Yeah, I have always wondered what the intention is there.
Has anyone ever tried to get a free session from a bait and switch?
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Has anyone ever tried to get a free session from a bait and switch?
I know what you mean but which is worse -- that or the exact same original post and images copy and pasted over and over again in subsequent posts in the same thread...?
Just saw one that states, "NEW PICS" (just like that, in all caps) in the ad header... I click on the ad and there are NO PICS in the ad (unless you count the one crappy little sig pic) :doh: :frusty:
The thing is they aren’t lying. They don’t say “100% pics are ME or free” they just say they are real. I always ignore those too.
Ohh look ...now here's a cute one... oh a ring in her nose, a pin through her eyebrow? hmmm no thanks.
she has a link to an instagram page that comes back 404 error.
she has a link to an instagram page that comes back 404 error.
In defense of the annoying ads: (I hate them too, but they make us do it!)
Backpage lets you write about 20 words. That’s it.
No explicit language is allowed anywhere I have to write M1lf because Milf is not okay. Same with bbbj, daty, happy, it goes on. You can’t use too many CAPS - gotta mix up the cases. Their requirements mean an educated, refined woman who is capable of playful reparte is reduced to writing an ad which states: m1lf beebeebeejay dattee 2day!
I use the word ‘elite’ because: I only work two days a week; I offer everything found at a five star hotel; I want to attract men who buy themselves the best. If there is a better word to convey such a message please tell me - I will use it
But yeah...if she’s selling herself as a ‘princess’...that just means she’s proud of being spoiled. Everyone enjoys *being spoiled* but some girls think it’s permission to *act spoiled*. It is not. You are totally right here.
I tend to hide my midsection because I don’t think my stretch marks are a great selling point. I am proud of them - I earned those scars- but I don’t think they are all that enticing. I still offer full body photos, as well as pics of individual areas...but just like with the wording, some ad sites mess with some of the photo details too.
Muff is my niche. I don’t want someone to come see me and be horrified when they find a meadow instead of a putting green! So while I do share a pic of the seaweed, I agree that a glimpse of the pearl is a bit too much information.
I wasn’t sure about the dick shots! I saw these photos of other ladies taken mid-facial, or accompanied by a big black cock, and I was personally horrified! But then I had too many confused men from CL not seeming to understand what I was offering, so I grabbed a couple online pics of men getting erotic massages.
I’ll delete them right away!
Yes, background info can mean a lot. You are wise to pay attention to the details she didn’t bother to notice.
Face pics: you want too much. I’ve been told I am prettier in person than in my photos. That’s because my amazing eyes, and lips, and hair, are not featured well in blurred out shots. But the internet is forever, and I have kids. If you want to see a girl’s amazing face, then book a date to see her. She might let you take a photo in person...
Please just try to remember, as you list all the sins of these sp’s...there is no handbook here. No apprenticeships to speak of. In fact, nothing to speak of, because we operate undercover(sic). Everything we do is trial-and-error. No one makes mistakes on purpose
Backpage lets you write about 20 words. That’s it.
No explicit language is allowed anywhere I have to write M1lf because Milf is not okay. Same with bbbj, daty, happy, it goes on. You can’t use too many CAPS - gotta mix up the cases. Their requirements mean an educated, refined woman who is capable of playful reparte is reduced to writing an ad which states: m1lf beebeebeejay dattee 2day!
I use the word ‘elite’ because: I only work two days a week; I offer everything found at a five star hotel; I want to attract men who buy themselves the best. If there is a better word to convey such a message please tell me - I will use it
But yeah...if she’s selling herself as a ‘princess’...that just means she’s proud of being spoiled. Everyone enjoys *being spoiled* but some girls think it’s permission to *act spoiled*. It is not. You are totally right here.
I tend to hide my midsection because I don’t think my stretch marks are a great selling point. I am proud of them - I earned those scars- but I don’t think they are all that enticing. I still offer full body photos, as well as pics of individual areas...but just like with the wording, some ad sites mess with some of the photo details too.
Muff is my niche. I don’t want someone to come see me and be horrified when they find a meadow instead of a putting green! So while I do share a pic of the seaweed, I agree that a glimpse of the pearl is a bit too much information.
I wasn’t sure about the dick shots! I saw these photos of other ladies taken mid-facial, or accompanied by a big black cock, and I was personally horrified! But then I had too many confused men from CL not seeming to understand what I was offering, so I grabbed a couple online pics of men getting erotic massages.
I’ll delete them right away!
Yes, background info can mean a lot. You are wise to pay attention to the details she didn’t bother to notice.
Face pics: you want too much. I’ve been told I am prettier in person than in my photos. That’s because my amazing eyes, and lips, and hair, are not featured well in blurred out shots. But the internet is forever, and I have kids. If you want to see a girl’s amazing face, then book a date to see her. She might let you take a photo in person...
Please just try to remember, as you list all the sins of these sp’s...there is no handbook here. No apprenticeships to speak of. In fact, nothing to speak of, because we operate undercover(sic). Everything we do is trial-and-error. No one makes mistakes on purpose
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I really hope you're being sarcastic! You're not seriously going to take the advice of a handful of strangers off the internet, people you don't even know if they are in your customer base.In defense of the annoying ads: (I hate them too, but they make us do it!)
Backpage lets you write about 20 words. That’s it.
No explicit language is allowed anywhere I have to write M1lf because Milf is not okay. Same with bbbj, daty, happy, it goes on. You can’t use too many CAPS - gotta mix up the cases. Their requirements mean an educated, refined woman who is capable of playful reparte is reduced to writing an ad which states: m1lf beebeebeejay dattee 2day!
I use the word ‘elite’ because: I only work two days a week; I offer everything found at a five star hotel; I want to attract men who buy themselves the best. If there is a better word to convey such a message please tell me - I will use it
But yeah...if she’s selling herself as a ‘princess’...that just means she’s proud of being spoiled. Everyone enjoys *being spoiled* but some girls think it’s permission to *act spoiled*. It is not. You are totally right here.
I tend to hide my midsection because I don’t think my stretch marks are a great selling point. I am proud of them - I earned those scars- but I don’t think they are all that enticing. I still offer full body photos, as well as pics of individual areas...but just like with the wording, some ad sites mess with some of the photo details too.
Muff is my niche. I don’t want someone to come see me and be horrified when they find a meadow instead of a putting green! So while I do share a pic of the seaweed, I agree that a glimpse of the pearl is a bit too much information.
I wasn’t sure about the dick shots! I saw these photos of other ladies taken mid-facial, or accompanied by a big black cock, and I was personally horrified! But then I had too many confused men from CL not seeming to understand what I was offering, so I grabbed a couple online pics of men getting erotic massages.
I’ll delete them right away!
Yes, background info can mean a lot. You are wise to pay attention to the details she didn’t bother to notice.
Face pics: you want too much. I’ve been told I am prettier in person than in my photos. That’s because my amazing eyes, and lips, and hair, are not featured well in blurred out shots. But the internet is forever, and I have kids. If you want to see a girl’s amazing face, then book a date to see her. She might let you take a photo in person...
Please just try to remember, as you list all the sins of these sp’s...there is no handbook here. No apprenticeships to speak of. In fact, nothing to speak of, because we operate undercover(sic). Everything we do is trial-and-error. No one makes mistakes on purpose
What are you doing on the forum if you don't care what strangers can say?
Not a single post above was worded as an advice. Those are personal opinions of what men can find off-putting. It's usually smart for businesses to use customer feedback. There's even poster's history easily available, if an SP wants to check who is likely in her customer base.
Thanks for your feedback, but I think you missed the point of many of the complaints.In defense of the annoying ads: (I hate them too, but they make us do it!)
Backpage lets you write about 20 words. That’s it.
No explicit language is allowed anywhere I have to write M1lf because Milf is not okay. Same with bbbj, daty, happy, it goes on. You can’t use too many CAPS - gotta mix up the cases. Their requirements mean an educated, refined woman who is capable of playful reparte is reduced to writing an ad which states: m1lf beebeebeejay dattee 2day!
I use the word ‘elite’ because: I only work two days a week; I offer everything found at a five star hotel; I want to attract men who buy themselves the best. If there is a better word to convey such a message please tell me - I will use it
But yeah...if she’s selling herself as a ‘princess’...that just means she’s proud of being spoiled. Everyone enjoys *being spoiled* but some girls think it’s permission to *act spoiled*. It is not. You are totally right here.
I tend to hide my midsection because I don’t think my stretch marks are a great selling point. I am proud of them - I earned those scars- but I don’t think they are all that enticing. I still offer full body photos, as well as pics of individual areas...but just like with the wording, some ad sites mess with some of the photo details too.
Muff is my niche. I don’t want someone to come see me and be horrified when they find a meadow instead of a putting green! So while I do share a pic of the seaweed, I agree that a glimpse of the pearl is a bit too much information.
I wasn’t sure about the dick shots! I saw these photos of other ladies taken mid-facial, or accompanied by a big black cock, and I was personally horrified! But then I had too many confused men from CL not seeming to understand what I was offering, so I grabbed a couple online pics of men getting erotic massages.
I’ll delete them right away!
Yes, background info can mean a lot. You are wise to pay attention to the details she didn’t bother to notice.
Face pics: you want too much. I’ve been told I am prettier in person than in my photos. That’s because my amazing eyes, and lips, and hair, are not featured well in blurred out shots. But the internet is forever, and I have kids. If you want to see a girl’s amazing face, then book a date to see her. She might let you take a photo in person...
Please just try to remember, as you list all the sins of these sp’s...there is no handbook here. No apprenticeships to speak of. In fact, nothing to speak of, because we operate undercover(sic). Everything we do is trial-and-error. No one makes mistakes on purpose
I'm not sure how many use backpage anymore. It is simply the worst for fake pictures and lack of information. But you also mention advertising on CL, where from what I see, there's nol imit to how many words you can use.
Why post: "m1lf beebeebeejay dattee 2day!" ? The same can be achieved by stating your correct age, saying you're a mom, having nice pictures and offer a "wide range of services". If someone is interested they can phone and you can be as explicit as you want.
And while I can't speak for others, hiding your stretch marks probaby isn't doing yourself any favours and is inviting cries of misrepresentation.
I have no problem with the word "elite". It's as vague as many others, but maybe just stating you only work two days a week would show you have limited availability. Or, you could have a web page which would allow you free reign to post whatever you want. And your own web site does imply you are more upscale and "elite". If you only work so infrequently, you should have a loyal customer base that would limit the times you have to advertise anyway.
As for face pics. Personally, I wouldn't expect any SP to post face pics.
Nor would I. Expect face pics, that is
The only "good" from a thread such as this would be in, possibly, giving clues to a provider, how they might market themselves to their desired clientele. Just that.
I judge by intelligence with the caveat that they might not have written what I am reading. I'll only know on meeting them. But THAT gets me in the door.
I've always said "If I wouldn't want to talk to you, why would I wanna **** you?" But I am in a minuscule minority I'm sure.
"Elite" just says pretentious TO ME.
I've tried to book with some "limited Availability" touring girls and the back and forth communications gave me the impression that every hour of their visit was booked with a client. Was a huge turn off.
I don't post photos of my face for the protection of my clients, family, friends and myself. "Protection of my clients" you ask? Well, how am I supposed to be discreet on a dinner date with my face advertised all over the internet?! It's the most ridiculous request ever, if you ask me.
I could never please everyone with my advertising. rephrase: I could never please everyone, nor do I want to :laugh:
I could never please everyone with my advertising. rephrase: I could never please everyone, nor do I want to :laugh:
Don't twist my words. Listening to every stranger doesn't make sense. But listening to no one is also weird, and yes, makes me wonder why one would want to be on an anonymous forum in that case.
Maybe you can see the irony when one stranger says to another "don't listen to strangers". That's what prompted my comment. I don't have anything personal against you or Caramel, enjoyed many of her posts. Telling somebody they cannot get value from PERB comments, that I disagree with. Each lady can decide it for herself.
Ask your customers how often they gave a full honest feedback to an SP, including negative parts, and how that worked out. Most men would figure out how to keep it to themselves.
Besides, if you read the title of the thread, it is a kind of information you cannot get from your customers by definition. If somebody didn't like the ad, you won't see them in person to ask why.
An unfortunate choice of words. I don't think she missed anything, and she gave a reasonable insight of why this or that could be done a certain way.
Of course, she used her judgement to see what complaints she should take into account. For one, I never thought that face pictures are worth the risk.
It is not common to see an SP that listens to feedback if not all positive. It's a bit of a professional bias, they get used to the fact most people who complain are assholes.
I think the feedback is easier to take when it is in impersonal manner, like in this thread.
The worst thing you can do is to make it personal by disagreeing point-by-point with somebody who was willing to listen. It looks like she's getting criticized for taking feedback, and then for taking it incorrectly, WTF. She has her reasons as you have yours. The decisions are on her side, and nobody appreciates when people tell them how to run their business.
Once again, I appreciate the insight. Luckily, you don't have to try to please everybody. I enjoy finding out people's reasoning, whether I agree with them or not.
It shows a lot about you that you listen to ideas, but have your own head on your shoulders and can decide for yourself. People will notice that.
There's always somebody who think they know better than you how to make your decisions. Those are easy to spot and probably are not worth wasting time on, anyway.
And? That's what I was advocating all along.
I don't know why you are not supporting your fellow SP who decided to use (potential) customers feedback. Even if she sees it slightly differently than you, she's entitled to her own decisions, and not being challenged on them, right?
Same as you are entitled to yours. If we often have different opinions, I can assure you, I never questioned your right to make decisions for yourself.
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