Another idiotic Adrienne Clarkson moment

[Marvin]

Holy crap! The more I hear of Adrienne Clarkson's actions and suggestions, the more I am convinced she is giant waste of OUR taxpayers money as Governor General. Can't we appoint anyone better that this useless waste of space?

http://www.cbc.ca/story/sports/national/2005/02/22/Sports/clarkson_stanleycup05022.html

Governor General wants women to compete for Cup
WebPosted Tue, 22 Feb 2005 09:36:34 EST
Canadian Governor General Adrienne Clarkson doesn't think the Stanley Cup should be a casualty in the war between the NHL's owners and players.

Clarkson believes if the NHL isn't going to use the trophy this season, it should be freed from the league's clutches and contested in a showdown between the world's best women's hockey teams – the Canadian and U.S. national squads.

Could Hayley Wickenheiser, left, hoist the Stanley Cup in 2005?
"I think the Stanley Cup is so important to Canadians. It's our game and the Stanley Cup symbolizes that," explained Clarkson Tuesday in an interview with CBC Newsworld.

But Cassie Campbell, who plays on Canada's national team and for the Oval Extremes in Calgary, says she'd rather see women's hockey get its own cup.

"For us, it's about fighting to have our own championship and one that's eventually going to be just as prestigious as the Stanley Cup is now," Campbell said. "Hopefully we have an NHL-type season and we have more teams across the country and across North America, and that's where my connection is."

The Canadian and American hockey teams have met in the women's gold-medal game of the last two Olympics. Millions across the country celebrated when Team Canada won at the 2002 Winter Games in Salt Lake City.

"In Salt Lake City we all realized women's hockey was important," said Clarkson. "It was women at their very, very best and I would love to see that rewarded."

In Clarkson's opinion, the Canadian-American Stanley Cup showdown would draw a huge audience and also encourage more young girls to play hockey.

Clarkson feels Canadians would support the idea, because they appreciate the game at its highest levels of competition.

"It's not like we're saying to some little minor league 'why don't you win the Stanley Cup.' We're talking about excellence in hockey. I think Canadians care about that."

When NHL commissioner Gary Bettman announced last Wednesday the labour stalemate between the owners and the players' union left him no choice but to cancel the hockey season, it meant for the first time in 86 years the Stanley Cup wouldn't be awarded.

The trophy has been handed out every year since 1919 when an epidemic of the Spanish flu wiped out the finals.

"I wouldn't want to see [the Stanley Cup] miss another year," Clarkson said.

Clarkson, in an interview with the Globe and Mail, says she feels it's her duty to fulfill the wishes of her predecessor Lord Stanley of Preston, the Governor-General who donated the beloved trophy.

In 1893, Lord Stanley purchased the silver-bowl trophy for about $50 and put it in the care of two trustees. The Cup was to be awarded to the best hockey team in the Dominion of Canada.

The Montreal AAA squad won the first Stanley Cup. The Ottawa Senators, Toronto Arenas and Vancouver Millionaires have also claimed the trophy. But since 1926, the Stanley Cup has been awarded solely to the NHL champions. Formal care of the Cup was transferred to the top professional hockey league in 1947.

But earlier this year, Edmonton lawyer Roderick Payne challenged the NHL's monopoly on the Stanley Cup, claiming independent trustees, not the league, controlled the trophy.

Payne's interpretation was dismissed by Ontario Attorney General Michael Bryant, who determined the NHL has control of the Stanley Cup.

Clarkson says she hasn't had any contact with the Cup's trustees about the possibility of a challenge cup outside the auspices of the NHL. She believes it's up to the public to decide what should happen next.

"[The Stanley Cup] is so beyond 'just a little trophy,'" Clarkson said, "we have to see what Canadians want to do with it."

 

[timec99]

she's a piece of work - but not necessarily for this

Lord Stanley of Preston, the 16th Earl of Derby originally donated the Cup as an award for Canada's top-ranking amateur hockey club: "I have for some time been thinking that it would be a good thing if there were a challenge cup which should be held from year to year by the champion hockey team in the Dominion." "There does not appear to be any such outward sign of a championship at present, and considering the general interest which matches now elicit, and the importance of having the game played fairly and under rules generally recognized, I am willing to give a cup which shall be held from year to year by the winning team."

Gradually the field that was challenging for the Cup narrowed when in 1914 the Cup trustees announced that the fight would be between the champion from the eastern professional National Hockey Association (formed in 1910), and the western professional Pacific Coast Hockey Association (formed in 1912). In 1917 the National Hockey League that we know today was formed and in 1926 a tradition was born with the NHL playoffs deciding the winner of the Stanley Cup - the trophy for the best professional hockey team in North America.

--- a tradition! who says it's a NHL only Cup - if the boys aren't playing for it this year, let the girls

 

[Marvin]

A <B><i>tradition</b></i> with legal implications:

However, the NHL trustees say there's <b>only one league</b> that gets to compete for hockey's holy grail.

<b>"One of the terms of our agreement with the NHL is that they would be responsible for the care of the trophy and set the terms of competition,"</b> says trustee Brian O'Neill.

The cup has been the top prize in hockey since Lord Stanley donated it in 1893. It became the NHL's top prize in 1926. That was solidified in a 1947 <b>agreement with the league</b>.

Lord Stanley's great, great grandson knows that <b>legally, it's become the exclusive domain of the NHL</b>.


http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/1109126505075_60/?hub=Canada

All-female Stanley Cup idea gets shot down
CTV.ca News Staff

There wasn't much support for Governor General Adrienne Clarkson's idea that women's hockey teams play for the Stanley Cup now that the NHL is temporarily shut down.

She wanted the Canadian women's national team to play their U.S. counterparts.

There will be no Stanley Cup playoffs this spring. The NHL announced the cancellation of its 2004-05 season last week.

"The women's league ... should be the ones we could have the Stanley Cup given to for this year," she said.

"I think somebody here is suffering from a serious case of permanent jet lag," sneered Don Phelps, coach of the Calgary Canucks, on Tuesday. "I think it's about as revolting as inviting women to the NHL training camp."

But one Calgary fan told CTV News, "The NHL, they're not playing and all they seem to be interested in is money so, why not give it to someone who deserves it?"

However, the NHL trustees say there's only one league that gets to compete for hockey's holy grail.

"One of the terms of our agreement with the NHL is that they would be responsible for the care of the trophy and set the terms of competition," says trustee Brian O'Neill.

<B>While members of Canada's national women's hockey love Lord Stanley's mug, they don't necessarily want to play for it.</B>

"I grew up watching and playing in the streets pretending like I was hoisting the Cup, but I think it's a trophy that should be won by NHL players," says Cassie Campbell, who helped the Canadian women's Olympic team win gold in Salt Lake City three years ago.

The cup has been the top prize in hockey since Lord Stanley donated it in 1893. It became the NHL's top prize in 1926. That was solidified in a 1947 agreement with the league.

Lord Stanley's great, great grandson knows that legally, it's become the exclusive domain of the NHL.

"I think that he would be completely amazed and staggered to hear that it wasn't being played because of a debate over a salary cap," said Edward Derby, the Earl of Derby.

The current Lord Stanley is six-year-old Edward -- who authorized his dad to speak on his behalf.

"The easy no-go solution is that it just stays with last year's winning team," the earl said.

With a report from CTV's Scott Laurie

 

[timec99]

for chrissakes - Free Stanley!

 

[Marvin]

for chrissakes - Free Stanley!

OK Adrienne, we'll take your suggestion under advisement.

 

[LonelyGhost]

OK Adrienne, we'll take your suggestion under advisement.

maybe the women's teams can play for Adrienne and the loser has to take her back home!!!

 

[donnyknotts]

Tradition?

WTF?

So its tradition, is it, that says the NHL decides who's the annual winner of the Stanley Cup? What nonsense, Lord Stanley wanted to award a trophy to the best team in the Dominion.

Dominion. Yes, that means Canada.

Lately the cup has spent more time in the good ol' USA. This is certainly what Lord Stanley had it mind, eh?

Thanks to the money hungry idiots who run the NHL, Canada has lost it's hockey cup. The Stanley Cup ends up sitting in a country that places hockey somewhere below croquet in terms of importance in sports.

I say bring it back and give it to the girls, or whoever, as long as its the best team in the Dominion.

F*** the NHL.

 

[timec99]

fawkin hey donny - free Stanley!

Earth to Marvin, Earth to Marvin, come in Marvin --- Marvin, lighten up

 

[hardup]

NHL......who?

Everybody knows that Adrienne is a bit out of touch, a priss and a shopaholic and I would like to see her gone. BUT this is not the worst idea I've ever heard. Think the nhlpa and all the players would take notice if their coveted trophy was awarded to the women this year or even the winner of a amateur tournament made up of the players that were screwed out of the draft this year.

 

[Marvin]

Dominion. Yes, that means Canada.

Actually, it doesn't anymore since <b>Canada</b> got its soverignty in 1982 under the Constitution Act, the term Dominion is no longer correct.

maybe the women's teams can play for Adrienne and the loser has to take her back home!!!

Amen to that LG!

Earth to Marvin, Earth to Marvin, come in Marvin --- Marvin, lighten up

Sure thing, Adrienne.

 

[Marvin]

I can see why a lot fans are pissed at the lockout and resulting cancellation of the season, but my beef is with Clarkson, who, supposedly an education twit, doesn't do her due diligence or research before opening up her cake-hole.

The cup has been the top prize in hockey since Lord Stanley donated it in 1893. It became the NHL's top prize in 1926. That was solidified in a 1947 <b>agreement</b> with the league.

Had she taken a few minutes to ask an assistant to check on the feasibility of such an idea, it would have been very apparent that there are legal ramifications attached to the cup. When buying a house, wouldn't you perform basic due dilgence to guarantee your investment? Hey Adrienne, open mouth and insert other foot!

 

[dirtydan]

I don't have a problem with what "Mrs. John Ralston Saul" has said. It beats putting on Lord Stan's cup: 2004-05: "No cup awarded beacuse of a labour dispute." Give Clarkson credit for being original. Give her pr hacks credit for making Clarkson sound original.

But the real problem is too many people can't see past the anti-Clarkson propaganda being generated largely by the Tories. Like very well trained seals the general public rambles on and on about the money the GG's office is spending. Yet the politicians that complained the loudest only had the balls to cut the GG's budget by $400K or one measely percent. Gees that was sure telling her!

I don't care much for Clarkson, never did even when she was on the Fifth Estate many years ago. I don't care much for the office of Governor-General.
Even more, I hate the obvious bullshit created by the Tories in regards to her. Such junk is clouding the judgement of others.

 

[The Lizard King]

How about the top CANADIAN team in major junior getting the Stanley Cup while the winner of the Memorial Cup still gets it, Canadian or American. The week or weekend after the Mem Cup is the Stanley Cup tourney and could involve the same 4 teams, if all were Canadian, or you could sub the last Canadian team(s) beaten by a U.S. team to round out the 4.

 

[HankQuinlan]

She is definitely NOT crazy due to this idea (women could compete for it along with winners of other leagues - junior, university, whatever). Why shouldn't the Cup be awarded to the best team that can be found? The idiots that run the NHL shouldn't be playing dog-in-the-manger just because they don't want to play this year. Fuck the NHL. They can have it back when they play again, if they ever do.

The people and media that could benefit from a Stanley Cup playoff are crazy not to fight for the idea. What if a team from Kenora or Prince George or whereever caught the national attention in playoffs? The arenas and broadcasters and whoever could get back to work. Free Stanley!

 

[Cock Throppled]

Unfortunately what's really behind this is a plan by the leech to eventually have a cup that will permanently carry her name so we never get rid of her presence. Paid for by us, of course.At least Lord Stanley paid for the original cup himself, I believe.

 

[blizzard]

I think the women's teams should play for it and I back it 100%. Once those NHL yahoos realise that 'girls' wil be playing for their prized trophy, the CBA will be done in a day.

DOn't you guys want to see that?

 

[donnyknotts]

Hey Marvin

No thanks for the history lesson, I don't need one from you. When Lord Stanley donated the Cup, the country was known as The Dominion of Canada. Now that it's known simply as Canada, doesn't change the fact that the Cup was to be awarded to the best here, not the f***in' USA.

The USA already prides itself as the biggest and best in just about every damn thing under the sun, and doesn't really give two s***s about the Stanley Cup, (outside of a couple of Northeastern cities). Bring it back and award it to a Canadian team, women, men, pros, amateurs or whatever. And while we're at it, bring the game back to those who appreciate it.

 

[massageseeker]

It will never be done..

It will be in the legal courts for years, by that time the league will be playing again.

in 1947 the NHL was made trustees of the cup. Since then they call the shots, now the public is challenging that b/c they should not have had the right in 47' to make themselves the trustee's.

Nevertheless, who should play.. who with the womans.. USA say NL league Womans... WTF its supp. to be best of the best.. I am not saying Females shouldnt play or anyone for that matter...but if someone does it should be handed down to the next best league...

All in all Tampa is the defending champions so they should have the right to defend it. Some would argue that they do not exist anymore due to work stoppage. Hmmm.. then it would be the next best team or league assembled which would probably be in the WHL maybe the AHL, but most likely WHL since its a cup of canada..

or Domiion whatever.. but still wouldprobably go to WHL versus most others.

 

[qwerty]

I have to say the Stanley Cup should only be won by the best 'NHL' team. It would be a joke for a bunch of women or even Juniors who couln't compete at the level it really takes to win the cup. If and I mean if it was necessary to award the cup this year I think the most apropriate competition would be the up-coming worlds, however, the owners would never allow the players, whom they are at war with, get their hands on it until there is a CBA.

 

[massageseeker]

I would not argue with that..

Some say it should be a league of distributed players... but it wont be done.. nothing will it will be a blanked year for names to be scrathed on