An Idea: -The Sex Circle- Disabled people on fixed incomes and sex services

[PatrickGC]

For a long time now the issue of access to Service Providers for disabled people on fixed or low incomes [actually this can be applied to any one with scarce financial resources] has been of great concern because I'd truly see access to fulfilling sex as a human right. In addition Service Providers have the right to set the donation rates they individually so choose, it's their work and livelihood and that must be appreciated and respected by all involved. With these thoughts in mind, here's a "Donation Raising" idea for everyone to consider:

The idea is simple and actually goes back to when I bought my first stereo which at that time included a metal tape deck [okay I've just dated myself, in the date of cassette tapes "metal tape" was relatively high-end recording technology.] Back then I believe the tape deck itself cost around 500 bucks. So here's what my friends at work and I did:

We formed a group, each person committed to a set donation per month which would be combined and go into a pot. Which, in turn each of us would receive the total sum donated to the pot, to do with as we wished, buy stereo items, pay bills, etc.. We ended up simply calling this "the Circle" because that was literally how it functioned. It was done on a monthly basis so it did require everyone to be patient since there were about six of us in the group. But oh boy when your turn came around it was definitely worth the wait-" To the Stereo Store Batman!"

Anyway, smaller or larger circles could be formed and cycle through to each person at whenever rate is desired, every month, biweekly monthly etc.

2 key points

1. Everyone must agree to at the onset is that their regular donations are guaranteed. That is if the group meets monthly and a person has agreed to a $50 a month donation [or what ever timetable is set]. They have to be able to meet that responsibility.
2. Stay in the circle until it is gone at least one complete revolution. At that point the group can either choose to disband or stay together for another round.

People should also agree in what order the circle will go. In the case of a 4 member Circle rotating on a monthly basis, each month someone in the group would receive donations from 3 other people.

The circle does not have to cover the entire cost of what ever the person is planning to purchase. What the person does with the funds it completely up to them.

The end result is that Everyone benefits in a positive way

• Individually people needs are met by a talented service provider
• The service providers rates stay intact.
• Because funds are no longer an issue the client is going to benefit from the experience in a much healthier way.

True, it is not a perfect solution and does require patience unless the group can rotate through the circle rapid [weekly etc.] basis. But even if donations were at a $50 level within the group and the recipient could budget for putting in $100 of their own money when their turn came. In the four or five member Circle that would mean a total of $250-$300.

Any other thoughts ideas, feedback, etc.?

Take care,
PatrickGC

PS: I'm off-line for the weekend but will return Monday.

 

[Annalise Lane]

Am I reading this right ?

4 people in a circle contribute to a pot of money to be used to hire an escort ? Putting in 50/month for others to get laid ? And waiting 4 months for your turn to come around ?

~ why not save 50 dollars a month like most other gentleman and go it alone ?~ At the 200 rate you can get quality ladies you just have to hunt for them.

 

[gravitas]

For a long time now the issue of access to Service Providers for disabled people on fixed or low incomes [actually this can be applied to any one with scarce financial resources] has been of great concern because I'd truly see access to fulfilling sex as a human right.

No, "fulfilling sex" is not a human right. To suggest that is a intrinsic right means in some way the government should either be involved to insure people are getting laid or that the sex they're receiving meets an arbitrary standard. I can't imagine anything more destructive then getting bureaucrats involved in our bedrooms. Its a privilege that comes with its own obligations, responsibilities and risk.

The reality is that some people have healthy sex lives without SP's, with SP's or flying solo. Likewise the reality is that some people don't have healthy sex lives but I fail to see how anyone other than the individual is responsible to fix the situation. If you're suggesting that people on fixed incomes should in some way receive public funding to see SP's go and fuck yourself.

We ended up simply calling this "the Circle" because that was literally how it functioned

Thats one of the more retarded ideas I've ever heard of. If I want to buy something I'll buy it, if I don't have the money I'll save till I do. If I want to buy a friend a gift I'll do that. How throwing your money into a pot as suggested helps anyone escapes me, you're not money ahead and you'd be in the same situation if you just took your monthly donation and squirreled it away.

Any other thoughts ideas, feedback, etc.?

If I want to get laid I'll find an SP I'm interested in and pay to play, I'm not going to wait around till its my turn.

 

[badwolfcgy]

Grav. Blunt and to the point as always.
You could have a good future in diplomacy.

Today there was a good article on sex and the disabled in the Calgary Sun.

http://www.calgarysun.com/cgi-bin/publish.cgi?p=148994&x=articles&s=lifestyle

This is probably a better solution.

 

[Creole Lady Marmalade]

I was planning on a discount for anyone who produces their Indian Status card.








Hey, I go against the grain.

 

[BigBlue]

Half that discount if you're Metis??? (I'm Metis, of course)

 

[schizo_man]

No, "fulfilling sex" is not a human right. To suggest that is a intrinsic right means in some way the government should either be involved to insure people are getting laid or that the sex they're receiving meets an arbitrary standard. I can't imagine anything more destructive then getting bureaucrats involved in our bedrooms. Its a privilege that comes with its own obligations, responsibilities and risk.

Grav, I do agree with most of what you write here, however there is a certain value for people to be able to have sex. Alot of us take the privilage for granted because we CAN, pretty much whenever we want to. There is a segmant of the population who for one reason or another would never be able to have sex any other way and lets face it, it is one of life's joys, a joy that enables us to feel like a complete person. Alot of people with disablities already are shunned by the rest of "normal" society in just about every other aspect of their lives (jobs, living arrangements, etc etc). (in a sense fuck the gays and lesbians who feel they are treated poorly, the people in our society who are ostracized for no fault of their own are generally people with disabilities - where's our disabilities pride parade?) The inability to have a sexual experiance just compounds everything else. There are countries where the Government does pay for people with disabilities to see service providers, Holland is one of them, calling it sexual therapy. There are studies that have been done that show that improving this area of a person's life helps them cope better with the other areas and also improve those areas. I for one would not have a problem with a portion of my taxes going towards this, however if we did prostitution would have to be better regulated.

The whole thing about having a circle of people putting money in a pot to get laid....... ya that's kinda ridiculous. Budget your money as anyone else would have to do.

 

[gravitas]

however there is a certain value for people to be able to have sex

Don't get me wrong, I very much accept that one's sexuality is very much a part of them and can be a very enabling part of a disabled person's life. I have a friend who's sig other is a quadraplegic and they have a very healthy and "regular" sex life. I think its great.

What I have a problem with is the boneheaded notion that because he views sex as a "right" that the state should somehow provide SPs for those who can't afford it on their own.

 

[schizo_man]

Don't get me wrong, I very much accept that one's sexuality is very much a part of them and can be a very enabling part of a disabled person's life. I have a friend who's sig other is a quadraplegic and they have a very healthy and "regular" sex life. I think its great.

What I have a problem with is the boneheaded notion that because he views sex as a "right" that the state should somehow provide SPs for those who can't afford it on their own.

ahh yeah, I agree with that. Thanks for the clarification. It's nice to have, important in human development, but no, not a right. There will always be those who expect to get what they want for nothing. I'm sure some alcoholics would love for the government to pay for their booze too, or crack heads their crack, and would view it as their right - a sort of "freedom of expression" or some such shit.

 

[chancy4me]

I was planning on a discount for anyone who produces their Indian Status card.








Hey, I go against the grain.

Hell they already get cheap smokes and gas!

 

[PatrickGC]

Hi Gravitas:

No, "fulfilling sex" is not a human right. To suggest that is a intrinsic right means in some way the government should either be involved to insure people are getting laid or that the sex they're receiving meets an arbitrary standard. I can't imagine anything more destructive then getting bureaucrats involved in our bedrooms. Its a privilege that comes with its own obligations, responsibilities and risk.

My intent was never to suggest that the government become on any level become involved with the funding of sex services, and in the area of bureaucracy I couldn't agree with you more. However I do see it as core to a person's makeup. Whether they choose to have a sex life or not is completely up to them as well. If they'd choose to have a sex life there should be avenues available to explore. If I had my way this site would have a listing in the "Redbook"

Thats one of the more retarded ideas I've ever heard of. If I want to buy something I'll buy it, if I don't have the money I'll save till I do. If I want to buy a friend a gift I'll do that. How throwing your money into a pot as suggested helps anyone escapes me, you're not money ahead and you'd be in the same situation if you just took your monthly donation and squirreled it away.

Great. That way works for you. Several times a year however I hear from disabled individuals on fixed incomes who are looking for sex services. You find this idea retarded, it is however an attempt to generate new ideas to solve an old issue. Yes, the standard solution right now is to just save up cash until one can get what they want.

I see nothing wrong with exploring new ways of doing things.

PatrickGC

 

[FuZzYknUckLeS]

Got that PayPal account set up yet?

We formed a group, each person committed to a set donation per month which would be combined and go into a pot. Which, in turn each of us would receive the total sum donated to the pot, to do with as we wished...

Lemme guess. You would go first?
At which time it would be PatrickAWOL.
Lamest fuckin' scam idea I've ever heard. One would have to assume that they have a chance of going LAST. If you are the unfortunate sucker that would be last in the circle of poon, you would be in no different of a position than you would be if you simply saved the cash each month. My parents used to call it "saving up for shit". So where is the incentive to join? There isn't one. Well, there is one. Its the one where you go first in the 'spending circle' and fuck off with the kitty, never to be seen again.

 

[therealrex]

Standard pyramid scheme

 

[PatrickGC]

~ why not save 50 dollars a month like most other gentleman and go it alone ?~ At the 200 rate you can get quality ladies you just have to hunt for them.

Hi Annalise Lane
Actually that's what I did when someone on a fixed income contacted me regarding this topic a few weeks ago. After telling them to "save up their funds". I began to wonder if there may be other ways of approaching this problem which would work for everyone concerned.

So I started this thread, just with the idea out there.
PatrickGC

 

[PatrickGC]

Grav. Blunt and to the point as always.
You could have a good future in diplomacy.

Today there was a good article on sex and the disabled in the Calgary Sun.

http://www.calgarysun.com/cgi-bin/publish.cgi?p=148994&x=articles&s=lifestyle

This is probably a better solution.

Badwolfcgy:
Great article. I'm going to have to spend some time tomorrow investigating those resources etc. Yes, Gravitas is certainly direct but I appreciate it, as opposed to, the endless hyperbole generated by bureaucrats.


PatrickGC