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I don't know what her monthly obligations are but she does have a mortgage, car payments and credit card debit, plus she has to feed and cloth two people, so I'm sure it's more than any government agency will pay.
She has a mortgage? How did she qualify? It's not like prices are low anywhere in the Greater Vancouver area. You met her 6 years ago and was helping to pay her rent and now she is a homeowner?
 

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She has a mortgage? How did she qualify? It's not like prices are low anywhere in the Greater Vancouver area. You met her 6 years ago and was helping to pay her rent and now she is a homeowner?
I thought that there was a lot more scamming going on in this story than the Sugar Daddy wants to admit. Sorry, but every time I hear of a Sugar Daddy / Sugar Baby coupling, I think it's just a fool matched up with a thief. Love can't be bought and sugar daddies are doing a lot of buying.
 

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When I started out in this business, I met a girl who said that her main income doesn't come from having sex wiht guys, but asking them for money and never returning it. She said when they visit she complains about a bill or something she has to buy for her son, and they usually volunteer to pay....

Another thing she said was that when she learns a guy has a lot of money, she phones him and tells him that she is in trouble and needs 3000 dollars. She tells them a story that if she won't get that money something terrible will happen. The guys usually give it to her thinking it is a loan, but when they ask for it she simply says she doesn't have it. The guys never cause trouble, she makes sure they are all married.

She told me back then that that she makes about 30.000 a year this way.

I am not saying this girl is doing the same, just be aware that women like this are out there. Best thing is to check out everything a girl says, even if it means a rude awakening.

I am still saying the honest way would be to pay her a monthly amount. Sugar daddy-sugar baby relationships are supposed to be like that. You pay her expenses so she can make herself available for you whenever you need her.
Honesty is hard-won isn't it? The honest ones don't come packaged up as really sweet nice and charming individuals, but at times rather frank and hard and at times self-effacing.... (and never carelessly speak badly of others).

Your story is yet another unfortunate example of why many men are cynical about women. We don't actually have to know specifically that such a female exists, we simply have to experience elements of it in the general female population. It's unfortunate you know. A good woman is hard to find.
 

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Some interesting sides to all this. A lot of doubt that the gal is actually for real, and a lot of tidbit information that the process and things she is saying lend themselves to a lot more examination! Each one of the jury here has picked away at some part of the story.

One suggestion is that the pooner hire a Private Investigator, something that is not all that unreal, but what about he does some of it himself? Like would it take that much to follow her home, sit in front and see if he can what goes on, maybe spot her with another guy or even another gal, find out if she is still practicing the trade, whatnot. Or if he did this would he be called some nasty words? Don't see much difference in doing it yourself over hiring a PI.

Funny how many of us are afraid to track our investments a little.
 
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jesuschrist

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This is about ONE woman. There are men who do the same to women. How about men who prey on lonely women, promise them marriage, take their money and run? Does that make every men bad?
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Yes, it is one woman. But as I said, "we don't actually have to know specifically that such a female exists, we simply have to experience elements of it in the general female population" - meaning people know intuitively how to apply the behaviour of others in anticipating a pattern among many. Often people are brandished for forming prejudice, or for being mysogynist or androgynist, etc., but one can't ignore the obvious dynamics between the sexes and how easily some will exploit it.
What is telling as well, is that someone might provide this as an example but then protest that it does not generally apply. That makes a lot less sense than saying it does.
 

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She has a mortgage? How did she qualify? It's not like prices are low anywhere in the Greater Vancouver area. You met her 6 years ago and was helping to pay her rent and now she is a homeowner?
She had a relative co-sign for the mortgage about 4 years ago and the downpayment was the result of her being a beneficiary when her grandparent died. Make of it what you wish.
 

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Some interesting sides to all this. A lot of doubt that the gal is actually for real, and a lot of tidbit information that the process and things she is saying lend themselves to a lot more examination! Each one of the jury here has picked away at some part of the story.

One suggestion is that the pooner hire a Private Investigator, something that is not all that unreal, but what about he does some of it himself? Like would it take that much to follow her home, sit in front and see if he can what goes on, maybe spot her with another guy or even another gal, find out if she is still practicing the trade, whatnot. Or if he did this would he be called some nasty words? Don't see much difference in doing it yourself over hiring a PI.

Funny how many of us are afraid to track our investments a little.
People who suggest I start spying on her are completely missing the boat. I've trusted her literally with my marriage for the last 4 years. Also as mentioned once before, she hasn't asked me for any help in this stuation, I've decided to volunteer.
 

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I thought that there was a lot more scamming going on in this story than the Sugar Daddy wants to admit. Sorry, but every time I hear of a Sugar Daddy / Sugar Baby coupling, I think it's just a fool matched up with a thief. Love can't be bought and sugar daddies are doing a lot of buying.
I have no idea what you are talking about. Trust me I didn't buy her a condo. Rather she had a relative co-sign for her. Believe or not she has worked during the years we've been playing around, and she's also taken courses both of these while raising a child.

My point is I don't want to see all her hard work vanish before her eyes because of her health. This appears to be a hard concept to grasp.
 

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I admire what you are doing, still helping her out when you know the fun stuff has ceased. It's obvious to me that she is more than just a SB to you. I say help her out as long as it doesn't put too much strain on your wallet as well as marriage (or what's left of it).
 

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Pretty much every time I hear a sugar daddy story I thank my lucky stars I only made that mistake once. History may not repeat itself but good grief it sure seems to rhyme a lot.
To be honest with you she's provided me with more intimacy, better sex, and just plain fun times than any other woman in my life. And when I'm on my death bed whenever that may be, it will be her I'll be thinking about. Not just her, but she's definately be near the top on my list, and when I do, it will put a smile on my face when I think back about all the fun times we had together.

I once said on another post that for me one of the main purposes in life is to collect memories, and from an emotional and sexual standpoint she's provided more than any other woman in my life (make of that what you will). So you may not be a fan of an SD-SB relationship but it's been one of the best thing that's ever happened to me.

I wouldn't even think of helping her in this situation if I didn't think deserved it and if I wasn't grateful for the relationship we've had.
 

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Funsugardaddy, you seem to feel very strongly about her - how come you are not leaving your wife for this woman?
It's just odd is all.
For a whole bunch of reasons.

Family obligations, the fact that the bedroom activities are fun because there's no baggage being brought to the table, which isn't the case if you're a couple.

And the fact that I'm 20 years older than her, a bit overweight, and shorter than her. (I once told her my magic number is 20. If I were 20 years younger, 20 centimeters taller, and 20 lbs lighter, I might have a chance. ;-) )

Realistically it's safe to say this relationship can't really go anywhere other than where it's been.

We've all witnessed the pooner who's got caught up in this and forgets where the boundaries are and where reality is.

I don't think I'm one of those guys and I'm at least conscious of this potential problem.
 

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It's not about what you and I may think of this woman... it's about the strong feelings he seems to have for her.
Regardless of my feelings for her, which I've never really thought too much about, reality is reality and there's no hope in hell she'd ever seriously consider me in any other arrangement then the one we have.
 

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I get that... but conflicts your prior statements about her. When you're on your deathbed you will be thinking about her.. she's the best thing in your life. Not normal at all
maybe, maybe not. Did I say she'd be thinking about me on her death bed? No I didn't because I don't know if she would quite honestly. Perhaps she would but I'm sure I'd be a great deal farther down on her list then she'd be on mine. And I'm okay with that.
 

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I really don't like the expression, but you are seriously pussy whipped :)
I think I'm going to stop responding to this thread. Like I've said I've decided to help her for the time being and take it from there.

I hesitated when starting this thread, not sure if I would do it again.

To be honest with you, I'm mostly sad that this happened to her. Her health is more important than a few hundred or even a few thousand dollars.

Anyway, thanks for your input.
 

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Sorry, the description fits you like a glove. You are saying you will think of HER on your death bed and not the woman who stood by you through thick and thin. And you admit that sex was good because you did not have to deal with issues. I would hate to be your family. Don't you have a teenage daughter you should care about who is growing up NOW and needs a father whose mind is AT HOME?
I don't think they're mutually exclusive. Do you?

Look I would sooner keep my family out of this discussion for a whole host of reasons, but my daughter wants for nothing. She gets my full attention whenever she needs it. Her schooling is funded, she's in a lot of sports programs, she's doing well at school, she has a lot of friends, and she's growing up in one of the best places in the world. We watch a lot of comedies together, we go to concerts together, we go to movies she wants to see, and I'm damn near her personal taxi. But I'm also strict with her studing and I'm not afraid to bring the hammer down on her if I think she's acting spoiled or behaves in a way I don't like. At the end of the day, which is coming soon, she's going to have to make her own choices in life and I believe she's quite capable of making the right ones when the time comes.

Now let's flip this around, do you have kids, because if you do, there's a couple things I could say as well, but I would sooner keep the family dynamics off this board because at the end of the day there's a lot of people here who are far from angels.
 

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Why don't you leave your wife and marry this other girl? If you left your wife, you'd be respecting her by setting her free to find someone who will love her fully (which includes having sex with her). You could still support her if you cared for her economic well-being. It's rather selfish of you to keep your wife while you put your emotional and financial energies into someone outside your family.
 

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Why don't you leave your wife and marry this other girl? If you left your wife, you'd be respecting her by setting her free to find someone who will love her fully (which includes having sex with her). You could still support her if you cared for her economic well-being. It's rather selfish of you to keep your wife while you put your emotional and financial energies into someone outside your family.
For the last time marrying the other girl isn't even close to being an option. But I would perhaps leave my marriage if I thought the benefits to my daughter would outweigh the harm. But honestly at this stage her life I don't think they would.

But feel free to keep the holier than thou moral outrage comments coming I find them amusing considering that we're on an escort site.
 

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For the last time marrying the other girl isn't even close to being an option. But I would perhaps leave my marriage if I thought the benefits to my daughter would outweigh the harm. But honestly at this stage her life I don't think they would.
But why is your wife the last person you seem to do anything about?
 

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Funny, I don't hear you talking about being strict and bringing the hammer down on your girlfriend when she behaves like a spoiled brat :)

If you would put HALF THE HEART into talking about your daughter that you put into talking about your SB, she could consider herself to be lucky to have you. But all I can hear is a perfunctionary father who probably shipped her off to the best schools to get her out of the way.


You know Anita, considering you know nothing about me you're making some pretty off base assumptions and I would appreciate if you would keep any commitment about my parenting skills to yourself.

Did you have any kids? How did they grow up? Where you the perfect mom? Unless you want to start getting into specifics about thsi I would suggest you don't go down this path.

Really if you say you are mature, then act mature and keep family issues of this topic. My family and the dynamics of it are none of your business.
 
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