2025 Canadian Political Thread
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Glad to see the budget pass. Last thing we need at this time is an election. Of course the naysayers will be all over it with this and that and typically will have nothing of relevance to propose but that's the divisive politics of the day.
Any comments on the budget.
Even after all the lies the Carney libtards have told to get elected??
Propping up a government that should of lost the vote, means the ndp will really get hammered next time.
Carney needs to open up the oil and gas industry. Increase production of iron and steel. Need more Energy production in electrical, and you are not going to get from solar or wind, but maybe nuclear (but that is years away).
The only thing he seem to be approving is long held proposals which have the backing of the provincial gov, aboriginal consent, and long environmental studies, and business friends or companies Carney has stock in.
Look at murders in Canada, you wonder why they are commited, because they are not afraid of the law, which will only punish them for 20 years and get out scott free. No put the fear of God into them, and bring back capital punishment.
100% tax on MJ. just to match liquor taxes.
Tax trust funds by 50%. Tax the rich by 75% to balance the budget and increase corporate tax to 40%. Tax the bank on based on dividends payouts, which is a indication of true profit for the banks. Increase dividend tax to 40% until the budget balances.
Even after all the lies the Carney libtards have told to get elected??
Propping up a government that should of lost the vote, means the ndp will really get hammered next time.
Carney needs to open up the oil and gas industry. Increase production of iron and steel. Need more Energy production in electrical, and you are not going to get from solar or wind, but maybe nuclear (but that is years away).
The only thing he seem to be approving is long held proposals which have the backing of the provincial gov, aboriginal consent, and long environmental studies, and business friends or companies Carney has stock in.
Look at murders in Canada, you wonder why they are commited, because they are not afraid of the law, which will only punish them for 20 years and get out scott free. No put the fear of God into them, and bring back capital punishment.
100% tax on MJ. just to match liquor taxes.
Tax trust funds by 50%. Tax the rich by 75% to balance the budget and increase corporate tax to 40%. Tax the bank on based on dividends payouts, which is a indication of true profit for the banks. Increase dividend tax to 40% until the budget balances.
If there was an election Pierre PoiLIEvre would have to find another riding as Damian Kurek expressed in no uncertain terms that he would run again in his riding that PP parachuted into. The NDP if they all voted against the budget would have been wiped out into the history books as they are still on shaky grounds and do not have a real leader at the moment. The Bloc would also suffer losses as 4-5 seats that they took in Quebec were pretty close with Liberal & Conservative candidates. Then the so called Conservatives are on the verge of imploding due to a 3 word leader that has no solutions just negatory rhetoric.
The premise government should advance an ambitious plan to expand the electrical grid and power resource industries.
The new power transmission line coming in a few years time an opportunity for the provincial government to buy into some of the companies using power.
The BC NDP will call on the provincial government to seek to maximize benefits for the people of B.C. by negotiating return on investment for the public in the form of public equity stakes.
The resolution passed, a suggestion, not a policy...comes while government projecting billions in new revenue and thousands of new jobs flowing from new enterprises powered by the transmission line. But with a stake in some of the companies, it could collect even more, from a share of the profits.
...companies are coming to government saying they want to stay in B.C., but are getting offered massive subsidies to “relocate to Illinois or whatever.
...private investors putting money into your company, they get shares. Why is it when taxpayers put money into your company, they don’t get to participate in the upside, and can we talk about that?”
Canada desperately trying to disengage from the U.S. Alberta saw a $5 billion boost in revenues from TMX in the first year...not even at full capacity yet.
https://www.biv.com/news/commentary...-buy-in-to-private-companies-floated-11503316
I'm all for BC government borrowing for viable infrastructure projects. As voting shareholders, consultants, security, lender of last resort... But not borrowing for social programs or salaries. We always want value for our money. If social programs aren't producing viable provincial income there can't be much considered for salaries. The most pressing social program issue...teaching cohorts of technically savvy youths straight out of secondary school to be interested and immediately trainable in any number of different jobs and careers. Well equipped labs for physics and chemistry. Shop courses offering machine operating skills as well as any hand tool imaginable.
The new power transmission line coming in a few years time an opportunity for the provincial government to buy into some of the companies using power.
The BC NDP will call on the provincial government to seek to maximize benefits for the people of B.C. by negotiating return on investment for the public in the form of public equity stakes.
The resolution passed, a suggestion, not a policy...comes while government projecting billions in new revenue and thousands of new jobs flowing from new enterprises powered by the transmission line. But with a stake in some of the companies, it could collect even more, from a share of the profits.
...companies are coming to government saying they want to stay in B.C., but are getting offered massive subsidies to “relocate to Illinois or whatever.
...private investors putting money into your company, they get shares. Why is it when taxpayers put money into your company, they don’t get to participate in the upside, and can we talk about that?”
Canada desperately trying to disengage from the U.S. Alberta saw a $5 billion boost in revenues from TMX in the first year...not even at full capacity yet.
https://www.biv.com/news/commentary...-buy-in-to-private-companies-floated-11503316
I'm all for BC government borrowing for viable infrastructure projects. As voting shareholders, consultants, security, lender of last resort... But not borrowing for social programs or salaries. We always want value for our money. If social programs aren't producing viable provincial income there can't be much considered for salaries. The most pressing social program issue...teaching cohorts of technically savvy youths straight out of secondary school to be interested and immediately trainable in any number of different jobs and careers. Well equipped labs for physics and chemistry. Shop courses offering machine operating skills as well as any hand tool imaginable.
Sweden Deputy PM interviewed on CTV Power Play for Gripen E aircraft sales to Canada. Eleven minutes.
Have been watching the Ryan Wedding story unfold. This is good movie making stuff, unique as all get out as the guy is a Canadian.
1) Who would have thought a good old Canadian boy would become the Pablo Escobar of this past decade.
2) An Olympic snowboarder none the less - wonder if any boarders out there would admit to smoking a reefer with this guy back in the day.
3) Corrupt lawyer. Maybe this guy was a conduit for payoffs?
4) Taking out a critical witness. Just one?
5) Reports are he's the head of a B$ drug business.
6) Maybe hiding out in Mexico, maybe not ...
7) and of course the added thing about which law enforcement agency did or did not do.
Prime, Netflix, AppleTV ... pretty sure one of them, (maybe all) is/are standing by.
1) Who would have thought a good old Canadian boy would become the Pablo Escobar of this past decade.
2) An Olympic snowboarder none the less - wonder if any boarders out there would admit to smoking a reefer with this guy back in the day.
3) Corrupt lawyer. Maybe this guy was a conduit for payoffs?
4) Taking out a critical witness. Just one?
5) Reports are he's the head of a B$ drug business.
6) Maybe hiding out in Mexico, maybe not ...
7) and of course the added thing about which law enforcement agency did or did not do.
Prime, Netflix, AppleTV ... pretty sure one of them, (maybe all) is/are standing by.
In 2006 Ryan Wedding was named in a search warrant in Maple Ridge, British Columbia...that was investigated for growing large quantities of marijuana but he was never charged. However, in May 2010 he was convicted of attempting to buy cocaine from a US government agent in 2008, and was sentenced to four years in prison.
https://www.olympics.com/en/athletes/ryan-wedding
Wedding looks to have friends in BC. Born in Thunder Bay ON.
6'2", 188 cm tall.
https://www.olympics.com/en/athletes/ryan-wedding
Wedding looks to have friends in BC. Born in Thunder Bay ON.
6'2", 188 cm tall.
Swedish King Gustaf & PM Mark Carney
Ebba Busch - Deputy Prime Minister of Sweden
Pal Jonson - Defense Minister of Sweden
PM Mark Carney met Swedish royalty in his office, where he said the two countries were signing a strategic partnership "that extends from defence, to trade, to the environment and beyond."
A press release from the Prime Minister's Office said the agreement will connect Canadian and Swedish industries and workers in sectors such as clean power, critical minerals, manufacturing, defence, forestry, research and life sciences.
Top Swedish government ministers — including Industry Minister Ebba Busch and Defence Minister Pal Jonson — and representatives from dozens of Swedish companies have joined the royal couple on a trip to Canada.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/swedish-royal-family-canada-state-visit-9.6982815
Looking forward to partnering with Sweden industry and career growth in British Columbia with Saab Gripen-E construction in Canada. Canadians don’t need to be getting into anymore fights started by our allies. F-35 offers nothing else.
Off -grid living getting legislated so much, that you just have to bend over and take it up the ass..... but if you are connected to the grid (water supply, disposal and electrical), thus even if you don't use muncipal/provincial grids you have to pay connection fees and monthly access....
The solution is to have easy to use instructions to put all things electrical, water wells, and septic system into a easy used instructions. Then there is no need for expensive overpaid engineers to tell you how to run your home of grid.
The thing is governments want that money for the monthly connection fees... Which I think is wrong for any off-grid home over 1 acre, outside municipal boundaries.
Requirements to hook up to grids that is over 200m away from your property line, should be unconstitutional to our Charter of Rights and Freedoms.
Which means if people want to live off-grid, then let them, without fucking them over with these money grabbing schemes from governments.
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Imagine the shittiest job in Canada, and this is the guy who will be taking it on!
Meet Steve Outhouse, PP's new campaign manager.
This shit just writes itself!
https://vocm.com/2025/11/24/285496/
Meet Steve Outhouse, PP's new campaign manager.
This shit just writes itself!
https://vocm.com/2025/11/24/285496/
Carney delivers three-hour crash course on blindsiding Eby over pipeline
What makes this all the more remarkable is the high standing that Eby has held Carney in since he replaced Justin Trudeau last year. The two have had a warm relationship. Eby respects Carney’s intelligence, authority and easy command of a room.
https://www.biv.com/news/commentary...rse-on-blindsiding-eby-over-pipeline-11536734
Mark Carney on shifting the separatist meme further away from Ottawa.
Mr. Carney, reducing government corruption through decentralisation doesn't come by leaving out partners.
Survey shows weak support for Metro Vancouver megacity
https://www.biv.com/news/commentary...support-for-metro-vancouver-megacity-11546053
AI Overview:
Increased Corruption Potential:
• Reduced Oversight & Centralization: In a notable case, a commission found that the amalgamation of South African intelligence branches had "disastrous consequences" because it created a highly centralized structure controlled by a "super-director-general" who lacked clear legal oversight, making abuse and corrupt intentions easier to execute.
• Greater Scale for Misuse: Larger, amalgamated organizations may present opportunities for larger-scale corruption due to the increased amount of resources and complexity involved, which can make auditing and public scrutiny more difficult without robust external checks and balances.
• Political Alienation: Some research suggests that amalgamations can lead to increased political alienation among citizens due to the larger size of the new municipality, which may reduce local engagement and oversight, creating an environment where corruption can more easily thrive undetected.
Decreased Corruption Potential:
• Improved Controls in Larger Entities: An alternative argument is that smaller organizations may have less formal audit control and fewer people to detect graft, making it easier to be corrupt on a smaller scale. Larger, consolidated entities might be able to implement more sophisticated and professional anti-corruption measures.
• Efficiency & Accountability Goals: Amalgamations are often proposed with the intention of improving governance effectiveness, transparency, and accountability by streamlining services and making processes more efficient.
Mitigating Factors:
• The presence of strong external checks and balances (like an effective Inspector General or Auditor General), clear legislation, and a people-centered doctrine are crucial for preventing corruption regardless of the organizational structure.
• Conversely, a lack of transparency, weak enforcement mechanisms, and a culture that normalizes an "unholy alliance" between corrupt business and politics will foster corruption in any setup.
Ultimately, amalgamation itself is a structural change, and the potential for corruption is determined by the governance framework and ethical environment in which it operates.
Me: Against amalgamation. Communities each have their own character and I wouldn't disrupt the freedom of choise.
https://www.biv.com/news/commentary...support-for-metro-vancouver-megacity-11546053
AI Overview:
Increased Corruption Potential:
• Reduced Oversight & Centralization: In a notable case, a commission found that the amalgamation of South African intelligence branches had "disastrous consequences" because it created a highly centralized structure controlled by a "super-director-general" who lacked clear legal oversight, making abuse and corrupt intentions easier to execute.
• Greater Scale for Misuse: Larger, amalgamated organizations may present opportunities for larger-scale corruption due to the increased amount of resources and complexity involved, which can make auditing and public scrutiny more difficult without robust external checks and balances.
• Political Alienation: Some research suggests that amalgamations can lead to increased political alienation among citizens due to the larger size of the new municipality, which may reduce local engagement and oversight, creating an environment where corruption can more easily thrive undetected.
Decreased Corruption Potential:
• Improved Controls in Larger Entities: An alternative argument is that smaller organizations may have less formal audit control and fewer people to detect graft, making it easier to be corrupt on a smaller scale. Larger, consolidated entities might be able to implement more sophisticated and professional anti-corruption measures.
• Efficiency & Accountability Goals: Amalgamations are often proposed with the intention of improving governance effectiveness, transparency, and accountability by streamlining services and making processes more efficient.
Mitigating Factors:
• The presence of strong external checks and balances (like an effective Inspector General or Auditor General), clear legislation, and a people-centered doctrine are crucial for preventing corruption regardless of the organizational structure.
• Conversely, a lack of transparency, weak enforcement mechanisms, and a culture that normalizes an "unholy alliance" between corrupt business and politics will foster corruption in any setup.
Ultimately, amalgamation itself is a structural change, and the potential for corruption is determined by the governance framework and ethical environment in which it operates.
Me: Against amalgamation. Communities each have their own character and I wouldn't disrupt the freedom of choise.
Based on notes from AI Overviews below and environmental concerns I oppose another crude pipeline through British Columbia in favour of refinary and finished product pipeline construction. Also exportable wholesale and retail packaging of motor oils.
Approximate cost per kilometre to build finished product pipeline, one to $2 million per kilometre. Edmonton Strathcona processes 200,000 barrels per day. Just 893 kilometres of finished product pipeline in Canada. Energy East pipeline cancelled in 2017 over low oil price under $100 per barrel. US banker JP Morgan suggests oil prices dropping to $30 in 2027 over projected oil glut. Finished product pipeline cost one to $2 million per kilometre to build. The Trans Mountain pipeline's current capacity is 890,000 barrels per day at 100% capacity currently 80%. Railway tanker car typically hold 700 to 821 barrels. Refinery construction typically $30,000 to $50,000+ per barrel of capacity for new, large-scale projects. Canada imports 490,000 barrels per day of crude oil. Typical motor oil container sizes range from 1 quart (or 1 liter) for consumer-sized bottles to 5-quart jugs for larger vehicles, and much larger industrial volumes like 55-gallon drums or 275-gallon tanks for professional use. $50 billion for another crude pipe through BC.
Approximate cost per kilometre to build finished product pipeline, one to $2 million per kilometre. Edmonton Strathcona processes 200,000 barrels per day. Just 893 kilometres of finished product pipeline in Canada. Energy East pipeline cancelled in 2017 over low oil price under $100 per barrel. US banker JP Morgan suggests oil prices dropping to $30 in 2027 over projected oil glut. Finished product pipeline cost one to $2 million per kilometre to build. The Trans Mountain pipeline's current capacity is 890,000 barrels per day at 100% capacity currently 80%. Railway tanker car typically hold 700 to 821 barrels. Refinery construction typically $30,000 to $50,000+ per barrel of capacity for new, large-scale projects. Canada imports 490,000 barrels per day of crude oil. Typical motor oil container sizes range from 1 quart (or 1 liter) for consumer-sized bottles to 5-quart jugs for larger vehicles, and much larger industrial volumes like 55-gallon drums or 275-gallon tanks for professional use. $50 billion for another crude pipe through BC.
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Ottawa messaging for B.C. pipeline gets even more confusing
Justin Trudeau set a benchmark of free, prior and informed consent by First Nations along the route. He got agreement with many, but not all. And then he went ahead with the project anyway, saying despite the lack of unanimous consent it was nonetheless in the national interest.
“I think if you look at the TMX, there was very extensive consultation, there was very significant support from First Nations—it wasn't 100 per cent unanimous, but it was pretty strong,” Federal Energy and Natural Resources Minister Tim Hodgson said. “And there was a process that went through that the court said there was appropriate consultation, and there's a net benefit.”
https://www.biv.com/news/commentary...bc-pipeline-gets-even-more-confusing-11561440
Federal Energy and Natural Resources Minister Tim Hodgson
AI Overview
Ships a primary method for transporting bulk refined fuels and oils, using specialized vessels called "tankers" for both crude oil and refined products. Different sizes of tankers are used, with larger ones typically carrying crude oil and smaller ones, known as product tankers, handling refined products like gasoline, diesel, and jet fuel.
The US exported $107 billion worth of refined fuel in '23. Singapore & India each exported $55 billion worth of refined. Really don't want anymore crude pipes in Canada throwing away national income and good technical careers of the downstream energy sector. At $3 million per kilometre a finished product pipeline from Edmonton Strathcona to the BC north coast would cost about $3 billion. Plus pumping stations. Considerably below price of a crude pipe. Build crude oil refineries Alberta.
Justin Trudeau set a benchmark of free, prior and informed consent by First Nations along the route. He got agreement with many, but not all. And then he went ahead with the project anyway, saying despite the lack of unanimous consent it was nonetheless in the national interest.
“I think if you look at the TMX, there was very extensive consultation, there was very significant support from First Nations—it wasn't 100 per cent unanimous, but it was pretty strong,” Federal Energy and Natural Resources Minister Tim Hodgson said. “And there was a process that went through that the court said there was appropriate consultation, and there's a net benefit.”
https://www.biv.com/news/commentary...bc-pipeline-gets-even-more-confusing-11561440
Federal Energy and Natural Resources Minister Tim Hodgson
AI Overview
Ships a primary method for transporting bulk refined fuels and oils, using specialized vessels called "tankers" for both crude oil and refined products. Different sizes of tankers are used, with larger ones typically carrying crude oil and smaller ones, known as product tankers, handling refined products like gasoline, diesel, and jet fuel.
The US exported $107 billion worth of refined fuel in '23. Singapore & India each exported $55 billion worth of refined. Really don't want anymore crude pipes in Canada throwing away national income and good technical careers of the downstream energy sector. At $3 million per kilometre a finished product pipeline from Edmonton Strathcona to the BC north coast would cost about $3 billion. Plus pumping stations. Considerably below price of a crude pipe. Build crude oil refineries Alberta.
Domtar Crofton pulp and paper mill doesn’t sell its goods—absorbent packing, hygiene products and other paper products—to the Americans, and so its decline isn’t being driven by the ongoing softwood lumber tariffs.
New Democrats have been furious with Domtar since it embarrassed the premier in early 2023. Eby showed up to Crofton to announce $18.8 million in transition funding to save 100 jobs—only to have Domtar turn around and lay those workers off anyway once he left. The governments had to fight to get their money back.
Privately, the NDP think Domtar is a bad actor in a forest industry full of them; large, multi-national companies that siphon profits out of B.C. forests to reinvest in other countries while discarding British Columbia jobs.
https://www.biv.com/news/commentary...oblems-start-with-victoria-not-trump-11572788
In a province full of timber, wood chips, underbrush and burnt wood, a pulp mill can't find reasonably priced feed stock. US based Domtar Crofton mill site and equipment up for sale. Long before Trump, US keeps heavy tariffs on BC softwood products predominately because of low stumpage fees BC charges mills as a subsidy.
New Democrats have been furious with Domtar since it embarrassed the premier in early 2023. Eby showed up to Crofton to announce $18.8 million in transition funding to save 100 jobs—only to have Domtar turn around and lay those workers off anyway once he left. The governments had to fight to get their money back.
Privately, the NDP think Domtar is a bad actor in a forest industry full of them; large, multi-national companies that siphon profits out of B.C. forests to reinvest in other countries while discarding British Columbia jobs.
https://www.biv.com/news/commentary...oblems-start-with-victoria-not-trump-11572788
In a province full of timber, wood chips, underbrush and burnt wood, a pulp mill can't find reasonably priced feed stock. US based Domtar Crofton mill site and equipment up for sale. Long before Trump, US keeps heavy tariffs on BC softwood products predominately because of low stumpage fees BC charges mills as a subsidy.
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