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In 1/2015 I had an emergency ER visit and took an ambulance ride. Last week a bill collector called and told my I should pay 1,7xx dollars for the ride. I found out the ER company billed the wrong insurance company completely and also had my address as the hotel where I was picked up so I never got any letters of payment due.
At the time I had health insurance and give it to them but somehow the idiots got everything screwed up.

They are now trying to get the 3 year old claim to be paid by the insurance company which will get rejected due to timely filing.

It will come back to me, what legal recourse do I have when they managed to not get my proper insurance billed in the 1st place. I was fully awake even sick and def give them the id card.
 

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In San Diego, CA. I live in Seattle and had medicaid at the time and Had out of state er benefits at the time.

Its now in debt collectors hands.
 

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That makes sense. Some of us up here might have been confused, because an ambulance ride in BC costs $50 or $75.

Probably for you, the first thing to do is go to the CFPB website and start an online complaint. But hurry, because Trump is gutting the agency.
 

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crazy health insurance in America. I probably will retire out of the country since I can't afford life here later on.
In 2011 I got very very sick in Russia. ER ride and than 1.5 days in hospital came to 96 USA dollars for EVERYTHING. ( er ride, room and board, lab, doctor) I was shocked to see the bill. I was expecting over 750 and up.

I consider that to be the most memorable part of my trip, since I got to exp what real Russians do and not the tourist thing. The hospital was old, like something out of a movie. I had to sleep in the hallway actually. served food like military style.
 

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Same thing happened to my daughter in Florida, she had to sue the ambulance company and the ER. She won eventually but it screwed up her credit report for years.
 

DB Cooper57

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That makes sense. Some of us up here might have been confused, because an ambulance ride in BC costs $50 or $75.
You guys are lucky, an ambulance ride in MB is around $500 and there relentless about collecting it!
 

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You guys are lucky, an ambulance ride in MB is around $500 and there relentless about collecting it!
Yes, I had a ride a few years ago. Nothing like kicking someone when they are down eh?
 

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Actually, I just received an ambulance bill and I was shocked at the rates.
if an ambulance is called but they do not take you anywhere ...$50
if you have medical ....$80
* BC is the only province that does not get free medical*
if you DON'T have medical OR if it is a work related injury or a claim under the rcmp the rates are as follows

ground service $530
helicopter $2,746/hr
airplane $7 per mile

Insane!
 

80watts

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Another of those budget cuts from 25 years ago...

Health care should be free for all. Including the Ambulances. OK everybody, pay 100.00 on your land taxes... :fencing: :sick:
 

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Last time I heard, according to the Canada Health Act, ambulance service isn't a part of health care so every province can do what it wants.

Honda 761, if you are looking for places to go when you leave the states check out Cuba. They have done well with health care at least.
 

ddcanz

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In San Diego, CA.
Lovely city- our favourite to visit and relax. I'd love to find a cheap retirement property in the area.......
But to buck up for a stateside medical plan would be very prohibitive.
 

FreeG

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Lovely city- our favourite to visit and relax. I'd love to find a cheap retirement property in the area.......
Good luck!! Most of the people I knew and worked with (how hadn't purchased a house greater than 10yrs ago) travelled 70+mi from out of the city into downtown/bay area because that was the closest they could find an affordable house (unless you're super-rich, then LaJolla is beautiful with some amazing houses). Taxes are high (not as high as BC/Canada, but high by US standards), crowded highways, TOO many people at every outing (beach, parks, city, etc), homeless at every corner (which I have sympathy for, mind you, but some are unhinged), petty crime every day (had 3 things stolen from behind an unlocked gate on a dead-end street), most of the beaches except for LaJolla have cigarette butts/crap/plastic all over them. After living there for awhile, I found myself seeing only the bad more than the good - probably a personal issue but I was OK to leave.

Back to topic: had similar issues with health care in the US. Its a for-profit system - the insurance companies are incentivized to save money/make money, so its worth the time of an admin person to hunt you down for $1.7k. They don't exist to REALLY help someone (tho they advertise as such). The bottom line issue with me on US healthcare is you have ZERO visibility on what anything costs when you arrive. How would you react if you brought your car in and 30 min later they came to you and said "Well, we think you just had to change the oil, but we also did full diagnostics, changed the shocks, changed transmission fluid, put in new wipers, changed headlights, put in Ferrari-grade synthetic oil. Your $30 oil change will be $800 please." You'd be (rightfully) furious and that place would be highlighted on the local news for its practices and likely out of business in a year! But you go to a hospital, you're at the mercy of "experts" (who are often pretty good but make mistakes too) who prescribe tests based on your insurance (better insurance = better testing) and might prescribe meds or treatment as a precaution to cover all their bases, versus prescribing what's best for you. You go in with a pain in your shoulder and come out with $thousands in bills for MRI, X-ray, exotic painkillers, $500 slings, schedule for surgery, etc. Its asinine and nothing will change w/ the gutless govt's in the US because insurance companies have such power and clout.

I'm continuously amazed at medical care here. The 3 times I've been to the ER so far, I may be the only guy in the ER who's smiling and practically singing songs of joy (the waits are no worse than what I experienced in the US, btw) - I get prudent,careful care, doctors are just as good if not better (hey, they're Canadian so they're polite and humble by definition! lol!), and I walk out without paying a cent. I pay more taxes this time around but for me, its completely worth it.

Good luck with that ambulance claim - in my experience, complain and be as much as pain in the ass to all levels of management and don't let them get away with taking your money. It was their mistake, they need to own it.
 

ddcanz

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Good luck!! Most of the people I knew and worked with (how hadn't purchased a house greater than 10yrs ago) travelled 70+mi from out of the city into downtown/bay area because that was the closest they could find an affordable house (unless you're super-rich, then LaJolla is beautiful with some amazing houses). Taxes are high (not as high as BC/Canada, but high by US standards), crowded highways, TOO many people at every outing (beach, parks, city, etc), homeless at every corner (which I have sympathy for, mind you, but some are unhinged), petty crime every day (had 3 things stolen from behind an unlocked gate on a dead-end street), most of the beaches except for LaJolla have cigarette butts/crap/plastic all over them. After living there for awhile, I found myself seeing only the bad more than the good - probably a personal issue but I was OK to leave.
I appreciate your observations. I witnessed a lot of what you mention- especially the homeless.
It's easy to view a place through vacation-coloured glasses with a much different view of the every-day-to-day of life in an American city.
Our perspective was much more carefree. We've had apartments in the city as a base and partook in nightlife in the Gaslamp, dining in Little Italy, ice-skating at the Coronado, Belmont Park, Padres and Chargers games, the beaches, touring, taking the Surfliner to Anaheim for overnighters for Ducks and Angels games....endless.
The reality of full-time living is usually much different than vacation time.
 

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I would never live in SoCal. There is way way too many people and a whole bunch drive like maniacs. There is no way I am living old age up North, I think cold and wet weather is punishment from God and in winter I don't even want to open the door of the house! There are so many cheap places close to the Southern border that have a good quality of life with a short distance to major cities.
 
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