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Americans trying to influence Canadians again.

The world has changed, the sooner Aboriginals figure out they lost all their land, and that they live in a new collective called Canada. Nobody should get special treatment due to their religion, sex or race; just like we shouldn't discriminate based on religion, sex or race. If we are all equal we should treat everybody as equals.
The equivalent of a white man losing his land is when the bank repossesses his land because he didn't pay the mortgage. Disastrous but survivable...

Aboriginals need to stop being their own victims, pull up their socks and get on with what life has dealt them. |
Free University education- (the problem here is only the elites get education on a reservation, because most teenagers there don't graduate high school, who fault is that?)
No income taxes on reservations- (I see taxable income)
Don't pay GST and PST- (When they go to local Cdn tire, Walmart etc). (Again I see taxable income). Every body should pay the same regardless, you know the old saying "when in Rome".

The best way to describe a reservation is as a "welfare state" supplied by your tax dollars.... Taxpayers can't afford the burden.

Maybe they should pay their own way in life, just like any other Canadian.... Income tax, land tax, pay for post secondary education etc.
 
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Maybe they should pay their own way in life, just like any other Canadian.... Income tax, land tax, pay for post secondary education etc.
All colleges and trade schools should be paid for by taxes. Nobody should start adult life with debt.

Some taxes everybody should pay, indigenous included. Indigenous people do pay all the taxes when they’re off their land. They have such a beautiful history that the invaders did their best to wipe out and they are still living with the repercussions of today. Inter generational trauma is a thing. Some people don’t finish high school because of generational trauma. It’s a lot more complicated than just pull up your boot straps. There’s so much trauma still there.

You seem to be jealous of indigenous because you bring them up a lot.
 

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I think the answer is security cameras. Like the city of London England.... the police then can track the criminals down after.

Yup all this random crime by drunks/druggies and homeless people.

People usually move away.

The real problems are not corrected or looked at.

The politicians saying that there is no money for correcting what is wrong; cause they don't want to raise taxes......
 

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All colleges and trade schools should be paid for by taxes. Nobody should start adult life with debt.
Nonsense! I didn't start my adult life debt-free. In fact, I went heavily into debt. That was my investment in my future, just the same as someone continuing in post-secondary school is their investment in their future.
I have a BSc and a Tech.Dip. A Commercial Pilot's licence with several ratings. I sure wish they were paid for by taxes...no, I really don't want that, then we would be living in a complete nanny state.
 

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All colleges and trade schools should be paid for by taxes. Nobody should start adult life with debt.

Some taxes everybody should pay, indigenous included. Indigenous people do pay all the taxes when they’re off their land. They have such a beautiful history that the invaders did their best to wipe out and they are still living with the repercussions of today. Inter generational trauma is a thing. Some people don’t finish high school because of generational trauma. It’s a lot more complicated than just pull up your boot straps. There’s so much trauma still there.

You seem to be jealous of indigenous because you bring them up a lot.
All colleges and trade schools should be paid for by taxes. Nobody should start adult life with debt. That would be nice, but lets look at all those that go to college and drop out. Mostly because they were too busy partying.... Should Cdn tax payers pay for that? Like anything else in life, if you want it, you pay for it. Why should a technical trade have to take a Aboriginal course to get a degree. All universities have that for a graduation criteria, no diploma/degree without it. Pure political and woke bullshit IMHO.

Some taxes everybody should pay, indigenous included. Indigenous people do pay all the taxes when they’re off their land. If everyone is to be equal in Canada, they all should pay taxes on income and pay provincial and federal taxes and pay land taxes. This should include Reservations. Its only fair to all the other taxpayers.

They have such a beautiful history that the invaders did their best to wipe out and they are still living with the repercussions of today. Yes mistakes were made in the past, but I still see native art, but their History is not my problem, but lets remember they were at war with other tribes too, so in no way were they peaceful people, they conquered and did bad things to their enemies. If circumstances were reversed they would do the same to us. There is a theory that the first vikings in North America were wiped out by the Aboriginals at the time. The invaders were our ancestors and they conquered the land. Therefore the land is no longer the Aboriginals. But more importantly the reservation lands are still Canadian lands.... caused they were put on conquered land....

Inter generational trauma is a thing. Some people don’t finish high school because of generational trauma. It’s a lot more complicated than just pull up your boot straps. There’s so much trauma still there.
Caused 99% by themselves. Parents are drug addicts/drunks, they don't want their kids educated, so they don't force them to go to school to graduate high school. Its to the Reservations Leaders benefit to keep most of their people uneducated and or on alcolhol/drugs to maintain the "whine". Most kids that drop out are raised by family other then the parent or single parent. Successful reservation have banned alcohol and drugs and force their children to go to school. A successful reservation educated its people and helps them solve problems on their reservations. They maintain their facilties on reservations, not rip out 2x4 for the wood fire to keep warm (Don't repair your house and the government will build you a new one)...The billions of dollars they have received since the treaties, the Aboriginals have not learned to solved their own problems. But the one thing they know if they maintain the status quo, they will always get money from the Cdn taxpayers. So what was the money used for??

You seem to be jealous of indigenous because you bring them up a lot.
No I sick of hearing them whinning about their lives, and how it was impacted 150 years ago. The dead children in mass graves (hasn't to my knowledge been proven yet, nothing dug up - just pure propaganda for the Aboriginals) As a people they have no intention of trying to better their lives, but my most important reason is the billions the cdn gov spends on them and gets nothing in return....

Lets look up the word Reconciliation. I some how just don't like it. It assuming things that didn't exist.

the restoration of friendly relations:
the action of making one view or belief compatible with another:
the action of making financial accounts consistent; harmonization:
: the action of reconciling : the state of being reconciled

Conciliation:
the action of stopping someone from being angry; placation
the action of mediating between two disputing people or groups

re
Prefix
Middle English, from Anglo-French, from Latin re-, red- back, again, against

The word (reconciliation) makes it sounds like the Fed gov and Aboriginals are going to get back together again. The truth is they never were together.


Politcians should just wave the magic wand, call them Canadians and put them to the wringer that the rest of Canadians have to live with::: TAXES.

I look at the Federal Budget and they get about 1.5 times what the Department of National Defence gets to defend our country. Please note the shit equipment that the Cdn armed forces have and lack of personnel (although the politicians are saying new equipment is coming).

Right now in the world, there is a war in Ukraine; which might spread to all Europe (and nuclear war) and in the South China Sea and the Pacific China is coming more and more militarized and taking over islands in the South China Sea which is not theirs to claim or take. China is threatening to invade Taiwan ( a free country).

Canada most important resource area (the Arctic, Nanuit, Yukon, and NWT) is undefended by Cdn troops. What troop exercises they do have is in the summer. It not maintained all year round. The north needs 5-7 bases put in to properly defend cdn interests up their. To show the Cdn presence. And its fucken cold. You should note that China was building icebreakers 15 years ago, and they don't get ice. Canada needs to keep an eye out up north eh....

So those new ships might come too late for northern Canada.

I look at Canada as Canada, not as some stolen land taken away from the Aboriginals. If you want a better description they were conquered by British Troops and RCMP etc in the 1700-1800s. Instead of killing them, they put the Aboriginals on Reservations. Promised them the world, let them to die, and gave them reservation schools to educate them on English society.
 

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When I look at the Scandinavian countries (Norway, Sweden, Finland and Denmar), I see countries that seem to have their act together both economically and socially.
So why is Canada so fucked up? The American Greed influence? Politicians spending money on foolish things?
 

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Carney is still gonna be a stick to the climate change agenda.... He wrote a book about it. Carney comes from finance and asset management not from industrial/mining/natural resources, which is what makes the Cdn economy boom....
He will still keep the environmental controls on every proposed project, that just delays those projects. There will still be unelected/unskilled/uneducated oversight for environmental projects ( whats the name of the dumb fuck environmental bill Trudeau got passed).
The controls in place for environmental is the equivalent of all the billionaires (the 1%)in Canada, having to overview your personal finances....
 

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The details on how the government is going to steal you guns....
I guess the aim is to eliminate "prohibited" weapons, that the Canadian people can have. I guess the thing is to eliminate semi-automatic weapons (cause if you know how you can turn it into a full automatic weapons).
This bill is to punish law abiding citizens, and not adequately compensate the public when guns are taken away. As the compensation is way lower then what the gun is worth.
On the other hand criminals will get their hands on handguns and automatic weapons... The court and law system should tack on extra prison time for people using guns in crimes.... not punish law abiding citizens. The Liberal mentality of punishing everyone but the people who cause the problem... fix the problem with smart solutions.... Punish the criminals....

So what was the point for this bill to take away Canadian Citizens guns?

School shooting? Jesus if kids get ahold of guns from their parents gun safe; the parents should be held responsible if the kid does a school shooting.

Today any gun in your house has to be secured (trigger lock or in a gun safe). Ammunition has to be stored separately (in another safe).

The more a government does stuff to take away property and rights, the more criminal activity you are going to get. The more governments overtax their people, the more they will rebel and do criminal acts.... eg. selling drugs, guns, pimping, gambling, protection insurance scams, etc.
 
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Who are the biggest thiefs in Canada?
1. Government taxes, Land, income and PST and GST
2. Insurance Companies, inflated rate due to cost of replacing eg house (cause the price per square foot doubled or triple in the last 20 years)
3. Bank and lending institutions. Mortgages should be at simple interest
4. Religious Organizations. Give 10 %
5. Hydro Companies. Instead of a low rate, they give alternates dual rates that cost you more in the long term, while electricity usuage is going up for products we buy ( electric cars, computers, more TVs, electric lawnmower, electric trimmer, battery charge tools etc
6. Gas Companies at the pump although alot of it is gov tax

A persons finance:
40% to house payment
25% to income tax (depend on tax bracket)
3-5% to insurance
3-5% to hydro
3-5% to gas
3-5% other (water, sewer or other household bills)
18% to saving (RRSP max) + Tax free savings (5000/year)
 

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When I look at the Scandinavian countries (Norway, Sweden, Finland and Denmar), I see countries that seem to have their act together both economically and socially.
So why is Canada so fucked up? The American Greed influence? Politicians spending money on foolish things?
You do know the Scandinavian countries average tax rates are quite a bit higher than the global average. And in general these are geopolitically compact countries. But maybe not given your comments.

" The average tax rate in the world is 31.37%, the European average is 32% and the OECD average is 41.58%. In the Nordic countries however, the tax rates are higher with Denmark at 55.56%, Finland at 51.25%, Iceland at 46.22%, Norway at 47.2% and Sweden at 57% "
 

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I like our chances with Carney at the helm, he knows the business world hopefully Canada can get it done
I think it was about a year and a half ago, maybe longer I listened to a speech by Carney, and figured that this guy sounded awfully prime ministerial. I think I even posted that but not sure. PhD from Oxford, Governor of banks of Canada and England and so on. That UN Speech was so far above the heads of the US administration in attendance they most likely missed the nuances and jabs. Of all the politicians the past few decades this guy may actually be that one to get our collective heads out of our asses and start the "Make Canada Greater" and that could be a red ball cap.
 

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Yes but first he has to take his head out of his ass. Keep environmental laws, but speed up the fucken process.

Build another 2 steel plants in the west. An aluminum plant to manufacture our own raw aluminium for export. (no raw aluminum to the states)

Increase transportation by train (double the tracks east and west and north). Build Canals on the prairies AB, Sask, and Manitoba for better transportation by boat.

There will be a need for a water pipeline from BC to AB (south west of Calgary) from seawater. Look at Arizona, and the lack of water in the Colorado river basin, the solution to that is solar power (in the desert area) to supply California seawater from Reverse osmosis.

With the technology we have today, it is possible to build winter hot houses in the prairie provinces, to provide fresh food in the winter time.

Increase Shipbuilding in Canada. Change the law for foreign vessels entering Canada (1 port and out of country like the Americans do), Increase ship traffic on great lakes.
Build nuclear reactors for power in prairie provinces (thorium- safer and non weapons grade material), build more solar, and wind plants (fuck the local populace whose motto is not in my backyard).

Any new chemical plants need a comprehensive way to store or neutralize toxic byproducts (we have the science, just not the balls). Hold corporation responsible for spills and cleanups. Hold CEO to large personal fines and jail time min 2 years.

One of the things that made Ontario a economic power in the early 1900s was its canal systems. Its been transplanted by trucks. Ontario is going to hit some big changes as it needs 2-3 east west superhighways for all its traffic. Or build a more robust rapid transit system for commuters. Means buying up land for these highways.

Same thing goes for BC (lower mainland up to Chilliwack) to AB for a rapid transit system. Drill big holes on the divided highway #1 and put skytrains up between the lanes.... Megastructures.....

The biggest thing that hampers big projects is the cost of the land in build up cities.... Something that Ontario is experiencing due to lack of foresight for future projects....
 

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You do know the Scandinavian countries average tax rates are quite a bit higher than the global average. And in general these are geopolitically compact countries. But maybe not given your comments.

" The average tax rate in the world is 31.37%, the European average is 32% and the OECD average is 41.58%. In the Nordic countries however, the tax rates are higher with Denmark at 55.56%, Finland at 51.25%, Iceland at 46.22%, Norway at 47.2% and Sweden at 57% "
They have done alot with their countries and built good institutions and public amenities for public use. We get Canadian National Parks, they don't cost much, but put alot of wildness that could have minerals out of use.
Yes their countries are smaller, but their work allows for 4 weeks off or more per year. University is free. They allow the people to vote on projects (so they are more democratic than we are). Our government only reacts to the whining and bitching by minority groups and cross provincial co-operation is 0. Why because the King (Federal government) wants it that way. Another reason the West doesn't like Ottawa.
Canada has only 2 main Megaprojects it has completed. The National rail way in the 1880s and the St Lawrence Seaway project in the 1960s. Most economic projects are concentrated in Quebec and Ontario.
Shipbuilding was killed in Canada in the 1970s and has never recovered due to high Cdn wages to build ships. 70- Japan, 80s Korea, 2010- China.

Scandanavians export more manufactured goods then raw exports. Canada exports more raw exports than manufactured good. Canada is not self sufficient in food. They have good health care, while in Canada its is failing. No doctors, No nurses etc. the system is bleed dry by its managers.

Canada has to address:
1. Economic issues (to manufacture its own raw resources)
2. Fix its health care system (hire more doctors and nurses)
3. Become self sufficient at food. So we don't have to import food any more during winter.

I think if you solve the 3 above problems you will see less mental problems, better health care and better prosperity for Canada.
 
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What bullshit information in the video. Pls be exact.
Tax law is fairly straight forward. Sometimes unfairness occurs due to the circumstances and disastrously poor planning. Then this Youtuber pleats on and on about the government money grab trying to whip up a 'cause'. It all just so much bullshit. It is sad that hard working people didn't consider tax liabilities properly moving forward. The tax payers have a certain duty of due diligence to themselves and the government cannot be blamed that the people had no plan and just did nothing. And the Youtuber, he is just using the situation to 'feed' on this tragedy by creating a sense of outrage.
 
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