#5 Dances
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Maybe. I didn't get successfully hustled cause I didn't bite; but she didn't come down any and looked really confused when I asked what happened to the days when it was $25.
Maybe she was just ambitious. Said it was $50 because she had to cash out to the bar.
Really to be fair, she said $50 for contact, $40 for no contact.
I'd only been to the Paramount before, where it was $25.
Maybe she was just ambitious. Said it was $50 because she had to cash out to the bar.
Really to be fair, she said $50 for contact, $40 for no contact.
I'd only been to the Paramount before, where it was $25.
was a regular at the 5 for a long time. $50 was the last price that I was aware of for a dance. As much as I enjoy the dancers just couldn't justify 6.50 for a beer and 50 for a 3 min lap dance anymore. Don't expect any reduction due to elimination of local bars.
Anica, I'm not complaining about the price as much as I find it unbelievable. If that's the price, then that's the price.
I understand why people go to clubs rather than SPs. I don't generally seek full service; I'm more of a slap and tickle sort of guy so I like service somewhere between a lap dance and a snog. However, $50 for a three minute dance is exorbitant. I'd rather spend $100 or $150 and get attention for half an hour from a SP. Just seems like an unexpected disparity of service to price, if we were to get economic about it. I guess that's it - I'm in more disbelief about the incongruence with the expected economic norm.
Nonetheless, if customers will pay it and the market will bear, then more power to the girls and I'll get over it. I hope the girls get to keep a healthy portion of it.
The girls at now-defunct Club Paradise/Uranus at some point used to pay an initial house fee then could work the room as they wanted. They just had to do one stage dance an hour or something. One of my clients used to work there and that's what she told me, at least.
I understand why people go to clubs rather than SPs. I don't generally seek full service; I'm more of a slap and tickle sort of guy so I like service somewhere between a lap dance and a snog. However, $50 for a three minute dance is exorbitant. I'd rather spend $100 or $150 and get attention for half an hour from a SP. Just seems like an unexpected disparity of service to price, if we were to get economic about it. I guess that's it - I'm in more disbelief about the incongruence with the expected economic norm.
Nonetheless, if customers will pay it and the market will bear, then more power to the girls and I'll get over it. I hope the girls get to keep a healthy portion of it.
The girls at now-defunct Club Paradise/Uranus at some point used to pay an initial house fee then could work the room as they wanted. They just had to do one stage dance an hour or something. One of my clients used to work there and that's what she told me, at least.
The girls at the Orange pay a fee when they start their shift. I'm not sure if they have to pay any fee after that, but always after doing their dances they have to go over to the manager or cashier (maybe just to bank their money and to assure the club that they were paid so much for so many dances).
The VIP girls don't have to do the stage. Some do. But my friend doesn't, because she doesn't see the point in giving a free show. And she knows she'll be more impressive if the guy doesn't know what he's getting until the curtains are closed and then wow look out baby that is some show!
Some of the regular stage dancers also do VIP dances (but it seems most don't), but if you go with one she's going to charge $60 and not give you much of a show, so it's better to hold onto your money and watch her show, then go with an actual VIP dancer.
Consider that there are very few strip clubs left in Vancouver, and most don't provide real VIP dances. Even the Orange isn't supposed to provide actual lap dances. The girls are supposed to refrain from contact. And management does checks to see there's no funny business. The Orange itself is up against it, I guess, because they're in danger of losing their license if they let things get out of hand (whereas at one time they allowed dances in private rooms where almost anything could happen).
The girls are stuck between a rock and a hard place (so to speak), since they aren't supposed to give full contact (and can get booted out if they're caught giving it) yet they have to charge the mandatory 50 (and make enough to pay their fee to management) and for that much a guy is going to expect something. So for a few dances, a guy can expect some contact. But the girl will also hope that he tips her well.
If you have a girl sit with you, but you don't want to go upstairs, you are expected to pay her twenty dollars and maybe also pay for her drink, if she asks. But you're getting a lot of quality time for all that. And even with the VIP dance you have to consider not only are you getting maybe a five or six minute dance for your 50, but you're also getting the ten or twenty minutes she spends with you before and/or after the dance.
And the more time she spends with you, then the more you should be paying and tipping.
But nobody's forcing you to do that. There are some zombies that come in there, order their one drink, sit at the state and stare at the dancers and that's all they do.
Then you have lots of guys coming in there who are executives or in some other high paying occupation, and all they want to do is spread their cash around to impress everybody. They can easily afford multiple dances with multiple girls and pay large tips.
If you're a working class schmo, you have to realize you're competing on the same playing field as those guys--and you just don't have the cash to measure up.
The VIP girls don't have to do the stage. Some do. But my friend doesn't, because she doesn't see the point in giving a free show. And she knows she'll be more impressive if the guy doesn't know what he's getting until the curtains are closed and then wow look out baby that is some show!
Some of the regular stage dancers also do VIP dances (but it seems most don't), but if you go with one she's going to charge $60 and not give you much of a show, so it's better to hold onto your money and watch her show, then go with an actual VIP dancer.
Consider that there are very few strip clubs left in Vancouver, and most don't provide real VIP dances. Even the Orange isn't supposed to provide actual lap dances. The girls are supposed to refrain from contact. And management does checks to see there's no funny business. The Orange itself is up against it, I guess, because they're in danger of losing their license if they let things get out of hand (whereas at one time they allowed dances in private rooms where almost anything could happen).
The girls are stuck between a rock and a hard place (so to speak), since they aren't supposed to give full contact (and can get booted out if they're caught giving it) yet they have to charge the mandatory 50 (and make enough to pay their fee to management) and for that much a guy is going to expect something. So for a few dances, a guy can expect some contact. But the girl will also hope that he tips her well.
If you have a girl sit with you, but you don't want to go upstairs, you are expected to pay her twenty dollars and maybe also pay for her drink, if she asks. But you're getting a lot of quality time for all that. And even with the VIP dance you have to consider not only are you getting maybe a five or six minute dance for your 50, but you're also getting the ten or twenty minutes she spends with you before and/or after the dance.
And the more time she spends with you, then the more you should be paying and tipping.
But nobody's forcing you to do that. There are some zombies that come in there, order their one drink, sit at the state and stare at the dancers and that's all they do.
Then you have lots of guys coming in there who are executives or in some other high paying occupation, and all they want to do is spread their cash around to impress everybody. They can easily afford multiple dances with multiple girls and pay large tips.
If you're a working class schmo, you have to realize you're competing on the same playing field as those guys--and you just don't have the cash to measure up.
Yes, this is the standard rate at the 5 and has been for some time. You were not being hustled.
If this is more in line with what you're willing to part with for a private dance, this was still the going rate last time I was at the Paramount. And apparently on Sunday, it's two songs for that!
The way it was explained to me was that they have to pay a "floor fee" at the start of a shift and then a certain house cut for every song as well.
It really depends on the dancer. There was a stage dancer that I liked a lot who did private dances at $40 per song and was strictly "no contact" but I was more than happy to spend a little private time with her at that rate. But another dancer who's stage act I loved, also once approached me and offered a "strictly no contact" private dance at $40 and it turned out that she simply meant that I was not to touch her. Because she was all over me and it was very nice! And not only that, her idea of a song was actually one entire song and half way into the next one! Unfortunately, both of those ladies seem to have moved on. Anyway, I just wanted to point out that the generalization about the quality of a stage dancers private dance might be unfair to some of the ladies.
I love strippers...
...ever since I went to my first strip club in Montreal at 18 years old.
Before my vacation a few months ago I frequented The Penthouse on Seymour and Nelson. As soon as I'm back in Van (next week) I'll be going back.
I can't recall what I paid there...I think $25 no-contact? Just before I left I think some of the girls were doing contact for $40 and mgmt was turning a blind eye.
I strongly doubt there's any extra's, they're pretty firm on the place not turning into a scuzzy whorehouse like it was 15 years ago. It's very laid back, no gangs, nice staff, decent talent. It's like my friendly neighborhood hang out, with naked broads!
Anyone been there lately? If the kitchen is still going the butter chicken is to die for.
...ever since I went to my first strip club in Montreal at 18 years old.
Before my vacation a few months ago I frequented The Penthouse on Seymour and Nelson. As soon as I'm back in Van (next week) I'll be going back.
I can't recall what I paid there...I think $25 no-contact? Just before I left I think some of the girls were doing contact for $40 and mgmt was turning a blind eye.
I strongly doubt there's any extra's, they're pretty firm on the place not turning into a scuzzy whorehouse like it was 15 years ago. It's very laid back, no gangs, nice staff, decent talent. It's like my friendly neighborhood hang out, with naked broads!
Anyone been there lately? If the kitchen is still going the butter chicken is to die for.
Of course what I heard about the stage dancers is what I've learned from my friend who is strictly a VIP dancer, so she might have her own skewed opinion.
There are certainly some girls who will be lax about the length of a song. I know my friend always gives me a free one (but then I tip her nice). However, she's been doing that ever since I met her--she gives me more free ones now, but if she likes any guy she'll stay a little longer with him.
The way I see it, you're paying her for her time. Depending on how you treat her, she'll give you more or less.
I know that guys always want to think they'll get real sex in one of these places. But surely we don't believe that's going to happen most of the time. It's more about the fantasy.
So I think you get what you pay for.
There are certainly some girls who will be lax about the length of a song. I know my friend always gives me a free one (but then I tip her nice). However, she's been doing that ever since I met her--she gives me more free ones now, but if she likes any guy she'll stay a little longer with him.
The way I see it, you're paying her for her time. Depending on how you treat her, she'll give you more or less.
I know that guys always want to think they'll get real sex in one of these places. But surely we don't believe that's going to happen most of the time. It's more about the fantasy.
So I think you get what you pay for.
Paramount is $25/song, or 5 songs for $100, you can also go for a half hour which is $200 upstairs (with no hanky-panky) an hour is $300, and a half-hour duo is $300. A regular duo, two girls, two songs is $100.
On Sunday night dances are two-for-one (2 songs/$25, and there is still the 5songs/$100 option) Also Thursday night is duo night on the main stage, and Friday/Saturday they have non-stop dancers performing on both stages. Drinks are $5.50 for yourself and for the ladies.
Open until 2:00am Tuesday-Thursday and Sunday, open until 3:00am Friday/Saturday.
THEY DO NOT SERVE ALCOHOL IN THE PARAMOUNT! (sorry for the CAPS but I'm tired of people sounding shocked/disappointed/indignant or surprised by that fact)
Y'all may consider yourself informed now
http://www.paramountgirls.com/index.html
Anica may correct me if I'm wrong or if anything has changed as I have not been there recently.
