Abortion - Is it Right?

[LeBeau]

Senator Brownback of Kansas announced his candidacy for President as a fierce foe of abortion. He planned to return to Washington to participate in an anti-abortion rally Monday marking the 34th anniversary of the Supreme Court's Roe v. Wade decision that established a nationwide right to the procedure. Brownback also opposes embryonic stem-cell research and gay marriage.

On the other hand Brownback is against Healthcare for all.
Brownback is against abortion for religious reasons and wants the government to make abortion murder under the law. He is also against Healthcare to help the sick and dieing that can not afford expensive American Healthcare. This is today's American Rightwing Rreligious extremist.

Many think that, at the end of the presidential primaries, Brownback could be the Republican candidate for President.

 

[schizo_man]

quite frankly I think that's a question that a guy can't answer adequately. There are soooo many aspects to the issue. Ultimately it's the woman who has the responsibility. Men can fuck and walk away, the woman is left with the end result.
Also, what happens in cases of rape? or situations where the woman's life is in jeopardy if the baby lives? The decision to abort needs to be decided on a case by case basis.

 

[csr]

Unless you're a woman or in the medical profession you have no real reason to discuss abortion. When abortion (either pro or con) is used by politicians as a promotion for more votes it is especially disgusting.

Everyone has a reason to discuss issues such as abortion but very few people should have a reason to decide if the conclusions that come from those discussions are "right" or "wrong".

 

[athaire]

I think that it is wrong. But I feel that a womans right to choose far outweighs any problems I have with it personally. I would vote pro choice.

 

[tedsweettangv]

Let's leave behind the issue itself, I am just tired of the euphemisms. I am pro-life and I am pro-choice. How could you not be? The question is if you are pro-abortion or anti-abortion.

 

[Creole Lady Marmalade]

I'm pro-choice but anti-abortion when it is used as a form of birth control.

 

[csr]

But isn't abortion always a form of birth control?

For the record, I'm pro-choice. Perhaps this is because as a guy I have the luxury of knowing that there are very few laws preventing me from doing what I want with my body.

 

[athaire]

I'm pro-choice but anti-abortion when it is used as a form of birth control.

CLM has said it much better than I could. So of the two options I'm pro abortion.

 

[wolverine]

I can't wait to see this thread get to 8 pages.

I once heard this one comedian's view of abortion: "You're not a human being until you're in the phone book"

Although I don't condone abortion in most cases, I'm still pro-choice. The physical, moral and psychological consequences of opting for an abortion or not is a cross that should be carried by the mother and only by the mother. It's nobody else's goddamn business.

 

[Randy Whorewald]

I'm pro-choice but anti-abortion when it is used as a form of birth control.

Ditto that.

How can he be against medicare? With millions of US citizens having not even basic medical coverage - that's just plain wrong!!

 

[sirlickheralot]

Anti-abortion and anti-healthcare makes sense, force women to have kids then refuse to give them medical assistance to deliver them if they can't afford it. Make them squat down and pop the kids out in the parking lot. Seems completely rational to me.

 

[luckydog71]

To provide my answer, I support a woman’s right to choose to have an abortion – or not. This is a healthcare matter and it is a decision that needs to be made by her and her doctor. Period.

If a relative of mine asked my opinion on a decision she had to make, I would lean towards not having the abortion and try finding alternatives. However at the end of the day it would be her decision and I would stand beside her. Hell, I would hold her hand in the operating room if that is what she needed.

On the other hand Brownback is against Healthcare for all.

…How can he be against medicare?

Canadians interchange these words (healthcare for all and medicare) as if they mean the same thing. They do not. No one is against healthcare for all, but medicare does not provide that.

Medicare means if you stand in line long enough and live to see the front of the line, someone else will pay for your medical treatment. There is about 10% of Americans who do not receive treatment as good as Canadians. There is 90% of Americans who get better healthcare than Canadians. You tell me which is better.

If a Canadian needs an MRI, how long does it take before you get the results?

 

[dr_pepper]

It's simply not a black and white yes or no topic. There are cases where abortion needs to be an option.

 

[maxx50]

Lets talk about life

I am for pro chose .. but at the same time i don't think a women should just want to get pregnant. on a whim that it would be nice to have a baby ... Or on the other had not really take any persuasions not to get pregnant .. because she can always have an abortion. When it come to deciding on unwanted pregnancies . due to rape of for medical reasons .. then those are part of the chooses we have to make in life
But i want to put a plug in for the Pro life side... the life of the baby .. the life of a family.. the part of being there and watching your offspring grow up.
This is a man thing .. and although i have never had the opportunity of being part of conceiving another human being.. it is a fundamental part of the human genome. to want to survive .. through our children. It is funny how men think that as the father of a child they should have so much to say about it all .. but i must concede that the mother . is more part of that child then the sperm donor ever will be. Beyond all the the love and care that he mother can give her baby.. there is the mans part .. to love and care just as much for both of them .. and to make sure that they are provided for ..Not that easy of a task in to days world
.Just choosing to have a baby . or not , is all about commitment.. not just the mothers .. but the fathers also .. and weather it is a planed pregnancy ..or an accidental...LOL.. then both of the parent need to be there .. Yes some time a women decided to have a baby on here own .. and i actually applaud her for that .. because it is the ultimate chose she has . to have the power over her own procreation., and she may pick the guy to help her father the baby .. or may not want a man there at all .. those are some of those chooses in life. But once you have the baby then you have an other responsibility .. that is to give this new life ,new identity.. the right of chose also.
Life is always a choose that know one should have the right to interfere in .. We will make mistake .. and we will have triumphs .. . Some regrets ..a few of those also .. But the body is only a shell that allows the spirit to manifest .. and express it's self through..To Dennie one child's birth .. may be deaning our own survival.

 

[tianna]

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after the baby has a heart beat.. I think thats seven weeks or so... I could be wrong.... abortion should not be an option..

 

[kalel]

i'm all for anything which keeps people in line and avoids the issues of having children abandoned, left for shelters, killed cuz their crackhead parents can't care for them (wasn't there a native indian baby killed a few years ago cuz her parents couldn't care for her and her foster dad abused her??), or raised in substandard conditions. but i'm all for punishing people for stupidity or reckless behavior. why should everybody else have to pay the price for or put up with the stupidity of a few.

i'm all for choice until it's either a form of birth control in which case you shouldn't be allowed to fuck anymore, or birth control because you don't like the gender of your child in which case your ass should be deported to where you came from. i'm east indian and it does sicken me how many ass backwards people there are in my culture.

 

[dr_pepper]

after the baby has a heart beat.. I think thats seven weeks or so... I could be wrong.... abortion should not be an option..

Ok i'm a father and I was adopted to boot. It should be THE LAST OPTION but abortion still needs to be an option even after seven weeks. Even in cases where a fetus is taken to full term there are still many cases where the child will not survive a couple hours outside of the womb. The child is brain dead or something dreadfully wrong has happened. Or how about his scenario - my wife of 10 years who i already have two children with is now pregnant and into the second trimester. My wife's health goes south and the doctor's prognosis if she tries to deliver the baby is that she's got a 75% chance it's going to kill her. A fictitious example, but if it were to happen then WE as a family have the right to CHOSE what to do. It's not your say or anyone else's to play the odds on who will live. My point is there will always be extenuating circumstances. We can't remove the choice of abortion. We can SEVERELY limit it for sure but IMHO it still needs to be there as a last resort choice in those rare situations.

 

[tianna]

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Its such a touchy subject... what bothers me are all the people who use it as birth control.. I know of one girl and by the time she was 18 she had three of them.. and those who dont used birthcontrol.. and just "get" pregnant... there are so many ways to prevent that... people who are careless and know that they are should not be allowed to have them... I just think that the time in which they allow abortions should be shortened.. 12 weeks is a fair amount of time for the fetus to be growing

 

[csr]

I can see how one would want to discourage people from using abortion as a substitute for the consistent and responsible use of contraception but I fail to see how governing access to abortion will do anything to EDUCATE people who see abortion as a viable form of birth control from using it in this way. Laws and other formal tactics of social control are an ineffective substitute for social and personal responsibility.

 

[chilli]

But isn't abortion always a form of birth control?

For the record, I'm pro-choice. Perhaps this is because as a guy I have the luxury of knowing that there are very few laws preventing me from doing what I want with my body.

I knew a woman who used abortion specifically as a birth control, in the 3 years I knew her she had 4 abortions.