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A slightly different perspective

I recently read the following article found here:

http://ca.movies.yahoo.com/feature/hmg-avatar-hidden-messages.html

Does 'Avatar' Contain Hidden Messages?
by Brett Michael Dykes
December 23, 2009

Since it opened last week, James Cameron's much-anticipated film "Avatar" has won praise from movie critics and been a juggernaut at the box office. But some who have seen the film say that it contains hidden messages that are anti-war, pro-environment, and perhaps even racist.

For the benefit of those who haven't seen the film, a little nonspoiler background might be useful. The story is set in the year 2154 when Earth's inhabitants, having used up most of their natural resources through decades of living in excess, plan to use military force to conquer Pandora, a moon roughly the same size as Earth. Pandora, inhabited by a wise, peaceful, and nature-respecting people with blue skin called the Na'vi, is rich in a resource that the people of Earth desperately need.

The earthlings send in a crew of special-forces mercenaries armed with guns, bombs, and other sophisticated weaponry to attack and conquer the Na'vi (who some think resemble American Indians and Africans), despite the fact that they represent no direct threat to the inhabitants of Earth. Since humans can't breathe in Pandora's atmosphere, the military employs mind-controlled avatars that resemble the Na'vi in every way to venture out from their landing craft and explore the landscape. Sympathizing with the Na'vi after becoming acquainted with them and their customs, one of the human-controlled avatars becomes a turncoat and helps lead the people of Pandora in the defense of their homeland.

Are you beginning to get a sense of why some viewers noticed what they believe are underlying messages in the film?

Some prominent members of the media who screened the film certainly took note. In a glowing review for the Chicago Sun-Times, Roger Ebert noted that "Avatar" "has a flat-out Green and anti-war message" that is "predestined to launch a cult." Meanwhile Ben Hoyle, writing in the Times of London, noted that the film "contains heavy implicit criticism of America's conduct in the War on Terror." Further, Will Heaven of the Daily Telegraph said that the plot line involving people of color who wear "tribal" jewelry while sporting dreadlocked hair, being saved by a noble white man gave the film a "racist subtext" that he found "nauseatingly patronising."

But are these hidden messages really all that hidden? James Cameron himself hasn't been shy in publicly proclaiming the fact that he's an environmental activist who believes that humans and "industrial society" are "causing a global climate change" and "destroying species faster than we can classify them." In a recent interview with PBS' Tavis Smiley, Cameron admitted that he made "obvious" references in the film to Iraq, Vietnam and the American colonial period to emphasize the fact that humans have a "terrible history" of "entitlement" in which we "take what we need" from nature and indigenous peoples "and don't give back."

Further, one of the film's stars Stephen Lang told CNN that he is "not surprised at all" that some people have taken note of the film's political messages, mainly because the central theme of humans "destroying" a "pristine world" out of "blindness and greed" is so "overt."

Despite the obvious political undertones in "Avatar," at least one right-leaning critic doesn't think people who disagree with the film's ideology should totally dismiss it. In his review on the website Hot Air, Ed Morrissey writes, "Conservatives have more or less primed themselves to hate this film because of the presumed anti-war politics of the movie. It's there -- in fact, it's unmistakable -- but it's not as bad as one might presume." He goes on to note that "Avatar" is "entertaining" though "hardly a deep intellectual exercise."
One of the links in the above review led to this site:

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/w...-a-stylish-film-marred-by-its-racist-subtext/

James Cameron's Avatar is a stylish film marred by its racist subtext

By Will Heaven
Last updated: December 22nd, 2009

Avatar was a spectacle, I’ll grant you that. The film’s 230-million-dollar budget guaranteed extravagant and often beautiful 3D special effects. But as I left the cinema last night, I couldn’t help questioning the weird mind behind it all. Was it James Cameron’s intention to be so nauseatingly patronising? And how could the famously Left-wing director have failed to pick up on his film’s racist subtext?

I won’t spoil the plot, but here’s the basic set-up: a group of mercenary humans have colonised a faraway planet, called Pandora, in order to extract an enormously valuable mineral found there. Pandora’s “natives” – a race of tall, blue-skinned aliens called the Na’vi – live on an area of land which is set to be mined. They won’t relocate, so the humans attack.

But the Na’vi aren’t your average extra-terrestrials. Blue skin aside, they’re essentially a childish pastiche of the “ethnic”, with recognisably human features. They wear Maasai-style necklaces and beaded jewellery which Cameron has borrowed from tribal East Africa. Their long, dark hair is dreadlocked. Their clothes are apparently Amerindian. They are armed with bows and poisoned arrows, and wear facepaint into battle. The main Na’vi characters are voiced by four black actors: Zoë Saldaña, C. C. H. Pounder, Laz Alonso and Peter Mensah; as well as one Cherokee, Wes Studi. The evil humans, needless to say, are white, male and middle-aged.

James Cameron has been very open about the politics behind Avatar. It’s about how “greed and imperialism tend to destroy the environment,” he said in a recent interview. “It’s a way of looking back on ourselves from this other world.”

If we look at his version of our planet, however, the view is overwhelmingly repellent. Pandora is to Cameron what Africa was to Joseph Conrad – it’s another, fictional ‘Heart of Darkness’, a place where a cruel imperial power subjects what is (perhaps unwittingly) depicted as a lesser race. Chinua Achebe, Conrad’s fiercest critic, wrote that “Heart of Darkness projects the image of Africa as ‘the other world,’ the antithesis of Europe and therefore of civilization, a place where man’s vaunted intelligence and refinement are finally mocked by triumphant bestiality.” Almost the exact same could be said of Avatar.

Take, for example, the relationship between the ethnic Na’vi and the animals which inhabit Pandora. Every interaction between them involves an act of quasi-consummation. The “natives” attach a spindly appendage to whatever raging animal they are trying to tame, resulting in a short struggle followed by an almost post-coital quiet. In another scene, one of the Na’vi is warned not to play with the same appendage or, he is told, “you’ll go blind.” The hint is heavy enough – it’s the same “triumphant bestiality” which Achebe criticised in Heart of Darkness.

By far the most contemptible theme in Avatar involves the hero, a young disabled American called Jake Sully, played by Sam Worthington. Before the humans declare war on the Na’vi, Sully is sent to them (in the form of a blue-skinned avatar) in a last ditch attempt to find a diplomatic solution. But, lo and behold, he becomes one of them – sympathising so much with their plight that he decides to lead them into battle against the humans.

As Left-wing conceits go, this one surely tops all the others: the ethnic Na’vi, the film suggests, need the white man to save them because, as a less developed race, they lack the intelligence and fortitude to overcome their adversaries by themselves. The poor helpless natives, in other words, must rely on the principled white man to lead them out of danger.

Yuck. And there I was, thinking this sort of patronising world-view was dying out. But plainly it lives on in Hollywood. Avatar is artistic evidence of the ugly mindset which underlies so much of Left-wing thinking today: the belief that only the superior Western liberal is fit to lead the world into a better future. Other than a whole lot of style, this is all Cameron’s film has to offer – so I make that 230 million dollars wasted.
 

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You're right, but the movie is so well executed that it thoroughly transcends its simple little treehugger plot (Indians good, mining companies bad).

It's a great movie that temporarily made me forget what a lazy retarded shit-factory hollywood is nowadays.
It's cool to see something different and out from the ordinary from Hollywood these days. Like in the case of Avatar, the fastest movie in history to reach the Billion Dollar mark. The first one was " Titanic ". James Cameron is the King of Hollywood once again. That means he can get anything he wishes for from any studio and film investors. Plus, when you do something out of the ordinary as well like what that Memphis family did in Blind Side, you also end up with a $ 200 Million blockbuster as well. I love that movie, still shows that there are still really good people out there. However, not all movies do good, Leap Year which is showing today will surely bomb in the box office this weekend.
 

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When I watched it in Imax 3D even though we were over an hour early the best seats we could get were in the bottom lower half on the side. I went into the movie with no preconceived notions as I hadn't even seen a preview. I like the story but not so much the army part. I had to look away for about 1/4 of the movie because I felt nauseous. I cried when the tree got taken out.
 

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Vatican criticizes 'Avatar'

I found another interesting perspective here:

http://vancouver.24hrs.ca/Entertainment/2010/01/12/12432931.html

Vatican criticizes 'Avatar'
By Alessandra Rizzo, THE ASSOCIATED PRESS

VATICAN CITY — The Vatican newspaper and radio station have called the film “Avatar” simplistic, and criticized it for flirting with modern doctrines that promote the worship of nature as a substitute for religion.

L’Osservatore Romano and Vatican Radio dedicated ample coverage to James Cameron’s big-grossing, 3-D spectacle. But the reviews were lukewarm, calling the movie superficial in its eco-message, despite groundbreaking visual effects.

L’Osservatore said the film “gets bogged down by a spiritualism linked to the worship of nature.” Similarly, Vatican Radio said it “cleverly winks at all those pseudo-doctrines that turn ecology into the religion of the millennium.”

“Nature is no longer a creation to defend, but a divinity to worship,” the radio said.

Vatican spokesman the Rev. Federico Lombardi said that while the movie reviews are just that — film criticism, with no theological weight — they do reflect Pope Benedict XVI’s views on the dangers of turning nature into a “new divinity.”

Benedict has often spoken about the need to protect the environment, earning the nickname of “green pope.” But he has sometimes balanced that call with a warning against neo-paganism.

In a recent World Day of Peace message, the pontiff warned against any notions that equate human person and other living things. He said such notions “open the way to a new pantheism tinged with neo-paganism, which would see the source of man’s salvation in nature alone.”

The Vatican newspaper occasionally likes to comment in its cultural pages on movies or pop culture icons, as it did recently about “The Simpsons” or U2. In one famous instance, several Vatican officials spoke out against “The Da Vinci Code.”

In this case, the reviews came out after a red carpet preview held in Rome just a stone’s throw from St. Peter’s Square. The movie will be released Friday in Italy.

The story of the tall blue creatures who inhabit Pandora and contend with humans intent on grabbing the resources of their planet has made over $1.1 billion at box offices worldwide. Partly boosted by higher 3-D ticket prices, “Avatar” looks well on its way to becoming the biggest grossing movie of all time.

“So much stupefying, enchanting technology, but few genuine emotions,” said L’Osservatore Romano, which devoted three articles to “Avatar” in its Sunday editions.

L’Osservatore Romano said the movie’s plot is unoriginal and its message not new. It faulted Cameron for taking a “bland approach.”

“He tells the story without going deep into it, and ends up falling into sappiness,” it said.

Vatican Radio did say, however, that “really never before have such surprising images been seen,” while L’Osservatore said the movie’s worth lies in its “extraordinary visual impact.”
 
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I wear glasses and I'm wondering if it's possible to wear the 3D glasses on top of, or over, my glasses? :confused: :confused: Can this be done or should I not bother seeing this movie in theatres and just wait for its release on DVD? :confused:

Thanks.
I also wear glasses and have never had any issues with wearing a theaters 3D glasses over my own. The 3D in Avatar is some of the best I've ever seen and it wasn't an issue for me. If you plan on watching it once, I would recommend watching it in 3D theatrically.
 

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Terrible writing, but worth the money to see.

The babe in Pocahontas was hotter.
Pretty much like Star Wars when it comes to terrible writing and great and modern SCI-FI effects. Star Wars was not original too but no one gave a fly in space about it. I guess after making more than a billion it has to go with the territory.

James Cameron will make two sequels after this. It took him 15 years and 500 Million bucks to make this Avatar movie happen. I guess my hair will be grey by the time I watch the 3rd one. :)
 

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Be grateful that you would, at least, still have hair. I don't think I'd have any hair left by that time--my hair is thinning everyday; plus, I may not even be alive by that time.
Just exaggerating the length of the first one, James Cameron has already proven himself, he already has the funding this time around for the franchise sequel. It will be made in less than 24 months. FOX would love to make an ROI instantly.
 

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I saw it on the first week,but in a non 3-D theatre. Great/long/ surreal world. Action,and religion? This may be the movie to break the Titanic all time box-office record.But I don't see how women will see it 9x or more like Leo/Kate love sunk ship. Sci-Fi movies are for guys/geeks. Cameron has expressed not one ,but two sequels. The new millenium Lord of the Rings.
The Blu-Ray version will include how the Navi have sex.
 

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Actually the plots that it imitated (copied/ripped-off) seemed most to me to be "Dances With Wolves" meets "Last Samurai" meets "Alien" meets "Matrix". But it's been said, the duping of every major film with the script was ON PURPOSE by Cameron.
 

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Adriana✿;984987 said:
Do i really have to go to Richmond to see it in 3D at the Imax. I guess Canada Place and now the Science Center Imax is closed. GRRRRR olympics.
No...i went and saw it at the Coquitlam Silvercity..was awesome in 3d there..
 
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