A conversation with my sp.

[sevenofnine]

It has been along time since I saw my sp about a month I think, holidays hers and mine.

We argreed to meet at a pub, next to her house.
I was just blah to be honest. Not horny excited not anything,
But that changed as soon as she sat down next to me and we fell into conversation.
Just catching up most of it, how was our holidays etc,
Then, more deeper topics, like where are we headed, what are we trying to achieve in hour life. No real answer but it was nice to have some one you can trust, and open up your life, and their not going to judge you or run you down or give you advice.
The time was gone, it just flew.


I looked at my watch and asked her if you just wanted to end it there or continue back at her place, she said we could go back to her house, even though it was late.
We went back to her house, I ran through the shower, I came out and she had drinks poured, we sat on her sofa and continued our conversation and I gave her a foot massage.
Again the time flew and we just talked, long into the night,
All I got out of it was a foot massage, well I gave one, thats it.

Well she invited her self to my work stampede barbi. So I got a date out of it.

But my point in all of this is. How many people do you meet, that you have that sort of connection with, that you open up your life and talk about your inner most feelings etc,
Even if you did would you want to.

She is the only women I have met in this, that I would pay for a session and just talk and go away and not feel cheated.

Lets face it you don't make that connection that ofton.
Women have opened the door on me and just wondered who the hell is this guy, and me to be honest the same.
Some women just don't want to talk or don't want to listen.

They don't think this hobby is at all about friendship some men feel the same.

Especially with a guy who is married and cheating on his wife and or family. Or some women who sees hundreds of guys I am just one and when she tells me Im special, what does that mean exactly.

How many of you whether a guy or a women in this,
have that kind of relationship,
that she could just invite herself to my work barbi,
and all I said is ok.

Just my opinion but I don't think most client sp relationships are that good. or that open and honest.

I don't really know what Im trying to say but I think for most people in this, its about sex thats it.

 

[VanessaofBC]

Some clients you connect with on a different level. And you are right. It is not common and certainly does not happen to everyone.

I am lucky that I have found someone I have connected with on a different level. But there is always this voice in the back of my head that says
"he could leave at anytime", and he would not even have to tell me.... He could just cancel his cell phone and that would be the end of that.
I am not sure if he knows how much I really care about him and really appreciate having him in my life. People say "but you don't owe him anything" and I do not think of it that way at all.
I think he EARNED it. He stuck by me through thick and thin. Even when I was miserable he still called everyday to see how I was doing.

I wish I could have him, all of him, but that will never be. So that is why I dread the day he tells me him cannot see me anymore, or the day that I never hear from him again....

Anyway, I do not know what I am trying to say either, but that is what I thought when I read your post.

xox

 

[juniper]

You pay her and call it "friendship? This site really is about fantasy and illusion.

It has been along time since I saw my sp about a month I think, holidays hers and mine.

We argreed to meet at a pub, next to her house.
I was just blah to be honest. Not horny excited not anything,
But that changed as soon as she sat down next to me and we fell into conversation.
Just catching up most of it, how was our holidays etc,
Then, more deeper topics, like where are we headed, what are we trying to achieve in hour life. No real answer but it was nice to have some one you can trust, and open up your life, and their not going to judge you or run you down or give you advice.
The time was gone, it just flew.


I looked at my watch and asked her if you just wanted to end it there or continue back at her place, she said we could go back to her house, even though it was late.
We went back to her house, I ran through the shower, I came out and she had drinks poured, we sat on her sofa and continued our conversation and I gave her a foot massage.
Again the time flew and we just talked, long into the night,
All I got out of it was a foot massage, well I gave one, thats it.

Well she invited her self to my work stampede barbi. So I got a date out of it.

But my point in all of this is. How many people do you meet, that you have that sort of connection with, that you open up your life and talk about your inner most feelings etc,
Even if you did would you want to.

She is the only women I have met in this, that I would pay for a session and just talk and go away and not feel cheated.

Lets face it you don't make that connection that ofton.
Women have opened the door on me and just wondered who the hell is this guy, and me to be honest the same.
Some women just don't want to talk or don't want to listen.

They don't think this hobby is at all about friendship some men feel the same.

Especially with a guy who is married and cheating on his wife and or family. Or some women who sees hundreds of guys I am just one and when she tells me Im special, what does that mean exactly.

How many of you whether a guy or a women in this,
have that kind of relationship,
that she could just invite herself to my work barbi,
and all I said is ok.

Just my opinion but I don't think most client sp relationships are that good. or that open and honest.

I don't really know what Im trying to say but I think for most people in this, its about sex thats it.

 

[juniper]

Re these clients about whom you really care, do they pay you for your time together? Just want to get a handle on the reality of your way of understanding.


Do these clients with QUOTE=VanessaofBC;1408329]Some clients you connect with on a different level. And you are right. It is not common and certainly does not happen to everyone.

I am lucky that I have found someone I have connected with on a different level. But there is always this voice in the back of my head that says
"he could leave at anytime", and he would not even have to tell me.... He could just cancel his cell phone and that would be the end of that.
I am not sure if he knows how much I really care about him and really appreciate having him in my life. People say "but you don't owe him anything" and I do not think of it that way at all.
I think he EARNED it. He stuck by me through thick and thin. Even when I was miserable he still called everyday to see how I was doing.

I wish I could have him, all of him, but that will never be. So that is why I dread the day he tells me him cannot see me anymore, or the day that I never hear from him again....

Anyway, I do not know what I am trying to say either, but that is what I thought when I read your post.

xox[/QUOTE]

 

[Man in Submission]

Sounds like a nice evening sevenofnine! Good for you!

The bonus was you got to give a lovely lady a foot massage. Not sure how it played out but I would've asked her politely if it would be permissible for me to worship said feet with my tongue as well!

I have not had the experience as many here have had with SPs, but I am always genuinely interested in what a lady has to say while being as open as possible about myself. It is always gratifying to make that connection and friendship with a lady, though I know some posters point out that it can't be real friendship if you are paying, blah, blah, blah.

Anyway, I've always felt a session can have a happy ending without having a 'happy ending' per se. Besides, I think you got the so-called 'money's worth' and then some on this particular evening.

That was a nice story. Brought a smile to my face. Thank you for that!

MIS

 

[VanessaofBC]

Re these clients about whom you really care, do they pay you for your time together? Just want to get a handle on the reality of your way of understanding.

No, if he paid for our time together I would be rich (and he would be broke)! It is all the other things.

Late night phone calls
Birthday Cards and the such
Bringing me the chicken he cooked last night
Driving me to the Doctors.
Stocking my freezer and fridge with food all the time. I had to ask him to STOP bringing me stuff if you can believe it!!

Sure, when he knows I am planning a night out with friends for dinner and drink he will leave a little cash "for dinner", but it is never in exchange for sex. That is long past.

What really matters is that we have connected on a different level. We are comfortable and happy with each other . Everyday we understand each other more and more.

 

[Man in Submission]

I think the majority of SP's have relationships like this with some clients. It's really nice, some of my oldest clients I consider to be some of my best friends and we talk to each other about our ups / downs and everything in between. I know they care about me and my happiness and success as much as they do our intimate moments, as do I. There the person that makes you smile when you see them calling or read an e-mail from. It makes this business all the better to be able to create these types of relationships with good people you wouldn't have met otherwise. I am so thankful for my clients like this, but also my clients where it's just about sex. There's nothing wrong with that either Even when it's just about sex, there is generally a certain level of respect and kindness exchanged and it's a good experience for all.

Very well said.

 

[juniper]

Everything you mentioned is what he does for you, Vanessa. What do you do, or share, but instigated by you on his behalf? I could be wrong but it sounds, from what you write in your response, that it is all about how he insures your comfort and delight. Do you see what I mean?

No, if he paid for our time together I would be rich (and he would be broke)! It is all the other things.

Late night phone calls
Birthday Cards and the such
Bringing me the chicken he cooked last night
Driving me to the Doctors.
Stocking my freezer and fridge with food all the time. I had to ask him to STOP bringing me stuff if you can believe it!!

Sure, when he knows I am planning a night out with friends for dinner and drink he will leave a little cash "for dinner", but it is never in exchange for sex. That is long past.

What really matters is that we have connected on a different level. We are comfortable and happy with each other . Everyday we understand each other more and more.

 

[VanessaofBC]

Well the reason I wrote my answer the way I did is because you asked

Originally Posted by juniper
Re these clients about whom you really care, do they pay you for your time together? Just want to get a handle on the reality of your way of understanding

Now you are asking

Everything you mentioned is what he does for you, Vanessa. What do you do, or share, but instigated by you on his behalf? I could be wrong but it sounds, from what you write in your response, that it is all about how he insures your comfort and delight. Do you see what I mean?

And I would like to respond by saying there are several things I do for him that I do not do for everyday "client". These things I consider personal and private so I will not go into detail except to say There are things we do I could never imagine doing with a "client". He knows me so well, better than almost anyone.

I did not want it to be a take, take, take relationship so I try to give,give, give in the best ways I know how.

 

[RobBC]

Great thread. I've been fortunate enough twice to get to know a SP well enough that I would consider her a friend and had the opportunity to get to know them in a social setting. It *is* very rare, and magical when it happens.

In the most recent instance the girl left the biz, and once that happened I never heard from her again so I can very much relate to the "it's great, but could be over in a moment" sentiment. To this day (probably 4-5 years later) I still think of her from time to time and wonder how she's doing.

 

[The Pope]

We argreed to meet at a pub, next to her house.
I was just blah to be honest. Not horny excited not anything

Get a life really, you're paying for her time...

No, if he paid for our time together I would be rich (and he would be broke)! It is all the other things.

If he didn't pay for your other time together, would you still be friends? If he decided to see other girls instead of you, would you still 'hang' with him?

 

[BORKO]

You pay her and call it "friendship? This site really is about fantasy and illusion.

Great thread. I've been fortunate enough twice to get to know a SP well enough that I would consider her a friend and had the opportunity to get to know them in a social setting. It *is* very rare, and magical when it happens.

In the most recent instance the girl left the biz, and once that happened I never heard from her again so I can very much relate to the "it's great, but could be over in a moment" sentiment. To this day (probably 4-5 years later) I still think of her from time to time and wonder how she's doing.

I'd assume it'd be pretty rare and I'd have a few issues with calling anyone a friend that I had to pay to spend time with. I'd also think there would almost always be that association of being an ex-client and it would take some doing for both parties to get over. Personally, if she doesn't talk to me outside of a paid work setting or spend time with me, I don't think that they are a friend...

 

[The Pope]

Personally, if she doesn't talk to me outside of a paid work setting or spend time with me, I don't think that they are a friend...

Does the dude who cleans your septic tank spend time with you outside of work? Will he still have a beer with ya when you bump into him at a pub one night?

The dude will hang with ya and have a beer with ya, just don't call him unless you are paying him... I've heard of many escorts having 'friends' with pooners, it is a friendship if they call you but if you call them then it is time paid... How cool is that? I'm here for you if you call me but if I call you, then I have to pay... Awesome possum eh?

 

[BORKO]

Does the dude who cleans your septic tank spend time with you outside of work? Will he still have a beer with ya when you bump into him at a pub one night?

The dude will hang with ya and have a beer with ya, just don't call him unless you are paying him... I've heard of many escorts having 'friends' with pooners, it is a friendship if they call you but if you call them then it is time paid... How cool is that? I'm here for you if you call me but if I call you, then I have to pay... Awesome possum eh?

Uhm.. he probably would if I had a septic tank and a guy that cleaned it. Where do you live that you have a septic tank?

 

[The Pope]

Uhm.. he probably would if I had a septic tank and a guy that cleaned it. Where do you live that you have a septic tank?

Why does that matter to you?

Sub septic tank with rotor rooter...

It is the guy your mom calls when your shitter is backed up...

 

[BORKO]

Why does that matter to you?

Sub septic tank with rotor rooter...

It is the guy your mom calls when your shitter is backed up...

I'd think the Vatican had a better plumbing system than a septic tank...

 

[RobBC]

I'd assume it'd be pretty rare and I'd have a few issues with calling anyone a friend that I had to pay to spend time with. I'd also think there would almost always be that association of being an ex-client and it would take some doing for both parties to get over. Personally, if she doesn't talk to me outside of a paid work setting or spend time with me, I don't think that they are a friend...

For the record: the people I called "friend" were people who I was not paying to see socially -- payment only occurred if I saw them in their professional capacity. If you had a friend who was an auto mechanic, would you not feel obligated to pay/compensate them if they worked on your car even though they are a friend?

The "being a former client" aspect *can* be an issue. Really depends on the individual(s) in question. I've experienced it both ways: the 1st SP turned friend relationship turned sour because of it (to be fair: we were both very young at the time) and with the 2nd SP turned friend it was never an issue from my perspective (or perhaps that's why she disappeared from my life once leaving the biz, who knows).

 

[The Pope]

I'd think the Vatican had a better plumbing system than a septic tank...

The Pope wasn't born in the Vatican...

Think man, use your brain the good lord gave you...

http://www.theprovince.com/news/bc/Gordon+Clark+dumbing+down+species+will+undoing/8628859/story.html

 

[BORKO]

For the record: the people I called "friend" were people who I was not paying to see socially -- payment only occurred if I saw them in their professional capacity. If you had a friend who was an auto mechanic, would you not feel obligated to pay/compensate them if they worked on your car even though they are a friend?

The "being a former client" aspect *can* be an issue. Really depends on the individual(s) in question. I've experienced it both ways: the 1st SP turned friend relationship turned sour because of it (to be fair: we were both very young at the time) and with the 2nd SP turned friend it was never an issue from my perspective (or perhaps that's why she disappeared from my life once leaving the biz, who knows).

I think that's a key factor there, I don't think I would call anyone a friend that just could up and drop me from their life like that.

 

[The Pope]

If you had a friend who was an auto mechanic, would you not feel obligated to pay/compensate them if they worked on your car even though they are a friend?

If my mechanic buddy invited me out for drinks and then we went back to my place and he worked on my car, he would be paid via beer not via money...

If I went to him to get work done on my mobile, then of course he would be paid...

If I called him and asked him to join me for beers at the pub, he would charge me as I'd expect, in fact he'd pay as often as I would...