This has been the way it works in canadian politics.. Always.
I'm not a Polly advocate, but complaining about it is like complaining the sky is blue.
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I'm not a Polly advocate, but complaining about it is like complaining the sky is blue.
Regarding hypocrisy, you have a valid argument.
Carney is supporting the By election, because he knows that the relinquishment of a seat to force a by-election for the leader is within the rules.
The Voters of this by-election can judge the action, and vote accordingly.
No rules broken, but nobody has to like it..
Typically you only see this with Prime Ministers who have lost their own riding, but can extend to any Party leader who losses his riding.
Look up William Lyon MacKenzie King and you will see president.
What happens if a Prime Minister loses his seat in Canada? Can he still remain Prime Minister? If so, how did this happen before and what happened after it did happen?
By “loses his seat,” I assume you mean if he fails to be elected in his riding to the House of Commons. If he/she does lose they remain Prime Minister. Under the Westminster parliamentary system government ministers do not have to be elected members of the House. This applies to the Prime Minister, as it does to any department head (called the minister). They can remain as PM for as long as they, and their party, wish. But, unelected persons are not allowed to be seated in the House of Commons. Often what happens, and this has happened a few times, is that one of the members of his/her party will resign their seat so that an election can be held with the Prime Minister running as a candidate of their party. If he/she wins their seat, then they can be seated in the House.
Look up William Lyon MacKenzie King and you will see president.
What happens if a Prime Minister loses his seat in Canada? Can he still remain Prime Minister? If so, how did this happen before and what happened after it did happen?
By “loses his seat,” I assume you mean if he fails to be elected in his riding to the House of Commons. If he/she does lose they remain Prime Minister. Under the Westminster parliamentary system government ministers do not have to be elected members of the House. This applies to the Prime Minister, as it does to any department head (called the minister). They can remain as PM for as long as they, and their party, wish. But, unelected persons are not allowed to be seated in the House of Commons. Often what happens, and this has happened a few times, is that one of the members of his/her party will resign their seat so that an election can be held with the Prime Minister running as a candidate of their party. If he/she wins their seat, then they can be seated in the House.
Ladies and gentlemen critical of what happened and is happening with Carney's and Poilievre's seats shuffling/appropriation/bouncing is totally in the tradition of British/Canadian parliamentary system. If you are not happy about it .... simple ...get involved politically to promote the changes that you feel would be more democratic.
Same about Carney's election as leader of the liberal party which was in line with and within the tradition of our parliamentarian system .
Same about Carney's election as leader of the liberal party which was in line with and within the tradition of our parliamentarian system .
Im not saying the Canadian British parliamentary system is logical . I knew right away what was going happen when Trudeau 2.0 stepped down , Carney was nominated as leader and Poilievre was rejected in Carleton as did a lot of us .
Is it shameful after he tried to ridicule others for similar actions ? But Pierrot is not at his first shameless pirouette. Look at his track record with election Canada when he tried gerrymandering Canadian style with the ridings . He is disliked and even despised back east in some circles but has ground support in the west ...so he's going nowhere for now.
We will see if he can finally get his security clearance and on top of that getting a new riding .
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Sorry. Trump is not and never was qualified. He does not have the same experience or education that carney has. Comparing Trump to Carney is like comparing a bait and switch to a well known provider. There is no comparison lol.
However. All any of us can do is wait and see.
I never said Trump was qualified.
Just stating that we have NO choice other than to wait and see, no matter if you are speaking of Trump or speaking of Carney.
No body can truely foretell an outcome, but to ease your concern, I am on team Carney.
The past is gone. The future is unknown. All that matters is right now. Yay team carney! Lol 💕
Same could be said about a guy who never was a MP before and yet gets the title of Prime Minister of Canada without being duly elected into the Canadian Parliament or being a Minister.
From before the election. The guy being interviewed has some good points on how to get Canadian raw resources (transportation of goods). C-69 comes up for pipelines.
Not only do we need to develop more resources (mines and mining).
We need to produce (manufacture) oil products (gas and plastics). And the carbon credits has to go.
The rest of the worlds is calling Carbon credits bullshit.
All for those highly educated woke idiots who have a moral dilemma about polluting the world with CO2. Crybabies.
Bill C-69 needs to go.
Build a oil pipeline to the east coast from Alberta.
Discontinue Transfer payments. Pls watch how the population shifts from quebec being the center to Alberta.....
Build a natural gas line from Quebec to port of Montreal. (Quebec has lots of natural gas reserves).
Build refineries in Alberta. Fuck C-69.
We still need housing. But build it to expand. Build 16-20 story apartment buildings (with 2 levels with 1600-2000 sq ft). This gives a couple room to grow in their apartment or immigrants a place to have all their family. Build with each apartment having 4-5 car parking places.
Can not say that eliminating parking spaces in a building is good. Why, cause you can't invite people over for a party.
The other reason is the public transit system is slow and it sucks. Here in Victoria to go from Langford to downtown by bus takes about 1 hour, which is 15 min by car. At night and no cops I can do the same drive in about 8-10 min......
My predictions is that Carney will be Turd 2.0. His policies won't change from the climate change propaganda that the Liberal Party is so entwined in (propagand of fear, just more taxes). Its going to be another 4 years of nothing else but taxes and more debt, with more Canadians being impoverished by taxes. More middle class going into the poor house. Hell half of the population in Canada are already at the food banks.... truly the Liberals are working toward a class system of HAVES a;nd HAVE NOTS. They have already achieved 4th generation on welfare, which is a prime voting block in urban areas.
In the last 10 years the Liberal have increased taxes, have created a large inflation rate, reduced the military spending, increased spending (over military budget) for Aboriginals, increased national debt.
Meanwhile more and more Canadians are depending on food banks.
I liked Carney's comment about the owners of Canada do not want to sell. Ever.
Carney looked like a kid who had been called into the principal's office. Obviously Canada is not for sale. What happened to "elbows up". I didn't see any elbows.
Did you think he should have gone in there hockey style? Get into fisticuffs in the Oval Office? We needed a calm leader capable of being assertive, charismatic, knowledgeable. But above all knows how to talk to people like Trump. I watched the whole press conference and I think you watched a different one than I did. Carney was assertive, charming, thoughtful, and diplomatic. Exactly how he should be
japan went in and got a first meeting $1T deal while carney got wiped and sat there with the three stooges and took it from trump
election - i won it
freeland - terrible woman (god parent)
trudeau - governor canada collapses
defence - you get it free
autos - don’t need yours Canada
border - 49th artist that line looks terrible
taxes - Canadians could pay way less
carney’s canned platitude speech was elbows down
election - i won it
freeland - terrible woman (god parent)
trudeau - governor canada collapses
defence - you get it free
autos - don’t need yours Canada
border - 49th artist that line looks terrible
taxes - Canadians could pay way less
carney’s canned platitude speech was elbows down
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This is the guy who is going to "stand up to Trump"? He was obsequious, nervous, shifty looking and completely intimidated. I think you Liberals have been had once again. If Polievre had won the election and gone down and behaved like that you guys would have been outraged and called him a weakling and a Trump puppet and you know it.
That is embarrassing.
When Trump is saying.....we do not want your steel, your lumber, your cars....this is exactly when Carney..instead of remaining mum...should have been actively making the case as to why the US still needed these materials....and pushed back. Nothing. Melanie Joly and Dominic Leblanc just sat there like bumps on a log.
Also Trump insults the woman whose children he is godfather to....Khrystia Freeland and he again says nothing. This is the guy defending Canada when he will not even defend someone he has a close relationship with? He could have said something, anything in her defense (not that there is actually anything but make some shit up) but he just shifted in his seat and looked nervously and uncomfortably around.
Canada's saviour from Trump. It was the one issue he had to get elected on and it looks like he is brutally blowing it one week in.
He conned you guys good.
That is embarrassing.
When Trump is saying.....we do not want your steel, your lumber, your cars....this is exactly when Carney..instead of remaining mum...should have been actively making the case as to why the US still needed these materials....and pushed back. Nothing. Melanie Joly and Dominic Leblanc just sat there like bumps on a log.
Also Trump insults the woman whose children he is godfather to....Khrystia Freeland and he again says nothing. This is the guy defending Canada when he will not even defend someone he has a close relationship with? He could have said something, anything in her defense (not that there is actually anything but make some shit up) but he just shifted in his seat and looked nervously and uncomfortably around.
Canada's saviour from Trump. It was the one issue he had to get elected on and it looks like he is brutally blowing it one week in.
He conned you guys good.
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Gotta have at least one adult in the room and someone has to initiate a dialogue.
Remember that it is hard to teach an old dog new tricks...in this case a very old dog with onset of dementia .
No kissing of the ring like some right leaning Canadian politicians, influencers, podcasters and former tv personalities
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I like to see how some people can be cheering for trump against our own interest.
Are you referring about the US bonds that Japan detains and could be used as a deterrent ? Canada has just over 400 billions . China around 1 trillion which they liquidated 50 billions a few weeks ago which was a trigger for a 50 points increase to 4.5 % . At 5.5 or 6.00 the US goes bankrupt. Is it the Damocles sword you want those countries or Carney to use ? Don't expect carney to use that as the world economic system would collapse even faster than trump's little nudge in that direction as it is ....
Carney knows better or would hint at that in private not in front of the cameras. Expecting Carney to use that threat in front of the world press from a governor of central banks would be ludicrous.
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Where's that 1 trillion deal ? There's no deal with any country so far .
Are you referring about the US bonds that Japan detains and could be used as a deterrent ? Canada has just over 400 billions . China around 1 trillion which they liquidated 50 billions a few weeks ago which was a trigger for a 50 points increase to 4.5 % . At 5.5 or 6.00 the US goes bankrupt. Is it the Damocles sword you want those countries or Carney to use ? Don't expect carney to use that as the world economic system would collapse even faster than trump's little nudge in that direction as it is ....
Carney knows better or would hint at that in private not in front of the cameras. Expecting Carney to use that threat in front of the world press from a governor of central banks would be ludicrous.
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You know, after looking at the few posts from this "new" poster, sure sounds like a recycled multi times banned troll .....
