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An Inconvenient Truth
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The Tennessee Center for Policy Research, an independent, nonprofit and nonpartisan research organization, issued a press release late Monday:
Last night, Al Gore’s global-warming documentary, An Inconvenient Truth, collected an Oscar for best documentary feature, but the Tennessee Center for Policy Research has found that Gore deserves a gold statue for hypocrisy.
Gore’s mansion, [20-room, eight-bathroom] located in the posh Belle Meade area of Nashville, consumes more electricity every month than the average American household uses in an entire year, according to the Nashville Electric Service (NES).
In his documentary, the former Vice President calls on Americans to conserve energy by reducing electricity consumption at home.
The average household in America consumes 10,656 kilowatt-hours (kWh) per year, according to the Department of Energy. In 2006, Gore devoured nearly 221,000 kWh—more than 20 times the national average.
Last August alone, Gore burned through 22,619 kWh—guzzling more than twice the electricity in one month than an average American family uses in an entire year. As a result of his energy consumption, Gore’s average monthly electric bill topped $1,359.
Since the release of An Inconvenient Truth, Gore’s energy consumption has increased from an average of 16,200 kWh per month in 2005, to 18,400 kWh per month in 2006.
Gore’s extravagant energy use does not stop at his electric bill. Natural gas bills for Gore’s mansion and guest house averaged $1,080 per month last year.
“As the spokesman of choice for the global warming movement, Al Gore has to be willing to walk to walk, not just talk the talk, when it comes to home energy use,” said Tennessee Center for Policy Research President Drew Johnson.
In total, Gore paid nearly $30,000 in combined electricity and natural gas bills for his Nashville estate in 2006.
Typical elitist liberal....tells us how to live but never does it apply to them.
Between this huge waste of natural energy, private jets, a fleet of SUV's to carry him around and he going to preach to me about the damage my truck does to the environment?
Gore you're a joke and everyone that believes your nonsense is also.
link:
http://www.drudgereport.com/flash.htm
Last night, Al Gore’s global-warming documentary, An Inconvenient Truth, collected an Oscar for best documentary feature, but the Tennessee Center for Policy Research has found that Gore deserves a gold statue for hypocrisy.
Gore’s mansion, [20-room, eight-bathroom] located in the posh Belle Meade area of Nashville, consumes more electricity every month than the average American household uses in an entire year, according to the Nashville Electric Service (NES).
In his documentary, the former Vice President calls on Americans to conserve energy by reducing electricity consumption at home.
The average household in America consumes 10,656 kilowatt-hours (kWh) per year, according to the Department of Energy. In 2006, Gore devoured nearly 221,000 kWh—more than 20 times the national average.
Last August alone, Gore burned through 22,619 kWh—guzzling more than twice the electricity in one month than an average American family uses in an entire year. As a result of his energy consumption, Gore’s average monthly electric bill topped $1,359.
Since the release of An Inconvenient Truth, Gore’s energy consumption has increased from an average of 16,200 kWh per month in 2005, to 18,400 kWh per month in 2006.
Gore’s extravagant energy use does not stop at his electric bill. Natural gas bills for Gore’s mansion and guest house averaged $1,080 per month last year.
“As the spokesman of choice for the global warming movement, Al Gore has to be willing to walk to walk, not just talk the talk, when it comes to home energy use,” said Tennessee Center for Policy Research President Drew Johnson.
In total, Gore paid nearly $30,000 in combined electricity and natural gas bills for his Nashville estate in 2006.
Typical elitist liberal....tells us how to live but never does it apply to them.
Between this huge waste of natural energy, private jets, a fleet of SUV's to carry him around and he going to preach to me about the damage my truck does to the environment?
Gore you're a joke and everyone that believes your nonsense is also.
link:
http://www.drudgereport.com/flash.htm
LOL! The sludgereport no less... you know who Drudge is... right (sorry, correct)?
carbon offsets Randy... carbon offsets! A zero footprint Randy, a zero footprint
1) Gore’s family has taken numerous steps to reduce the carbon footprint of their private residence, including signing up for 100 percent green power through Green Power Switch, installing solar panels, and using compact fluorescent bulbs and other energy saving technology.
2) Gore has had a consistent position of purchasing carbon offsets to offset the family’s carbon footprint — a concept the right-wing fails to understand. Gore’s office explains:
What Mr. Gore has asked is that every family calculate their carbon footprint and try to reduce it as much as possible. Once they have done so, he then advocates that they purchase offsets, as the Gore’s do, to bring their footprint down to zero.
2) Gore has had a consistent position of purchasing carbon offsets to offset the family’s carbon footprint — a concept the right-wing fails to understand. Gore’s office explains:
What Mr. Gore has asked is that every family calculate their carbon footprint and try to reduce it as much as possible. Once they have done so, he then advocates that they purchase offsets, as the Gore’s do, to bring their footprint down to zero.
Exactly. Wealthy people can by "indulgences" from the environmental clergy, and therefore enjoy a guiltfree "zero footprint," high pollution lifestyle.
Man, the zealot's hate for anyone who disagrees with them is astounding, ain't it? STILL going on about Gore, & how when he takes a limo that show's global warming is false (and the earth is flat and the sun revelves around the earth and tobacco don't cause cancer)...
Yeah, attacking Gore & Hollywood for raising awareness of an issue. But don;t tell people how to live, like the right wing heroes who insist:
* Gays are bad; gay marriage will destroy my marriage (that's why so many evangelist preachers get caught w/ their pants down)
* Rock 'n Roll is liscentious and will destroy our morals
* Civil Rights is a commie plot
* Not letting me discriminate against gays will destroy business & the nation's wealth
* Abortion must be outlawed as the fetus's right to live is more important than the mother's
* We'll let you know when you can follow the wishes of your brain-dead loved one
*giggles* tell us again how your great political knowledge leads you to think Gore is running for the presidency again?
Yeah, attacking Gore & Hollywood for raising awareness of an issue. But don;t tell people how to live, like the right wing heroes who insist:
* Gays are bad; gay marriage will destroy my marriage (that's why so many evangelist preachers get caught w/ their pants down)
* Rock 'n Roll is liscentious and will destroy our morals
* Civil Rights is a commie plot
* Not letting me discriminate against gays will destroy business & the nation's wealth
* Abortion must be outlawed as the fetus's right to live is more important than the mother's
* We'll let you know when you can follow the wishes of your brain-dead loved one
*giggles* tell us again how your great political knowledge leads you to think Gore is running for the presidency again?
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Why am I not surprised? Because, after all, you CAN fool some of the people ALL of the time...
The only real surprise is he couldn't find any cyrillic press releases on the issue...
Dept. of Revenue says conservative think tank ‘not a legitimate group’
By John Rodgers, February 16, 2007
The City Paper, Nashville, TN
The state’s Department of Revenue is refusing to respond to inquiries from a conservative watchdog organization over a controversial tax, labeling them “not a legitimate group.”
The Tennessee Center for Policy Research (TCPR), who bills themselves as an “independent, nonprofit and nonpartisan research and educational institute,” made the inquiries to different employees of the Department of Revenue in early January regarding the unauthorized substances tax’s budget.
A City Paper public records request revealed inner-department e-mails about the decision not to respond to the Tennessee Center for Policy Research or its executive director, Drew Johnson.
...
Reagan Farr, the new commissioner of the Department of Revenue, said the TCPR’s conservative ideology was not why their questions weren’t answered.
“Their complete lack of professionalism is why,” Farr said.
Just what came up real quick off the internet for anyone interested in the real story... "independent, nonprofit and nonpartisan " HAH! So was the Swiftboaters... so were all the reports from AEI, Cato Institute, Oil Industry United, Mothers for Another Global Ice Age, etc....
As w/ most of this drivel, a lie travels halfway round the world before the truth gets out of bed in the morning... see http://cupofjoepowell.blogspot.com/2007/02/smearing-al-gore-tcpr-way.html
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rollerboy, ya heathen! --- don’t you know a fundamental Judeo-Christian principle allows carbon offset redemption for environmental sinners. You wouldn’t be one of those islamo types, would ya rollerboy?
c’mon, offsets only for wealthy people… the poor must do without? Just because everyone can’t afford offsets does that make them wrong? You wouldn’t be one of those socialist types, would ya rollerboy?
You obviously are not able to see how Gore is leading people down the garden path.LOL! The sludgereport no less... you know who Drudge is... right (sorry, correct)?
carbon offsets Randy... carbon offsets! A zero footprint Randy, a zero footprint
1) Gore’s family has taken numerous steps to reduce the carbon footprint of their private residence, including signing up for 100 percent green power through Green Power Switch, installing solar panels, and using compact fluorescent bulbs and other energy saving technology.
2) Gore has had a consistent position of purchasing carbon offsets to offset the family’s carbon footprint — a concept the right-wing fails to understand. Gore’s office explains:
What Mr. Gore has asked is that every family calculate their carbon footprint and try to reduce it as much as possible. Once they have done so, he then advocates that they purchase offsets, as the Gore’s do, to bring their footprint down to zero.
The Drudge Report is a popular U.S.-based news website run by Matt Drudge. The site consists primarily of links to stories from the US and international mainstream media about politics, entertainment, and various current events as well as links to many popular columnists. Occasionally Drudge authors a story of his own. The Report originated around 1994 as a weekly subscriber-based email dispatch. It is most famous for being the first news source to break the Monica Lewinsky scandal to the public.LOL! The sludgereport no less... you know who Drudge is... right (sorry, correct)?
carbon offsets Randy... carbon offsets! A zero footprint Randy, a zero footprint
1) Gore’s family has taken numerous steps to reduce the carbon footprint of their private residence, including signing up for 100 percent green power through Green Power Switch, installing solar panels, and using compact fluorescent bulbs and other energy saving technology.
2) Gore has had a consistent position of purchasing carbon offsets to offset the family’s carbon footprint — a concept the right-wing fails to understand. Gore’s office explains:
What Mr. Gore has asked is that every family calculate their carbon footprint and try to reduce it as much as possible. Once they have done so, he then advocates that they purchase offsets, as the Gore’s do, to bring their footprint down to zero.
The Drudge Report is regarded as an important news outlet: Democratic Party strategist Chris Lehane says "phones start ringing" whenever Drudge breaks a story and Mark McKinnon, one of President George W. Bush's top advisors says he checks the site 30-40 times per day. ABC News concluded that the Drudge Report sets the tone for national political coverage.In The Way To Win, a book written by journalists Mark Halperin and John Harris, Drudge is called "the Walter Cronkite of his era."Matt Drudge has been criticized by other media news personalities: Bill O'Reilly who twice called Drudge a "threat to democracy", and Keith Olbermann who referred to Drudge as "an idiot with a modem".
Yeah I know who drudge is. Why is OTB - that you always criticize other people's source. I have seen you do it time & again. I will continue to look to drudge report for news items. If Its good enough for GWB, its good enough for me!!
I hope someday I can afford to pollute as much as Gore does. I'm tired of big shots always rubbing their expensive CO2 in my face.
I had a conversation with Al Gore today. I called to let him know I saw his movie and I am now convinced, man is the cause of global warming and global warming will cause major disasters. Therefore man will be the direct cause of huge destruction.
LD “ Al exactly what is man doing to cause global warming? “
AG huge sigh “Using too much energy which creates greenhouse gases.”
LD “So the logical conclusion man needs to reduce the amount of energy he uses.”
AG “Correct LD, I can not believe it took you so long to recognize the obvious.”
LD “But Al, I can not reduce my energy consumption. Is there anything else I do to stop global warming?”
AG another sigh “You are not paying attention. The answer is easy, pay some peasant in a 3rd world country some money and he gives you his carbon credits.”
LD “Cool and that saves the planet? “
AG “Of course, it is such simple logic.”
LD “This is great and it will work on other problems we have ?”
AG “really?”
LD “Speeding is a serious problem and is the cause of high death rates in traffic accidents.”
AG “So everyone must do their part and go slower.”
LD “Yes that is it…..Well except me of course….”
AG “Why do you not have to slow down?”
LD “Well I found this guy who lives in Spuzzum and he does not own a car. So I give him $100 a month and he gives me a speed credits.”
AG “A speed credit?”
LD “Yes, I use the speed he is not using so I can exceed the speed limit.”
AG “Cool. And that reduce deaths on the highway.”
LD “Of course, if it works for global warming it will work for speeding.”
AG “Wow, I am convinced and this could apply to solve many of our problems like world hunger; world unrest; maybe even it could get me elected president…… I mean re-elected President”
LD “ Al exactly what is man doing to cause global warming? “
AG huge sigh “Using too much energy which creates greenhouse gases.”
LD “So the logical conclusion man needs to reduce the amount of energy he uses.”
AG “Correct LD, I can not believe it took you so long to recognize the obvious.”
LD “But Al, I can not reduce my energy consumption. Is there anything else I do to stop global warming?”
AG another sigh “You are not paying attention. The answer is easy, pay some peasant in a 3rd world country some money and he gives you his carbon credits.”
LD “Cool and that saves the planet? “
AG “Of course, it is such simple logic.”
LD “This is great and it will work on other problems we have ?”
AG “really?”
LD “Speeding is a serious problem and is the cause of high death rates in traffic accidents.”
AG “So everyone must do their part and go slower.”
LD “Yes that is it…..Well except me of course….”
AG “Why do you not have to slow down?”
LD “Well I found this guy who lives in Spuzzum and he does not own a car. So I give him $100 a month and he gives me a speed credits.”
AG “A speed credit?”
LD “Yes, I use the speed he is not using so I can exceed the speed limit.”
AG “Cool. And that reduce deaths on the highway.”
LD “Of course, if it works for global warming it will work for speeding.”
AG “Wow, I am convinced and this could apply to solve many of our problems like world hunger; world unrest; maybe even it could get me elected president…… I mean re-elected President”
LOL - LD that's an excellent parody! One that hopefully will enable some of the slower types here understand what folly this credit system really is.
I don't know about anyone else, but a handful of dweebs patting each other on the back & repeating the same drivel from each other sure convinces me.
Of course, if you can possibly find some more reports from "unbiased" sources (directly funded by the oil industry if possible), or pull out some obscure, mystical document printed in cyrillic script, it would help.
& it really helps to flog a dead horse & keep fighting the right wing crusade against Gore. Shows your ideological purity.
*giggles* tell us again how your great political knowledge leads you to think Gore is running for the presidency again?
Of course, if you can possibly find some more reports from "unbiased" sources (directly funded by the oil industry if possible), or pull out some obscure, mystical document printed in cyrillic script, it would help.
& it really helps to flog a dead horse & keep fighting the right wing crusade against Gore. Shows your ideological purity.
*giggles* tell us again how your great political knowledge leads you to think Gore is running for the presidency again?
A handful of dweeds running around saying the Sky is falling..err...the world is coming to an end doesn't convince me either.
CL - I am not trying to convince you of anything... I am putting forward my position just like you are putting forward yours..
I do not have great political knowledge.... what I think I have is average middle class American worker guy common sense. Like most I am a conservative with strong libertarian beliefs.
I also doubt Gore will run for President. He may try to get the DEMS nomination, but he could not win the primary.
MANY readers profess puzzlement as to how carbon offsets could fail to reduce one's carbon footprint. The answer is that they probably do reduce one's carbon footprint, but by nowhere near the one-for-one ration that seems to be implied by the extraordinarily low price of carbon offsets. Unless they are implemented under a cap-and-trade system, these sorts of environmental efforts are plagued by something called the rebound effect, which is to say that using more efficient technologies causes the price to fall, which causes people to use more of the carbon-emitting substances in question. This is particularly true in markets for things like electricity, which are characterised by monopoly providers and extremely high fixed costs for existing plant, making it unlikely that carbon emitting generators will actually be taken offline (and made worse by the fact that the dirtiest power is supplied by the baseload plants, which are least likely to be taken offline). If you are salving your conscience by buying carbon offsets, which allows you to cheerfully emit 20 times more than the average person, then even a conservatively estimated rebound effect means that carbon offsets are increasing the amount of emissions.
Link:
http://www.economist.com/blogs/freeexchange/2007/03/a_tale_of_two_markets.cfm
Link:
http://www.economist.com/blogs/freeexchange/2007/03/a_tale_of_two_markets.cfm
It must be VOLDAR'S FAULT!
Mars is experiencing Global Warming at the same time the Earth is. Either the Martians are on the same Path of Destruction by exploiting some liquid remains of Martian Dinos. It couldn't be that the SUN is warming both planets.
That would make too much sense.
Simultaneous warming on Earth and Mars suggests that our planet's recent climate changes have a natural—and not a human- induced—cause, according to one scientist's controversial theory.
Earth is currently experiencing rapid warming, which the vast majority of climate scientists says is due to humans pumping huge amounts of greenhouse gases into the atmosphere.
Mars, too, appears to be enjoying more mild and balmy temperatures.
In 2005 data from NASA's Mars Global Surveyor and Odyssey missions revealed that the carbon dioxide "ice caps" near Mars's south pole had been diminishing for three summers in a row.
Habibullo Abdussamatov, head of the St. Petersburg's Pulkovo Astronomical Observatory in Russia, says the Mars data is evidence that the current global warming on Earth is being caused by changes in the sun.
"The long-term increase in solar irradiance is heating both Earth and Mars," he said....
link:
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2007/02/070228-mars-warming.html
Mars is experiencing Global Warming at the same time the Earth is. Either the Martians are on the same Path of Destruction by exploiting some liquid remains of Martian Dinos. It couldn't be that the SUN is warming both planets.
That would make too much sense.
Simultaneous warming on Earth and Mars suggests that our planet's recent climate changes have a natural—and not a human- induced—cause, according to one scientist's controversial theory.
Earth is currently experiencing rapid warming, which the vast majority of climate scientists says is due to humans pumping huge amounts of greenhouse gases into the atmosphere.
Mars, too, appears to be enjoying more mild and balmy temperatures.
In 2005 data from NASA's Mars Global Surveyor and Odyssey missions revealed that the carbon dioxide "ice caps" near Mars's south pole had been diminishing for three summers in a row.
Habibullo Abdussamatov, head of the St. Petersburg's Pulkovo Astronomical Observatory in Russia, says the Mars data is evidence that the current global warming on Earth is being caused by changes in the sun.
"The long-term increase in solar irradiance is heating both Earth and Mars," he said....
link:
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2007/02/070228-mars-warming.html
