A session went wrong... why?
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You could post the info that was in her CL ad, that way you wouldn't be revealing anything about her that she hasn't revealed to everyone anyways. Even if she isn't a scammer (which I still think she is) then she is definately too emotionally unstable for this business and is someone many pooners would want to avoid.
No kidding. People prefer to believe what they want to believe, in spite of all the actual information posted. Even the OP doesn't think he was deliberately ripped off, and he was actually there. There are a dozen clear cases posted where real scams are posted, and this scenario doesn't match any of them -- for all of the reasons you post right here. Naked sp on the bed, even before $ exchanged. Only a moron would think that = ripped off.
I've been following this thread with interest because the OP's first post evoked some pretty unpleasant feelings for me.
During the brief time I offered FS I had an uncomfortable situation in a hotel room out of town when I didn't get a good vibe from the client and asked him to leave. I handed him back his money but he wouldn't take it and wouldn't leave. He reacted the same way the OP did, trying to 'be friends' and 'talk about it'. We were both very calm and polite throughout, no violence, no raised voices or tears.
He would not leave, insisted I keep the money and go through with the appointment. I could have raised a stink but being in a hotel I didn't want to draw attention so I went through with it.
Nothing really bad happened but the bad vibe stayed throughout the session and long after. I felt like he was actually a very Dominant man who got off on dominating and controlling a woman who 'claims to be a Domme'. A spiteful, bitter act. Let's face it, I weigh 100 pounds, I can realistically only physically dominate men who allow me to do so.
There's a lot of 'stuff' that happens between words and actions. Humans have instincts.
In my opinion the first time she asked him to leave he should have gone AND at least asked once for his money back. I have read the OP's reasoning for not asking for the money back and I don't understand it. Asking for the money back should have been less upsetting then refusing to leave after several requests.
Just my take having been in a somewhat similar situation.
During the brief time I offered FS I had an uncomfortable situation in a hotel room out of town when I didn't get a good vibe from the client and asked him to leave. I handed him back his money but he wouldn't take it and wouldn't leave. He reacted the same way the OP did, trying to 'be friends' and 'talk about it'. We were both very calm and polite throughout, no violence, no raised voices or tears.
He would not leave, insisted I keep the money and go through with the appointment. I could have raised a stink but being in a hotel I didn't want to draw attention so I went through with it.
Nothing really bad happened but the bad vibe stayed throughout the session and long after. I felt like he was actually a very Dominant man who got off on dominating and controlling a woman who 'claims to be a Domme'. A spiteful, bitter act. Let's face it, I weigh 100 pounds, I can realistically only physically dominate men who allow me to do so.
There's a lot of 'stuff' that happens between words and actions. Humans have instincts.
In my opinion the first time she asked him to leave he should have gone AND at least asked once for his money back. I have read the OP's reasoning for not asking for the money back and I don't understand it. Asking for the money back should have been less upsetting then refusing to leave after several requests.
Just my take having been in a somewhat similar situation.
And you too are just as smart for recognizing it, imoThat's the smartest thing I've read in this thread so far.
should he have had to ask? he paid for a service, one that was not provided. i don't go get a muffler changed and have them not do it but pay them anyway.
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Very close scenario.
He wanted his tailpipe worked on, but he didn't know it was one of those lay-away specials, where you pay now and get laid later.
Should he have had to ask? Fuck no, she should of offered, but she didn't. It sounds like she was emotional/flustered/rattled/upset, whatever. Maybe it didn't occur to her.
I'm not saying it wasn't a scam/rip-off, none of us will ever know for sure but he still should have asked at least once. Period.
Pfft, if you're afraid of that just be careful about which indies you see. Do a little research to see if they seem to care about their reputations (most of the indies on this or the other board, for example). If an indie cares about her reputation she's not going to try to rip you off, because she knows how quickly word of a scammer gets around.
Life is about living and taking chances!!!!
You can have really bad service at an agency as well. Research the girl you want to see, and you'll be fine. If you can afford to lose a couple hundred, then take your chances with an unknown.
Most indies treat this as a business, this girl was not a business woman. Please don't judge all indies, just because this one girl was a flaky weirdo, lol
Maybe she would be willing to back you up by posting it here?
Otherwise, I would say you've been dissed - dude!
How's Cassia doin' - dude?
And you on the other hand spermy -
enjoy sucking them!
You have managed to go from mildly entertaining to absolutely obnoxious & deranged with you incessant silly post in this thread.
Save what little dignity you may have & post on another thread.
Unpleasant feelings
When she asked me to leave, I wasn't concerned about going through the session anymore. I knew that that part was gone and I wasn't in the mood anymore anyway.
During those few seconds, I wasn't thinking about the SP/client relationship. It was more like: "she is a woman who got upset by my words, I think that there is a misunderstanding, let me try to explain".
I didn't consider her point of view: "he is a client, I get a bad vibe from him and I don't want to have anything to do with him anymore".
Although most here think that I should have walked out at her first request, it is also true that it all happened in like 15 seconds. Just the time for exchanging 5 sentences verbally. The time elapsed was not enough for her to develop feelings of being threatened.
I did think about asking for money reimbursement, but I gave up the idea when she invited me to come some other time for free.
I knew that I would have never gone back for a session with her, not even if it was free, but I also knew that by saying those words she had already decided that she was not going to give me my money back. So, instead that asking and receive a refusal which would have probably generated further discussions, I just decided to take the loss.
What I still don't understand, is why she hasn't replied to my e-mail.
I think that my e-mail was polite and courteous that would deserve a reply.
Does this have to do with the girl showing no good manners, or there is something else that is holding her back from answering?
This is the most interesting comment I've read so far and it does (partially) answer my question "... why?"
When she asked me to leave, I wasn't concerned about going through the session anymore. I knew that that part was gone and I wasn't in the mood anymore anyway.
During those few seconds, I wasn't thinking about the SP/client relationship. It was more like: "she is a woman who got upset by my words, I think that there is a misunderstanding, let me try to explain".
I didn't consider her point of view: "he is a client, I get a bad vibe from him and I don't want to have anything to do with him anymore".
Although most here think that I should have walked out at her first request, it is also true that it all happened in like 15 seconds. Just the time for exchanging 5 sentences verbally. The time elapsed was not enough for her to develop feelings of being threatened.
I did think about asking for money reimbursement, but I gave up the idea when she invited me to come some other time for free.
I knew that I would have never gone back for a session with her, not even if it was free, but I also knew that by saying those words she had already decided that she was not going to give me my money back. So, instead that asking and receive a refusal which would have probably generated further discussions, I just decided to take the loss.
What I still don't understand, is why she hasn't replied to my e-mail.
I think that my e-mail was polite and courteous that would deserve a reply.
Does this have to do with the girl showing no good manners, or there is something else that is holding her back from answering?
What about your own words in the same post:
"I didn't consider her point of view: "he is a client, I get a bad vibe from him and I don't want to have anything to do with him anymore". "
