Are LOW RATES a turn off?

[yazoo]

Pierre,

My experiences over the years clearly demonstrates that a higher end lady who goes out of her way to prepare for the event is much more into the event than a $160.00 an hours who has a time clock and the next guy lined up at the door.

we should clarify that my idea of a date is an overnight or dinner date or min 2 hour date. I am not a 30 min. guy or a one hour hop in the shower hop into bed bang done on my way. So two totally different situations.

So its really apples and oranges.

Both high volume lower priced providers, and low volume higher priced providers either offer overnighters or not. And in both case an overnighter will be a multiple of their hourly rate - usually less a discount. The only thing that differentiates is the multiplier.

Yes a higher priced provider is hopefully better prepared, but I would think that the benefit of this would be more to the short time session rather than the long.

Once the fancy clothes and makeup are off - we're all the same. And as far as out of the bedroom activities - I'd rather the gal put on jeans and a t-shirt and us go go-carting. The laughter of a low priced provider having fun is just as precious as that of a high priced working girl.

 

[Dickson]

So its really apples and oranges.

Both high volume lower priced providers, and low volume higher priced providers either offer overnighters or not. And in both case an overnighter will be a multiple of their hourly rate - usually less a discount. The only thing that differentiates is the multiplier.

Yes a higher priced provider is hopefully better prepared, but I would think that the benefit of this would be more to the short time session rather than the long.

Once the fancy clothes and makeup are off - we're all the same. And as far as out of the bedroom activities - I'd rather the gal put on jeans and a t-shirt and us go go-carting. The laughter of a low priced provider having fun is just as precious as that of a high priced working girl.

Yazoo, I am not disagreeing with you. Once the clothes come off they are very much the same. Like your comment about having a good time is not based on glamour look. For me I like to have her fit my world. But I am interested in more than a roll in the hay. I want more. I want emotional connection. Hour girls just do not cut it for me but they might float your boat.

My point is a higher end lady will invest in my fantasy because she is higher end. The lower priced higher volume ladies do not have the time nor the interest.

Would a higher end lady like one hour dates. Some might but if they are investing in me I better have a pay off. Or why invest.

 

[uncleg]

Who cares what someone charges? Unless you're the person charging then there isn't much to worry about.

HuH ? I could see this response in a thread started by a "pooner"...but to see it in a thread started by an SP...WTF ? The person charging is obviously worried/concerned about her rates and how she is perceived because of them. She's getting feedback from the clients and their response to rates.....will it help her, hopefully. Comments like the above won't.

 

[Caramel]

Hey gents and ladies,

Are low rates a turnoff?

xoxo NIKKI

depends who you're asking...for some it is, for some it's a turn-ON!

 

[myselftheother]

High rates can be a turn off as well. Med rates too. Depends on the provider, personality, service, etc. Is she worth the $ is subjective to be sure, but there are those out there who are charging rates that are ridiculously high for what you can get for half. Low rates also can be a turn off as well, as it makes you wonder just why is she charging so much less...

Again, you sometimes get what you pay for. Sometimes you blow a huge amount and get totally shafted the wrong way. Whatever you pay, it can be a gamble. Some you just look and wonder how they even make a buck...

 

[Caramel]

another thing Ive noticed and it seems to be a pattern, but sps with the "reasonable" rates tend be much more popular on perb and just have more reviews and gets more attention than usual in general. Sometimes when I see some SP's threads pop up lots I tink to myself why is she so popular?!? there are dozens like her probably, but as I suspect it is always because of her rates and then of course her service, but firstly the lower rate is what gets her to be sampled by more people.

 

[P3t3rp4n]

It's hard to say. You can find escorts in the 200 range with service like those in the 400 range. It's. Usually just the looks that vary, usually higher price means younger girl.

 

[westwoody]

I want more. I want emotional connection. Hour girls just do not cut it for me but they might float your boat.

Emotional connections cannot be bought. They don't happen because of a price point. An expensive girl might be better at faking an emotional connection, and that might enable her to get a higher fee.

The lower priced higher volume ladies do not have the time nor the interest.

Low priced ladies do not have a stopwatch and a lineup of guys at the door. That is a myth that higher end ladies sometimes like to promote to give themselves an aura of exclusivity and desirability.

 

[Dickson]

Emotional connections cannot be bought. They don't happen because of a price point. An expensive girl might be better at faking an emotional connection, and that might enable her to get a higher fee.


Low priced ladies do not have a stopwatch and a lineup of guys at the door. That is a myth that higher end ladies sometimes like to promote to give themselves an aura of exclusivity and desirability.

Oh westwoody this is where you are wrong. You can buy the emotion. I have been doing it for years. Now it is hard to find the right ladies who are will to be bought. But you can find them.

Not sure what ladies you have been with but the higher end ladies I have been with are very much in to fewer guys with greater attention to detail.

So on these points my experiences then to fly in the face of your comments.

 

[Dickson]

Wow Lance,

This could Be a course at UBC. I am impressed the thought You put into it.

After economics lesson and the philosophy lecture I would Emphasis once again I am not interested in the hour girls. I am looking for the longer dates. Over the years there have been only a few ladies who can do what I seek. Bit Those few can make you feel the emotion. So I don't step down from my position that if I want to get what I want I need to go to a higher end lady.

Sorry guys after all the years doing this I just can not see myself rumbaing though the garage behind Morton's to find a steak dinner. Maybe I might find an uneaten steak. But I think I want to walk though the front door and pay the price for a steak dinner.

I apologize to all of you who think I am foolish, or who disagree, or who want to educate me on the finer points and prove to me how many fairies on the end of a pin. I am happy to spend the money for a quality lady. But I learned a long time ago that I do no speak for the masses nor do to I claim to know much about anything. So take it for what it is worth.

 

[Dickson]

Wow Lance,

This could be a course at UBC. I am impressed the thought you put into it.

After the economics lesson and the philosophy lecture I would emphasis once again I am not interested in the hour girls. I am looking for the longer dates. I am looking for a completely different experience. Over the years there have been only a few ladies who can do what I seek. But those few can make you feel the emotion. So I don't step down from my position that if I want to get what I want I need to go to a higher end lady.

Sorry guys after all the years doing this I just can not see myself rumbaing though the garage behind Morton's to find a steak dinner. Maybe I might find an uneaten steak. But I think I want to walk though the front door and pay the price for the steak dinner I want.

I apologize to all of you who think I am foolish, or who disagree, or who want to educate me on the finer points and prove to me how many fairies on the end of a pin. I am happy to spend the money for a quality lady. But I learned a long time ago that I do no speak for the masses nor do to I claim to know much about anything. So take it for what it is worth.

 

[Caramel]

Westwoody is right, emotional connections cannot be bought - certainly not in a single hour. That's virtually impossible (unless you believe in love at first sight).

I dont know, I have developed major crushes from some clients from just a half hr or hour date, and can't stop thinking about them for the whole day with a big giddy grin on my face, then I knock some sense into myself and get over it the next day.

 

[summerbreeze]

Hey gents and ladies,

Are low rates a turnoff? My rates are very reasonable, because I am so part time and I have lousy pictures. I am also not "built" in the classical sense... unless you consider 32-26-32 with muscles built. Lol.

I have a pretty face, aside from what I do in the sack, it's my greatest asset.

But do I sell myself short at cheap Winnipeg rates?

My clients repeat 90% of the time... am I short-selling myself?

Please advise...

xoxo NIKKI

like many things there is a right way to have a lower price and a wrong way

wrong way has the consequences of giving the impression of lower value proposition

right way give the impression of a bargain (higher than usual value for the price)

this pertains to all products and services

perceived value before an actual encounter will be exactly that, perceived

could be low cost = low service, or could be undervalued service due to provider passing along savings to the customer due to lower overhead (for example)

 

[Ms Erica Phoenix]

God Dickson, after 5 years of reading your posts, you've been more than clear and consistent in your position. Nothing could be clearer.

Completely understand/support your search for a certain quality and experience - which can only be found at the high end of the spectrum.

But admit it, every and now and then, don't you get the urge to wander into A&W and dig into a Teen Burger? Huh?

Sushi occasionally?

Can't go to Morton's for dinner every night!

That's exactly why I do what I do in the manner in which I do it...so I can provide the type of service to which Dickson refers at the price point to which Lance and others allude. Because, let's face it; as much as I would love to be wined & dined at Morton's every night, most of the time I'm quite content to buy the best grade of steak I can, prepare it properly to maximize the flavour, pair it with the right sides to make a remarkably satisfying meal that leaves my guests thinking "Damn...it's been a really long time since I ate such a delicious, juicy, tender steak. What's for dessert??"
:wink:

 

[Helena Shay]

It's all relative isn't it. I choose to charge higher so that I don't have to see as many clients and give them my 100% best. Too often girls in agencies and those who see a higher volume get burnt out and spend less care and attention to their clients. In Toronto, 300 is a standard for higher quality ladies.

I totally agree, I think it's better to charge more and not be all worn out! Sometimes I have guys come back within 24 hours, and almost every client I've ever had has become a repeat client, so I know I'm not a bad provider, and I always seem to build up a good reputation really quick because I give such great service. Also I think upselling is a turn off to most men, where is charging a flat fee for time and doing whatever you want in that time is the best way to go...

 

[Dickson]

God Dickson, after 5 years of reading your posts, you've been more than clear and consistent in your position. Nothing could be clearer.

Completely understand/support your search for a certain quality and experience - which can only be found at the high end of the spectrum.

But admit it, every and now and then, don't you get the urge to wander into A&W and dig into a Teen Burger? Huh?

Sushi occasionally?

Can't go to Morton's for dinner every night!

Don't you know it Lance. You are right change is the spice of life. However as I get older more resistance to change. Same beef just cut differently. Tried something different with Dayna and Emilie. As an older guy I was not impressed. No disrespect to them. I have to say Ms James has redefined the concept of GFE for me.

 

[Dickson]

^*^*^

I'm fricking jealous.


There's music

Wiinky, Why are you jealous?

 

[badbadboy]

God Dickson, after 5 years of reading your posts, you've been more than clear and consistent in your position. Nothing could be clearer.

Completely understand/support your search for a certain quality and experience - which can only be found at the high end of the spectrum.

But admit it, every now and then, don't you get the urge to wander into A&W and dig into a Teen Burger? Huh?

Sushi occasionally?

Can't go to Morton's for dinner every night!

I recall a conversation I had with one of my ATF's a few years ago. She was at the upper end of my donation limits so two hour weekly visits weren't really in the cards for me.

She sort of questioned what my thinking was about shopping on Commercial Drive or Main Street vs seeing her on Robson Street.

My reply was basically like yours Lance "sometimes I like to get a panini on Commercial Drive or sometimes I like to get a nice asian fusion meal on Main Street and once or twice a month when I really want to treat myself I'll be knocking on your door to have the ultimate buffet of pleasure". Somehow she acknowledged what I was saying but I knew where she was going with the conversation.

 

[LLLurkJ2]

That crap food doesn't belong in the human body!!..period..

Best to just stay home and BBQ some organic grass fed pastured beef burgers!!!

But I must say I do have much appreciation for higher end restaurants... I have celiac and an endless list of other food sensitivities, regular restaurants are scary for me, fast food is deadly!! The higher end ones are more accommodating (and safer!!) But there are exceptions...like Nandos (the only semi-fast food place I can eat at and not get sick)

But that grass fed stuff is expensive. Why, just to afford it you'd have to raise your rates...

 

[hankmoody]

Low price point isn't a turn off point if the lady has been reviewed well by a couple of credible board posters.

Low price point / high price point doesn't matter.

If you have Poor service, poor attitude, poor cleanliness (of herself and her shared or unshared incall). Fake pictures in her ad, changes menu options upon your arrival. It doesn't matter high or low price point if an SP doesn't deliver.

Yep
Low rates are a turn on if you get what you are looking for.