A request to Winnipeg ladies...

[Avery]

If a new client identifies himself as a member of PERB without ever having contacted you via PM here, please have him log onto PERB on your computer to verify his identity.

The following excerpt fron Chronic's post in the Lori thread illustrates why you should do this.

I did talk to her last night. She had claimed that we had a session. Turns out someone showed up half an hour before our session was to start. When she asked the guy if he was Chronic he said yes. I described myself and she agreed that the guy she saw was not me.

We don't want impersonators damaging our reputations. Thanks.

 

[Cappy1]

Our perb names are something else.

Avery - We don't want impersonators damaging our reputations. Thanks. [/B][/QUOTE]

Can't you just see it? A guy calls a girl and says :
"Hi, I'm Chronic. Slothy sent me...!"

That's how come they all flock to Avery & Phoenix

>>My reputation comes pre-damaged right out of the package.

 

[Quimby]

This thread is another reason I'm close to packing it in.

 

[Chronic]

I have to agree with Avery on this one. Lori told me this guy was very rough with her. He insisted he was me, even when asked a second time.

 

[maraman]

In the case of this Chronic impersonator, she didn't have a way of doing what Avery suggested. And even if she could have, the guy's in the door already.

I think it would be wise for all of us NOT to post our intentions of visiting any new SP's. Think about this for a second......some anonymous jerk reads the board and sees that you, me or whoever is interested in a certain SP. Bingo.....phone call....I'm CHRONIC ???

To the SP's....just because someone claims they are a member of PERB doesn't mean shit in terms safety. And if a new client calls or emails saying they are a member of PERB, I'd hope you'd get a reference and are able to validate from someone you trust before agreeing. My two cents....

This is really disturbing that this happened.

 

[joe kerr]

my 2 cents..

Sounds as if the girl can clarify things by NOT asking if the guy is So and So...'course the guy is going to say yes, I'm so and so...maybe she can ask him which name he goes by...and if he says one name and it doesnt jibe with the name of her appointment, she knows it's not her appointment at all....Pooners continue to see this sort of thing happen a lot.

Although I had an appointment with her at this time and I told her my name, someone came and said HE had an appointment. So I had to wait for over half an hour.

...part of the solution may be in how the SP asks the question of the client..."Are you so and so?" is a NONO for sure...

 

[BIGblackstudd]

If a new client identifies himself as a member of PERB without ever having contacted you via PM here, please have him log onto PERB on your computer to verify his identity....We don't want impersonators damaging our reputations. Thanks.

Your arrogance surprises even me Avery. Do you mean to tell me that you're advising the ladies that read this board that they can trust anyone that can log on to PERB? Are you serious??? You don't think any wacko can create an account and log on? Just think of the possibilities if all the ladies decided to take your advice. I hope that they have the common sense to ignore the quote above and I really can't believe that you'd even suggest it. l'll grant you that probably 99.99% of the posters here are trustworthy non threatening people, but even you can't guarantee that s.p's would be totally safe with a PERB member. And you're really more worried about your "reputation" than the girl's safety????? Unbelievable!

 

[charlieb]

I think the purpose of this board is being blurred. This board at best is a way for clients to get information about sps. Even then it is merely the opinion of a stranger and we as its users; use it at our own peril.

As a tool for sps to screen clients, this board is essentially useless. The only reason it SEEMS effective is that the vast majority of people are fairly decent and honest so it is no surprise that the majority of perb users are decent. There is nothing to suggest that an individual, by virtue of being a perb user, is any less likely to be an undesireable client.

 

[Avery]

Bigblackstudd, I'm not placing anyone's reputation above the ladies' safety at all. All I suggested was that if a client claims to be a certain poster without any prior contact with the lady under that handle, it would a good idea for the client to prove it. Perhaps sending the lady a PM would be a better way than the way I originally suggested.

Also, the safety issue didn't come up at first. In Chronic's initial post, all he said was that someone else had claimed to be him and had a session with Lori. It was only in a later post that he mentioned that the impostor had been rough.

Your point about safety is well taken, however. Certainly, PERB membership alone is obviously no guarantee at all of the ladies' safety. By the same token, just because someone claims to be a certain PERB member doesn't make it so either. If Chronic hadn't contacted Lori to investigate why she didn't see him, she would have thought he was a badass.

Joe Kerr also raised a good point. When the lady answers her buzzer, she should always ask, "who is it?', not "is that so-and-so?"

 

[mandy]

Girls always have to stick with their gut instinct. If the man on the phone doesn't sound right don't see him. Also the client can state he has seen another sp and you can get a reference from her. I have never had a client show up 1/2hr early, they might phone and ask if it is ok but not just show up. Also I never sloey make an appointment through e-mail or pm, there should always be a conformation call to get the address. You can get a better feeling over the phone and hearing them then just in words. We try to be as safe as we can but there are always going to be shitty people out there.

 

[Mchatte]

I don't expect the fact that I am registered on Perb to carry any weight with an SP. You may initiate contact on there but as Mandy mentioned, some back and forth with personal email and at least one follow up phone call should give both parties more of an idea of whom they are dealing with. I just met Monica for the first time a couple of weeks ago, and correct me if I'm wrong Monica but I believe our email correspondence helped remove some of the obscurity of whom we were dealing with. At least, from my viewpoint, I could certainly tell by the content and the promptness of Monica's replies that I was dealing with a great SP....There is nothing that is certain, but the signs were all positive.

 

[maraman]

....As for this mix up with Chronic, it just seema a bit weird that this girl is giving her address out to 2 different people. Correct me if Im wrong but, is it not that in a phone conversation there is 2 people on the line? How did the 3rd mystery Chronic get her address?

She told me she had two appointments that day. Hence two people having her address. One was Chronic's and the other was the "mystery Chronic". When "mystery Chronic" arrives, she mistakes him for the real Chronic.

 

[Avery]

I don't expect PERB membership to carry any weight either. However, in a couple of instances, I had exchanged PM's on PERB with ladies well before I actually saw them. It just seemed like an icebreaker to identify myself because I felt I already knew them a little, and vice-versa. Generally, I prefer not to reveal my handle beforehand, although I sometimes do so during or immediately after a session.

Monica did raise an excellent question about who the fake Chronic was and how he got Lori's address. Maraman's post seems to answer most of it, but the timing of the fake Chronic's arrival still seems strange.

 

[Stalin]

Monica and Mandy have some good points. I suggest that any SP use emails and phone calls whenever possible to get a feel for the client. I showed up at Mandy's place once without buzzing her apartment because some kids let me in the building and she was very cautious when she came to the door and let me in. We had already seen each other a few times so it was not a problem, but she still made it a point to find out who I was before she even opened her door. Good for you, Mandy! Stay safe ladies. Those of us who care about you will always support you in your efforts to stay safe.

 

[maraman]

Avery

Yup .....it still seems strange.

 

[Killdozer]

Re: Re: A request to Winnipeg ladies...

Do you mean to tell me that you're advising the ladies that read this board that they can trust anyone that can log on to PERB?

Herewith follows my polite response to BBS's post. . .

After rereading Avery's post, I can not see anywhere where it is stated or even inferred that a PERB member is beyond reproach. All he suggests is that if a client claims to be a member, and the SP is having doubts, she could request the log-in as a verification. Perhaps you misread the intent of the post.

 

[BIGblackstudd]

Why don't you tell me what the intent of the post was? I know what I thought when I first read it, maybe you could tell me what I'm supposed to think.

 

[Killdozer]

So much for being polite . . .

Originally posted by BIGblackstudd
Why don't you tell me what the intent of the post was?

It's called reading comprehension, taught in elementary schools. Nowhere in Avery's post does it even hint that PERB members are benevolent persons derserving of unquestioning trust. It does say that if a client is claiming to be a PERB member, and the SP is unsure, she can get the person in question to log onto PERB with his screen name to verify that he is the member he claims to be. This last bit may seem familiar, as I stated it in my previous post, had you bothered to read it.

I know what I thought when I first read it, maybe you could tell me what I'm supposed to think.

Given the above, it's obvious that you are not going to let anything I post dissuade you from your present course of action. Feel free to continue to antagonize others based on your inabiilty to recognize a fairly obvious misunderstanding.

 

[BIGblackstudd]

So much for being polite . . .



It's called reading comprehension, taught in elementary schools. Nowhere in Avery's post does it even hint that PERB members are benevolent persons derserving of unquestioning trust. It does say that if a client is claiming to be a PERB member, and the SP is unsure, she can get the person in question to log onto PERB with his screen name to verify that he is the member he claims to be. This last bit may seem familiar, as I stated it in my previous post, had you bothered to read it.

And perhaps if YOU bothered to read other posts on this thread, you'd realize that others have seen the same things in the original post that I did. I guess there's nothing wrong with my comprehension then.

Given the above, it's obvious that you are not going to let anything I post dissuade you from your present course of action. Feel free to continue to antagonize others based on your inabiilty to recognize a fairly obvious misunderstanding.

As far as your condescending tone goes, I think you know where that can go. I get a chuckle out of people like you though. Use big words and try to sound very intelligent, go on though, it keeps me smiling.

 

[Killdozer]

And perhaps if YOU bothered to read other posts on this thread, you'd realize that others have seen the same things in the original post that I did.

Gee, I did read the other posts in the thread, and I can't seem to find any other ones that attack Avery for his arrogance, or claim that he places his PERB reputation above the personal safety of SP's. Which is why I commented upon you unwarranted attack upon his character. If I seem to be missing these posts from this thread, I'm sure a sharp cookie like yourself will be able to point that out to me. Don't forget to keep on smiling!

And as for these scary "big words" I'm using, outside of "herewith" they are common words that could appear in any daily newspaper.