Actual young Asians. Indy/micro

[Thehouse]

I would have to agree with what you have just said. Kind of culturally different compared to our so-called western values.
I spoke with an Asian SP a few years back and she said the same thing,if the sugar daddy has the money he can have as many mistresses as he can afford and the wife won't say anything.
This part about not caring about long term business is bang-on. I was chatting with our friend ,Michael(from 48th and Main location) a couple of years back(he was trying to sell me his business at that time before he moved or make me an equal partner-wouldn't let me see the current lease,and no details about gross income etc.-you can't go into business without some thorough investigating- it sounded tempting but that's another story!).
Anyways the subject of business in Beijing came up and I said how can a business survive with crappy food(we were talking about food industry)-the customer won't come back after a crappy meal. He said that there is such a large population that they don't worry or need repeat business. The volume is so high,there will be new customers every day.

 

[poonmiester]

I would have to agree with what you have just said. Kind of culturally different compared to our so-called western values.
I spoke with an Asian SP a few years back and she said the same thing,if the sugar daddy has the money he can have as many mistresses as he can afford and the wife won't say anything.
This part about not caring about long term business is bang-on. I was chatting with our friend ,Michael(from 48th and Main location) a couple of years back(he was trying to sell me his business at that time before he moved or make me an equal partner-wouldn't let me see the current lease,and no details about gross income etc.-you can't go into business without some thorough investigating- it sounded tempting but that's another story!).
Anyways the subject of business in Beijing came up and I said how can a business survive with crappy food(we were talking about food industry)-the customer won't come back after a crappy meal. He said that there is such a large population that they don't worry or need repeat business. The volume is so high,there will be new customers every day.

I agree..... been to China so many times from North to South and east to west..... and it's amazing to see the poor or non existing customer service... just like the soup Nazi on Seinfeld... as you said... there are so many people out there ...they don't care... and no point complaining it doesn't change anything...

 

[westcoastrider1982]

Just have to keep the reviews coming good and bad to weed out the fucking bullshit!
Nothing worse than planning some fun, taking time out of busy day, spending hard earned money only to find a fucking ugly old grandma waiting behind the door!

 

[yvrvisitor]

Just my 2cents, but... I am pretty sure 90% of K-girls in Vancouver at the 200-220 range are all 30+.

Correct.
It''s not because of the price point. It''s just the fact.
Let me explain.
You all know how much "night life" exists in Asia (Korea in this case). For any half decent looking working girls to leave that lucrative market and come to US and CAN to work (believe me they would make more in Korea), they had to become less than desirable (getting old for that market)

Specially those girls with professional photoshop pictures. They already worked in their country for 5 or more years and already became 2nd or 3rd choice in competing with younger and prettier girls.

Vancouver market is usually the last stop for those girls before they become too old to work (by Asian standard).
One of the main reason these girls are willing to see 10 to 12 clients a day to save up for their next stage of their lives.

Asian gene usually means that they can lie about their ages by 10 years and most westerners would not know about it. (You all have seen some reviews where a reviewet said 'early to mid 20s' but later some other Asian pioneers say the SP is at least early 30s)

When you see a SP advertising as 'first time in Vancouver', well... true but most likely been working in other countries/cities for 5~10 years already.

 

[poonmiester]

So .... as I had mentioned before....search... take the time to go and seek and you will be rewarded with your efforts ....
So today I did... had the opportunity to meet a 19 years old .... for $180 for an hour........ not overpriced... as many other agencies..... and everything is on the menu... except for BBFS and didn't ask about Greek since I'm not interested in that....
So for all the nay sayers that say if you want a young lady you need to pay premium dollars ...well that is a load of bull..... only reason that ask for premium is because some of us out there believe its the only places in vancouver that you can find young and fresh.... and throw money at them...
As for me... I believe you search you will find the reward....

 

[lilasianboy]

So .... as I had mentioned before....search... take the time to go and seek and you will be rewarded with your efforts ....
So today I did... had the opportunity to meet a 19 years old .... for $180 for an hour........ not overpriced... as many other agencies..... and everything is on the menu... except for BBFS and didn't ask about Greek since I'm not interested in that....
So for all the nay sayers that say if you want a young lady you need to pay premium dollars ...well that is a load of bull..... only reason that ask for premium is because some of us out there believe its the only places in vancouver that you can find young and fresh.... and throw money at them...
As for me... I believe you search you will find the reward....

First of all, absolutely no offense to you poonmiester. I have the utmost respect for you and credibility here at this forum. But can you please disclose some info here? Even if not publicly, to a few of those also respectable around perb who are willing to TOFTT? It's still hard to believe you can just find one at will. And so easily too.

But hey if it's true, lucky you bro!

 

[vhyvhy]

So many blanket statements thrown out around here it's almost funny.

OP was asking for suggestion of agencies, micro or indy. So far there's 3 groups and 1 indy recommended. The topic seem to have changed to something else completely.

From many of the comments I've read I feel that it's basically saying:

-There is no legit Asian agency/micro/indy.
-Most if not all the girls came to work in Vancouver because they have no other options.
-Working in Korea/China/Hong Kong girls will make way more money.

We must've all been a victim by some malpractice Asian agencies. Maybe experienced some bait and switches and tons of fake photos. Aren't we here to share the good ones that we've seen so others don't have to experience the same? I have seen my fair share of bait and switches and fake photos before perb. In Hong Kong and China even the review boards can't be trusted and I have been burnt too. Is that the reason to discredit all the Asian agency/micro/indy?

I'm sure there are many shops that provide Asian SP in Vancouver. When there are only 3 groups and 1 indy recommended, what's the point of mentioning the remaining 90%+ of groups/agencies/indies that may or may not be legit? If you have had a bad experience with a girl/shop, just post a review and let everyone know. If you don't recently have a good experience maybe it's better to read more on the review board and try some highly recommended ones. That's what I did and I have had some decent experiences.

I've spoken with quite a few Korean SP's recently and many have chosen to come to Vancouver. Travelling, anonymity and friends already working here being some of the reasons. Not all the girls are bottom tier in their country apparently. Some don't even work as SP there. Maybe if you are Chinese working in China or Korean working in Korea you are not so special and you won't see 10 to 20 clients a day?

Working in Hong Kong, China and Korea makes way more money? I suggest try googling go141 or sex141 and see for yourself. Korea prices just google Itaewon or hooker hill hooker prices. Every industry has top tier prices and those are definitely not the ones charging 220-260/hr here. Remember where perbites usually find the girls, Leolist, craigslist and backpage. We should compare apples to apples.

Maybe my recent good experiences were all made up. Maybe the SP's I've seen in China and Hong Kong at dirt cheap prices were in my dreams. Maybe I'm just awfully naive to believe what SP's have told me. Maybe even when I see their ID it's fake.

See what you want to see; believe what you want to believe.

 

[westcoastrider1982]

Well said vhyvhy. Like you said this is a "review board".
Not to say this has totally happened on this thread but I honestly get pretty annoyed when I've received the response "why don't you go toftt?" Or "Just go out and find the good girls instead of asking on here!"

Sadly I don't have the luxury of time and money to go out and poon multiple times a week, weeding through all the bullshit!
Hence why I joined perb so I could read others reviews and share some of my own info to give back to the community!
Now having said that if someone with zero reviews comes on here just constantly asking for info, I agree,tell the guy to share first then you'll get help!

Anyways, I started a new thread about Korean girls as that seems to be the way to go

 

[poonmiester]

First of all, absolutely no offense to you poonmiester. I have the utmost respect for you and credibility here at this forum. But can you please disclose some info here? Even if not publicly, to a few of those also respectable around perb who are willing to TOFTT? It's still hard to believe you can just find one at will. And so easily too.

But hey if it's true, lucky you bro!

I've disclosed all info I have in the review my dear friend.... I have never held back info for the board .... and I have always contributed as much as possible....
It's not the question to find one at will and so easily.... but rather take the time and search and be willing to go and tofft.
I never said it was easy.... but it's like expecting to win the lottery and never buying tickets.... you need to go out and and find them.....
I know many will say they don't have the time or the money to do that.... well.. here is what the board is for...

 

[Kg-bear]

See what you want to see; believe what you want to believe.

I like what you said here " See what you want to see; believe what you want to believe. " Can't agree more.

Nice one VhyVhy

 

[poonmiester]

I like what you said here " See what you want to see; believe what you want to believe. " Can't agree more.

Nice one VhyVhy

I second that as well.....

 

[Kg-bear]

So many blanket statements thrown out around here it's almost funny.

OP was asking for suggestion of agencies, micro or indy. So far there's 3 groups and 1 indy recommended. The topic seem to have changed to something else completely.

From many of the comments I've read I feel that it's basically saying:

-There is no legit Asian agency/micro/indy.
-Most if not all the girls came to work in Vancouver because they have no other options.
-Working in Korea/China/Hong Kong girls will make way more money.

We must've all been a victim by some malpractice Asian agencies. Maybe experienced some bait and switches and tons of fake photos. Aren't we here to share the good ones that we've seen so others don't have to experience the same? I have seen my fair share of bait and switches and fake photos before perb. In Hong Kong and China even the review boards can't be trusted and I have been burnt too. Is that the reason to discredit all the Asian agency/micro/indy?

I'm sure there are many shops that provide Asian SP in Vancouver. When there are only 3 groups and 1 indy recommended, what's the point of mentioning the remaining 90%+ of groups/agencies/indies that may or may not be legit? If you have had a bad experience with a girl/shop, just post a review and let everyone know. If you don't recently have a good experience maybe it's better to read more on the review board and try some highly recommended ones. That's what I did and I have had some decent experiences.

I've spoken with quite a few Korean SP's recently and many have chosen to come to Vancouver. Travelling, anonymity and friends already working here being some of the reasons. Not all the girls are bottom tier in their country apparently. Some don't even work as SP there. Maybe if you are Chinese working in China or Korean working in Korea you are not so special and you won't see 10 to 20 clients a day?

Working in Hong Kong, China and Korea makes way more money? I suggest try googling go141 or sex141 and see for yourself. Korea prices just google Itaewon or hooker hill hooker prices. Every industry has top tier prices and those are definitely not the ones charging 220-260/hr here. Remember where perbites usually find the girls, Leolist, craigslist and backpage. We should compare apples to apples.

Maybe my recent good experiences were all made up. Maybe the SP's I've seen in China and Hong Kong at dirt cheap prices were in my dreams. Maybe I'm just awfully naive to believe what SP's have told me. Maybe even when I see their ID it's fake.

See what you want to see; believe what you want to believe.

Totally agree with you Vhyvhy.

I when to Korea & Hong Kong last month. I can tell you Asian is way way more cheaper price.

My korean friend set me up with a outcall hotel kgirl at night. When she arrive at my hotel door, i can not believe what i saw . This kgirl for me is 10 out of 15 (young , tall, crazy body & beautiful face, , & i only pay her Round $300 CAD. After the girl leave, i call my friend. I ask him did you pay extra money for this girl ( this girl don't look like a $300 working girl) , just want me to have a good experience? & he said noooo. he said if we pay $300 CAD this is what you get ( & he said " welcome to Korea " ), korea is a Comparative market he said.

About trip Hong Kong my friend send me a link but only chinese ( http://go141.com/zh/A59702-尖沙咀-美少女-TRNewton.html?ref=Exotic+banner+(Forum) , he told me this is a super hot girl from Thailand. At first when i saw the pic im thinking this can't be true . $800 HK dollar ($130 CAD) for this hot girl. then i call the number , they set me up with the time & tell me the address. When i arrive there is a 5 star hotel .... i arrive upstairs,when she open the door, in my mind im saying OMG This is not real ( she look exactly on the pic but better) . I tell her I'm from canada just for travel .End up I have her number & we go out for dinner & movie. She tell me she only have 3-5 customer a day. Because the local more in to white & Russian girl. Asian girl are not popular in Asian ..

With my experience last month in Asian, you guy definitely go check it out. Can't beat the price in asian...

Hope this help

 

[vhyvhy]

Totally agree with you Vhyvhy.

I when to Korea & Hong Kong last month. I can tell you Asian is way way more cheaper price.

My korean friend set me up with a outcall hotel kgirl at night. When she arrive at my hotel door, i can not believe what i saw . This kgirl for me is 10 out of 15 (young , tall, crazy body & beautiful face, , & i only pay her Round $300 CAD. After the girl leave, i call my friend. I ask him did you pay extra money for this girl ( this girl don't look like a $300 working girl) , just want me to have a good experience? & he said noooo. he said if we pay $300 CAD this is what you get ( & he said " welcome to Korea " ), korea is a Comparative market he said.

About trip Hong Kong my friend send me a link but only chinese ( http://go141.com/zh/A59702-尖沙咀-美少女-TRNewton.html?ref=Exotic+banner+(Forum) , he told me this is a super hot girl from Thailand. At first when i saw the pic im thinking this can't be true . $800 HK dollar ($130 CAD) for this hot girl. then i call the number , they set me up with the time & tell me the address. When i arrive there is a 5 star hotel .... i arrive upstairs,when she open the door, in my mind im saying OMG This is not real ( she look exactly on the pic but better) . I tell her I'm from canada just for travel .End up I have her number & we go out for dinner & movie. She tell me she only have 3-5 customer a day. Because the local more in to white & Russian girl. Asian girl are not popular in Asian ..

With my experience last month in Asian, you guy definitely go check it out. Can't beat the price in asian...

Hope this help

LOL 800HKD is already mid to high end in Hong Kong, depends on the area. For a Thai girl probably that price is on the high spectrum. There are plenty around 400HKD, many are actually not bad too. In Hong Kong I think Caucasian, Blondes, Russians and Ukrainians are priced a bit higher than other nationality.

I'd be seeing Korea's scene first hand later this year too. :bounce:

 

[westcoastrider1982]

LOL 800HKD is already mid to high end in Hong Kong, depends on the area. For a Thai girl probably that price is on the high spectrum. There are plenty around 400HKD, many are actually not bad too. In Hong Kong I think Caucasian, Blondes and Ukrainian are priced a bit higher than other nationality.

I'd be seeing Korea's scene first hand later this year too. :bounce:

The Caucasian blondes here think they're something special too and charge stupid rates for restrictive service

 

[poonmiester]

The Caucasian blondes here think they're something special too and charge stupid rates for restrictive service

But we all know anything made in Canada always cost more than products made in china.... lol

 

[vhyvhy]

But we all know anything made in Canada always cost more than products made in china.... lol

LOL this is funny!

 

[poonmiester]

Even Chinese made in Canada (CBC) cost more,...... lol

 

[SolidSnake]

Even Chinese made in Canada (CBC) cost more,...... lol

It's the label that costs more, wherever the girl was born.

 

[poonmiester]

It's the label that costs more, wherever the girl was born.

:noidea:
Mmmm solid snake you will agree with me, Chinese girls born here which obviously makes them Canadian, but still born of Chinese blood, their rates are higher than Chinese from China Mainland, nothing to do with the label, or where ever they were born..... right?

 

[poonmiester]

Unbelievable. Your thinking is the typical passive and complacent Canadian way! Worst of all, the logic is not there. Have you looked at history and how things came to be? People who were not satisfied didn't accept things the way they were. Change is always inevitable. It just takes time, courage, motivation, and effort.

What may work in China doesn't necessarily work here. Hell, they may eat dog meat in China or Korea, does that mean it's ok to serve it here? Maybe some people are ok with it, but most are not, even if it wasn't such a social faux pas. It's still not acceptable.

Anyway, one doesn't necessarily have to complain by venting, but it sure helps. While there will always be stragglers, the most effective way is to complain with your pocket book and avoid the offenders completely. Warning others is a no brainer. To say it doesn't change anything shows one dimensional thinking.

Wow. Respectfully, your thinking couldn't be any more abstract. Pooning is nothing like winning the lottery. Playing the lottery is the most foolish thing one can do and there is rarely ever any gain from it.

Well I suppose you have lots more experience in pooning.... thanks for the advise .... if you take the time to read my comments.... you will see I never mentioned anything about comparing pooning to lottery.... simply made a comment that trying to win at the lottery and not buying tickets will never get you anywhere... same as sitt8ng on your sofa and wanting to find a gem ... well chances are it won't happen unless you get your ads of the couch and book appointments and dare to try...

And in terms of changes.... I wasn't talking about here in Canada... I was talking about people in China and their mentality.... if there is someone that stands up for change I guarantee you...yoj will find me in front of the line....
So please before writing up all these comments about what I wrote.... take the time to read it all... absorb it .. and then make a comment.... if you are going to come on this board simply attack me .... then please don't read my post.... easy enough....

Thank you sir and have a wonderful day....