Ann Coulter with her pants down!

[LonelyGhost]

luckydog,

when the US finally wins a war they can brag about how well they 'defend' themselves compared to Canada.

as the richest nation on the planet, the US could do a great deal of good ... instead it produces ignorant braggarts and bullies and invades countries for purely economic reasons.

George Bush is nothing but a charismatic dictator and you are no better than a brown shirt who believes ignorance is a virtue defensible by violence.

Take a look at your own country before you criticize others'.

 

[luckydog71]

Now there are my northern freinds I know and love.

 

[BushPilot]

Arguably one of the sexiest angry women on TV; she was caught with her pants down last week Video

I'd hit it!

You've got to be drunk if you find that woman attractive. Besides her dodgy politics, she's undeniably butt ugly, to boot.

 

[Herb_The_Perb]

Canada has a major and genuine role to play in international affairs, but military engagements is not one of them. These are better left to USA, Britain and Australia.

Don't forget Poland!

 

[Herb_The_Perb]

Maury, thanks for the 1812-15 history lesson. I knew some of those things, but not very many. Is there a good book on the subject that you could recommend?

As to Ann Coulter, she's notorious for being inflammatory, inaccurate, and reckless with facts. She's merely a propagandist for American neo-fascism. Anyone who can take this darling of the insane far right seriously isn't deserving of a reasonable paerson's attention.

 

[HeMadeMeDoIt]

"The insane right" thought the same when the insane left wing nutters and pinkies voted for Svend Robinson 5 or 6 terms!

LD is right! Canada does not have much of an army nor would we be able to defend our borders if we had to. I am not critical of our Men in uniform but of the Morons who would rather spend $2 billion on a useless gun registry to satisfy their liberal urban constituents than on our ailing undefunded military.

Guys spare me the she's ugly crap, I've seen what some of you have hit! LOL

 

[dittman]

maybe so bp but you would do her in a heart beat

 

[dittman]

actually herb you should read her books, she is funny articulate, a hate liberal bomb thrower, abd the one thing that she is noted for even in the liberal-pinko press is her research and how when she puts facts on paper how accurate it is.

 

[dittman]

LD had it right the first time, as of this date 2/08/05 the canadien armed forces would be hard pressed to defend vancouver island let alone all of canada. It doesnt matter how well trained an army is, if they dont have modern equip. or the manpower they dont have what it takes to accomplish their mission.

Ann coulter was right and wrong. There was approx. 10-12,000 canadiens that enlisted in the u.s military during the viet nam era of that number approx. 3,000 served in viet nam. with approx. 25% of that number becoming casulties.

Maury that is pretty sad that you have to go back almost 200 years ago. Besides most of the heavy lifting was done by the brits. Also even though we had gotten our independence from the brits in 1776 the u.s at the time still had a very weak central govt. but i digress.

and chuck that is pretty sill saying that its almost like saying my dad can beat up your dad.

 

[Bull]

 

[HeMadeMeDoIt]

luckydog,

when the US finally wins a war they can brag about how well they 'defend' themselves compared to Canada.

as the richest nation on the planet, the US could do a great deal of good ... instead it produces ignorant braggarts and bullies and invades countries for purely economic reasons.

George Bush is nothing but a charismatic dictator and you are no better than a brown shirt who believes ignorance is a virtue defensible by violence.

Take a look at your own country before you criticize others'.

Was it my imagination or did Emperor Hirohito surrender to Douglas MacArthur unconditionally on a US aircraft carrier?

Is it my imagination that Saddam was thrashed rounds I & II? Granted there was a coalition in both instances but the burden and the effort was largely American afterall why would it have been commanded by a US General (Norman Shwarzkoph) if it wasn't??

The US does do a great deal of good when called upon, we dont have to look further than the boxing day tsunami to see what they did and will continue to do. Even closer than that is Jan 30th when as a result of their "invasion for purely economic reasons" of Iraq the first democratic election in over 50 yrs was held in that country (unless of course you consider Saddam's 100% endorsement by the people a democratic election)

George Bush is a once supreme court appointed and once democratically elected president We dont need to look further than our own borders to see how dictator like Jean Chretien was!

 

[donnyknotts]

Lets get some perspective here. The US is motivated by greed not altruism. Even in its donation to Tsunami relief we can see this. The amount of relief was equivalent to a day and a half of what the US is currently spending in Iraq, which is now approaching 700 days.

And don't forget the Canadian contribution in the Afganistan action (European and UN approved) which resulted in 4 dead canadians--from a trigger happy American pilot!

Do we need a better army? No. A bigger army? Yes. Better equipped? Yes. Unsolicited advice from Americans? Hell no!

 

[dittman]

well gee donny we thought we might act like you canadiens and give you adviced not asked for.

 

[Maury Beniowski]

Herb, just do a search on the War of 1812, and you’ll get reams of information for that event. I plagiarized a little bit of my diatribe, but the content is factual. And it was done with tongue planted firmly in cheek.

As for my take on the association with current events, criticizing Canada’s defense spending is an old red herring that is farcical at best. When Canada has been called in the past to pony up personnel and money to defend a “just cause”, it has and has been way ahead of the US in response time. It took almost two years to get the Americans involved in the Second World War, and then only after they were spanked in the Pacific by the Japanese.

Canada's contribution to the Second World War was a remarkable achievement for a relatively small nation. A total of 1,136,999 soldiers, sailors, and airmen (and airwomen), served in the Armed Forces. Of these, 32,714 would be killed in action; 9,329 would die of other causes; and 54,414 would be injured; 8,995 would spend some time in a prisoner of war camp. And this, from a Nation of 22 Million citizens.

Our Navy was the third largest at the end of the conflict. And you have to admit, the enemy, or the Axis anyway was mightier than Iraq, and the cause was nobler than the current one by a stretch. America is involved in a self-serving crusade, and has managed to enlist a bevy of Nations alongside, mostly by bullying them into it, or promising them some economic gain. Look how easily they withdraw when one of their citizens are taken hostage.

The US is notorious for getting wrapped up in the wrong conflicts. Some things never change.

 

[BushPilot]

maybe so bp but you would do her in a heart beat

I most certainly would not. I agree with the above comment about her looking like a transvestite. She'd have to pay me for the pleasure. As for the accuracy of her research? We saw how well she prepares her arguments from the video clip at the beginning of the thread. And the fact that Canadian citizens volunteered in the US forces in Vietnam in no way implies that Canada as a nation was involved. If you want to make that argument, then we have to say that the US was involved in the Spanish civil war since we all know that Earnest Hemingway went and fought as a volunteer.

And oh yeah, dittman, me too.

 

[luckydog71]

Lets get some perspective here. The US is motivated by greed not altruism. Even in its donation to Tsunami relief we can see this.

donny - the US could have spent our entire GNP for the year and it would not have satisfied you and many like you. So we do what we think is right and turn our deaf ear when you talk.

And don't forget the Canadian contribution in the Afghanistan action (European and UN approved) which resulted in 4 dead Canadians--from a trigger happy American pilot!

There is no doubt about Canada's participation in Afghanistan. And there is no doubt the pilot made a horrible mistake. I do not want to minimize the tragedy or shift blame. The American pilot was wrong. But if the Canadian troops would have modern equipment that provide positive ID to fighter aircraft, MAYBE the pilot would have realized his error in time to avoid the mistake.

Do we need a better army? No. A bigger army? Yes. Better equipped? Yes. Unsolicited advice from Americans? Hell no!

Donny I was not giving advice, I was stating fact and my opinion based on those facts. Canada has an ineffective Armed Forces (fact). Canada is not capable of defending Vancouver island (my opinion).

Advise would have been to tell you what to do and how to do it. I will leave that chore for you, because you are so well practiced.

 

[Maury Beniowski]

The US should stick to doing what it is best at, making money and making gadgets - the non-warfaring kind. It really is not very good at making war. In fact very few modern Nations are. You have to go back far in history to find Nations that were. Great Britain was, France under Napoleon was, so was Rome under Julius Caesar, but in the end, nepotism and corruption took over, and everyone knows what happened then.

 

[luckydog71]

The US should stick to doing what it is best at, making money and making gadgets - the non-warfaring kind. It really is not very good at making war. In fact very few modern Nations are. You have to go back far in history to find Nations that were. Great Britain was, France under Napoleon was, so was Rome under Julius Caesar, but in the end, nepotism and corruption took over, and everyone knows what happened then.

Every empire has been crushed by its own weight. I do not think any were conquered while they were at their peak.

I do believe the US could be in that situation now, being crushed by our own weight. We subsidize poorly run companies (the airlines is just one good example). We provide welfare to lazy bastards that wont get a job. Our politicians spend money like a drunk sailor, bragging how much pork they bring to their state from federal coffers.

Hell we even build huge arenas with my money, so Canadian hockey players can flee their country and earn millions of dollars playing a sport that is better played by kids.

Soon it will be too late to turn this around.

 

[charles]

But if the Canadian troops would have modern equipment that provide positive ID to fighter aircraft, MAYBE the pilot would have realized his error in time to avoid the mistake.

Shifting blame is fun, ain't it?

 

[Herb_The_Perb]

Canada's contribution to the Second World War was a remarkable achievement for a relatively small nation. A total of 1,136,999 soldiers, sailors, and airmen (and airwomen), served in the Armed Forces. Of these, 32,714 would be killed in action; 9,329 would die of other causes; and 54,414 would be injured; 8,995 would spend some time in a prisoner of war camp. And this, from a Nation of 22 Million citizens.

Actually, Maury, it's twice as impressive as you realize. Canada had a population of only 11.5 million in 1941. Thus, 10% of its people were in the armed forces.

In the last fifteen years, I saw two very interesting plays dealing with the effects of the war, promarily on the women who stayed home. One was set in the prairies (saw it in Los Angeles), and one was set in the pr4ecincts of Pier 23 (I think it was 23) in Halifax, where the play was performed. Both were very moving, and gave an insight into what that war meant for the country. It's safe to say that WWII took a greater toll, proportionately, on Canada than it did on the US. For one thing, Canada was in it longer.