Van, I'm in the S Okanagan now (much, much sunnier;-), but I'm sad to hear of your problems. Spy cams & phones are getting smaller and higher resolution, so blatant or hidden cameras and the easy access to the internet are something beyond our control. If I chose to search I'm sure I could find thousands of naked shots of unsuspecting folk within minutes, my 60 year old gut tells me so what? The old hippy in me says the human body is beautiful, your girl's predicament is, I suspect, just the way it is, so relax, think 'what a bunch of #$%^&' if you must, but relax and live with it!

Most of the folk at Wreck Beach were very laid back 10 years ago, in the pre internet/blogging era, I suspect the same is true now.

Have fun and soak up the sun, if it ever shines there!

 

[Cock Throppled]

Nobody's arguing the common sense aspect.

Of course it's stupid, and disgusting and offensive to stand fully clothed and sneak pictures of naked people, but it isn't against the law.

You, jc or anybody else at WB can't pre-determine whether those pictures are for personal wanking or internet but assaulting someone because you want to play judge and jury and cowboy IS NOT legal and can land you in a lot more trouble and draw more official attention to the beach than any of us need or want.

The laid back vibe of WB is just as much an attraction as the option to drop trou and starting beach brawls doesn't go down well with regulars any more than clothed voyeurs.

And jc, what fucking century are you living in? A posted photo of you lying nude on a beach will cause you to lose your friends, family and job? Really? Maybe if you're an Amish nanny or you're under court orders not to be around children, but that would probably apply to any beach. Even in some professionally-taken candid pictures most the people are rarely recognizable anyway. Then there's the issue of where anything would be posted that you might even know about.

Most of the time turning over and ignoring these guys works wonders, but go ahead get confrontational, start fights and ruin it by bringing LE and city officials down there.

 

[the old maxx50]

Take a look at all the nude pictures of celebrities that have been taken on public or privet beaches .. it seldom hurt their rep.. and nothing much is done about who toke them .. WE do have privacy laws in Canada .. but i don;t think they protect you form having your picture taken in a public place .. eve if you are nude . How you r picture is used or if it portrays you in an untrue or inflammatory way .. then you can sue .

If you have no problem taking your close off in public , then you should also expect other to gawk , But taking pictures is rude and voyeuristic depending on the nature and what area of the body they are photography , if they have a criminal record for similar or sexual offenses , i assume they could be charged .
but Like some have said .. who want the police down there on the beach where any number of other illegal things could be going on ..
You could make a scene , tell them to F off , ignore them and or cover up .. or just leave and find a more privet place.

 

[Cock Throppled]

So let me get this straight, you are more worried about unwanted attention to a beach than you are about someones personal rights to not be photographed? I'm not pre-determining anything people are going to do with someones photos, I'm saying they don't have a right to take them.

I bolded what you said in black because that really is what you are worried about. So the people doing illegal activities ( doing drugs, drinking etc) take precedent over the people who are there for nude bathing and some privacy. Thanks for finally cutting to the chase

Seriously, are you really that obtuse?

Who the flying fuck mentioned anything, anywhere about illegal drinking and drugs? Try to stay on point.

What you think and what the law allows are not the same.

 

[myselftheother]

I don't care if it's illegal or not, if some asshole is taking pics of me or anyone I'm with at WB without permission, they're gonna get cracked on the head, shamed and a ruined camera, phone or whatever device that may be tossed into the water...it's wrong and unethical. Ever heard that word before? Might not be illegal to take pics of nudists at a nude beach, but it's unethical considering the location and the spirit of what WB is about. It's a counter culture thing down there, for people to get away from the daily expectations and stresses the world piles on. It's supposed to be an oasis, a safe place to go to be naked and free...without the outside world judging you...it's unethical, rude boorish behavior and I'll harrass you, throw rocks at you and point you out to the several hundred other people down there who are trying to enjoy their day at the beach...

How about if I go down to Kits beach and start to take pics of your girlfriend in her bikini? Nice pics of her titties in a bikini, her ass? And I'll take them while with a group of friends who aren;t there to use the beach, or to enjoy the sun...just there to take pics, gawk and point at the people on the beach...doesn't natter where you are, it's rude and unethical. Don't care if I might get charged with assault, but yer gonna have a bad moment if I'm there when it happens. Just saying...

 

[jesuschrist]

And jc, what fucking century are you living in? A posted photo of you lying nude on a beach will cause you to lose your friends, family and job? Really?

Use your imagination, it really would help you understand things. Here's a teaser: suppose you are a consultant whose reputation needs to be untarnished for your clients to respect you. Suppose your clients are large blue chip companies, suppose they are not just that, but whose reputation must be unassailable. Suppose you come from a close knit ethnic community, and suppose your parents are the leaders of some association to do with that community. These are not specific things either, there are endless permutations of these things.

And then I think you would say to me, then don't go to WB. Fair enough, but if one's expectation of reasonable privacy exists there, and there are thousands who rightly have that expectation, then if I don't go, my rights are being trampled by those who are willing to exploit my rights. You side with the exploiters.

That they use surreptitious means to steal images from others says everything about their culpability, both ethically and legally. I don't need to speak about ethics, but you need to address it because yours are questionable in this regard. Legally speaking, the courts look at your actions and intent. If your actions are surreptitious, your intent lies within culpability of a crime. Often they will take someone who displays such behaviour along with being culpable and apply a law to stop and punish them from doing something unethical. It's the spirit of their actions that law enforcement and the judicial system take interest in, and they apply the law to produce an optimal result. That's the way it really works.

 

[jesuschrist]

http://straight.com/article-744696/vancouver/wreck-nudists-slam-metros-park-goons#comments_here

Interesting article..

Thanks for the article.

I side with parks operations on the matter. I think that Judy Williams is foolish to press for more freedoms. She should know better that proper policing and strict guidelines is what makes it possible to have a nude beach and have it legally. This is not the 60's; people are a lot more threatening, reductionist, more cunning, have greater means at their disposal, and are a lot meaner today. She needs to forget her hippy days and get with today, and only working with the cops can she be guaranteed her rights.

 

[Cock Throppled]

I don't care if it's illegal or not, if some asshole is taking pics of me or anyone I'm with at WB without permission, they're gonna get cracked on the head, shamed and a ruined camera, phone or whatever device that may be tossed into the water...it's wrong and unethical. Ever heard that word before? Might not be illegal to take pics of nudists at a nude beach, but it's unethical considering the location and the spirit of what WB is about. It's a counter culture thing down there, for people to get away from the daily expectations and stresses the world piles on. It's supposed to be an oasis, a safe place to go to be naked and free...without the outside world judging you...it's unethical, rude boorish behavior and I'll harrass you, throw rocks at you and point you out to the several hundred other people down there who are trying to enjoy their day at the beach...

How about if I go down to Kits beach and start to take pics of your girlfriend in her bikini? Nice pics of her titties in a bikini, her ass? And I'll take them while with a group of friends who aren;t there to use the beach, or to enjoy the sun...just there to take pics, gawk and point at the people on the beach...doesn't natter where you are, it's rude and unethical. Don't care if I might get charged with assault, but yer gonna have a bad moment if I'm there when it happens. Just saying...

Great logic - the atmosphere of peace, tranquility and tolerance of Wreck, so..."they're gonna get cracked on the head, shamed and a ruined camera, phone or whatever device that may be tossed into the water.... "

People go there to get away from the asshole Roid apes like you that start fights and that's just what that attitude brings to Wreck. Have you been to Kits latety? People are taking pictures of girls and guys all the time. So what?

And Hunka - really, for a guy that likes to throw an opinion in on just abut anybody's post - learn to argue. It's like we're discussing the merits of BMW vs Mercedes, and you jump in saying yogurt should be a colour.