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apl16

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Look left. Way left.
Speaking of forest fires I saw Coulson Aviation based in port alberni got a 10 year contract with the US for their H130s, 737s and helicopters. 6 other companies also got the 10 year contracts . Bombardier is building bombers along the lines of the martin mars , the new planes will scoop and fill in 12 seconds apparently, all orders so far are for Europe. Hmmm. Build em here and send them away! Guess we don't need any fast reactors.
It's great to see a company actually building things in Canada!
 

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I chuckle at a lot of the comments in these political threads as most are just regurgitated sound bites from your favorite main stream (gov. funded) media station, ie. propaganda.
Very few people now days do any digging for real political info, although I'll admit, it is getting harder to find with bill C-18 in affect.
 

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Why do we have a Competition act, and pay for the bureaucracy of a Competition Bureau, when they rubber-stamp almost every takeover? Rogers allowed to buy Shaw, to further cut competition, then when they renege on the deal that was made, they suffer no penalty. Now, the Competition Bureau has awarded Rogers $15 million compensation from attempts by Canadians to prevent the takeover. It's beyond ridiculous, but understandable as most of Canada's bureaucracy comprise people who don't serve the public's best interests.
 
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Why do we have a Competition act, and pay for the bureaucracy of a Competition Bureau, when they rubber-stamp almost every takeover? Rogers allowed to buy Shaw, to further cut competition, then when they renege on the deal that was made, they suffer no penalty. Now, the Competition Bureau has awarded Rogers $15 million compensation from attempts by Canadians to prevent the takeover. It's beyond ridiculous, but understandable as most of Canada's bureaucracy comprise people who don't serve the public's best interests.

Because it is a completely toothless agency.
 

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Couldn't agree more 80. Well said. Personally, I wish Canada traced the U.S system which is.... 4 year total in office then being replaced. Too long in office can create dictatorship or even loss in direction. But, politics is why they call it. Again, my opinion.




Skippy vs LemonNoHead

LemonNoHead has fucked too much with this country.

Skippy will win, if he keeps Canadians and (Canada first policy) as the #1 objective, and keep the same laws on abortion (don't fucken change them). Keep religion out of politics. Stick to the business side of things and promote Canada and Canadian businesses. Manufacturing, Environment (companies clean up their waste), Recycling (recycle more plastics (science and technology has improved for this area), less shit in landfills, mine old landfills). Clean water and ways to get clean water.

Personally I always though Skippy was a derogatory nickname.
As for LemonNoHead. He is Yellow (hiding behind his office and others in government) and his wife left him because he dressed her up in cosplay too often (India), hence no head...

The future for Canada is for Canada to invest in its own people. Clean up the Environment. Recycling of all materials. Canada is a Energy powerhouse, if it had the manufacturing to make it so (Solar, wind, nuclear, and geothermal and hydro). Manufacturing is 3D, on printers. Canada will need megaprojects for transportation between cities (high speed rail), cargo. With climate change, Canada will need to police the North West Passage, not just ship patrols but have land based areas to base the patrols from regardless of season (hovercraft and ships and airplanes). Canada will also need pipelines, not just oil, but water pipelines/canals.

Above all get a simpler tax system. Flat rate it, no deductions.
Environmental impact- no longer than 6 months to complete. To fast track projects.
Canada also need a top notch health research system outside of universities.
Canadian health records to be maintained in Canada, not in the US, employ Canadians not Americans.
 

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Because it is a completely toothless agency.
Agree. But an elected official still has to get re-elected every 4 years. That why they have some very old fuckers in the senate and congress. And that goes for Canada too on the MP side. The senate is appointed by who sucks the best cock and they can work in Mexico all year round. An MP should spend time within his electoral district and Ottawa.


Just think about this. Most billionaires are rich because they have a monopolies. By underselling the competition and buying them out.
Microsoft- Basic, Windows, which almost every pc in the world runs\
Car companies- bought out every major innovation for cars, eg variable speed window washer motors
Amazon - mail order company, it cornered the online order business, and allow other companies to up the price of things on amazon, not the manufacturers retail price, which is what it should be at.
Tesla- yup electric cars, and the best too.
All of these run off patents (have I ever told you guys that muslin countries don't have patents, and neither does China). Although I think Elon is giving away his patents, so the industry can advance faster. The same things goes for NASA, you can use their technology as long as you share yours. When you hear about China stealing patents from US companies.... you think ... bastards how evil.... but it promotes innovation and competition. Its why the US spent trillions on the Iraq and Afghanistan to promote their influence in the area.
Gortex is a unique fabric, but its past its 20 year limitation, but the original patent holder is dead, but his family still has the patent and since his death has increased the price of gortex, that manufactures went out and found their own system to do the same thing as (reason why gortex jackets are well over 400.00 now). Bob Marley is dead, but his family still has the rights to all his songs, and will sue your ass off if you use his work, to keep the money coming in.
 

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Saw this on utube. This is very concerning as it affects communities from Nanaimo to the Canadian/US northern border, just north of Prince Rupert.
It speaks to how much influence foreign organizations have over Federal politics. And its not appearing in the media. This has the potential to collapse all fishing in BC.

 

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Saw this on utube. This is very concerning as it affects communities from Nanaimo to the Canadian/US northern border, just north of Prince Rupert.
It speaks to how much influence foreign organizations have over Federal politics. And its not appearing in the media. This has the potential to collapse all fishing in BC.

Aaron Gunn is such a reputable journalist.*

*said no one ever
 

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That Jordan Peterson article is something Trump would write. They’re birds of a feather.
I tend to filter National Post articles. Mind you I am filtering almost everything these days.
If ever there was a time for a Buyer Beware warning on media this is it.
 
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That Jordan Peterson article is something Trump would write. They’re birds of a feather.
I read the Peterson article in full. It would be interesting to know what your issues
are with what was written. It all seemed pretty straightforward. Governments can't socially engineer "equity". Many have tried and millions of people have died in the process. Soviet Russia and Maoist China are good examples. Maybe you can explain why being against totalitarian governments is a bad thing.
 

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I read the Peterson article in full. It would be interesting to know what your issues
are with what was written. It all seemed pretty straightforward. Governments can't socially engineer "equity". Many have tried and millions of people have died in the process. Soviet Russia and Maoist China are good examples. Maybe you can explain why being against totalitarian governments is a bad thing.
I don’t agree with everything Peterson writes but this article was full of common sense, he is shining a spotlight on the crazy train our government seems to be riding these days. It’s time for a change, these dopes need to be voted out of office, their policies are jeopardizing our Country’s future, it’s gone beyond ridiculous!😢
 
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rlock

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I chuckle at a lot of the comments in these political threads as most are just regurgitated sound bites from your favorite main stream (gov. funded) media station, ie. propaganda.
Very few people now days do any digging for real political info, although I'll admit, it is getting harder to find with bill C-18 in affect.
This is my problem with most of it. People put on the team jersey and read all the talking points from a script. Like human bots, basically.

I know the political landscape and what policies mean. I form my own opinions. I speak my own words, and have no problem cutting the typical narratives to shreds.

There is no party I agree with 100%, or even 90%. The ones I support do not have my guaranteed allegiance, ever.

Frankly I think people who are die-hard Team Blue, or Red, or whatever, are just gullible, especially if they're not party members and have zero say in what those leaders choose to do.

Two reasons why:

1) Parties do change policies. They may have constant general core values, but the specific things change from time to time, if you actually watch & remember. So maybe being completely rabid about something, you'll forget how they miight be opposing something they used to propose doing. Are the leaders evolving their positions, or just hypocrites opposed to whatever the other guy is for? Even if the policies all change, just pretend like it was always what it is right now.

Example: Carbon Taxes, are originally a right-wing idea, proposed to reduce emissions but within the context of market choice, by applying the true costs of GHG emissions so that customers make a more fair comparison between clean energy and dirty. North America's first carbon tax was the BC one, brought in by Gordon Campbell's right wing government. The NDP opposed the carbon tax for something like 3 elections, and it was only when they lost twice more then had to share power with the Greens that they finally shut up about getting rid of it. So what happened ? Well, the right wing in American, then in Canada, got completely captured by the fossil industry, and they gave orders to right-wingers to oppose all forms of GHG reducing measures, and just like a bunch of loyal little minions, their supporters changed their tune to climate change denial, and aggressively doing nothing, even when the damage from doing nothing it costs their own industries dearly. They will not break with their party line - they will just alter the political spin to blame something else. Why is an oil industry dollar more sacred than a EV dollar, a farming dollar, or a tourism dollar? There is literally no answer given for this, except "that is what all good right wingers believe,, so you better be on board!"
The flipside is the NDP / left doing the same thing in the opposite direction. Now they pretend to support it, as if they always supported it, like it was even their idea.

2) The whole idea of democracy is choosing. You are free to make your own beliefs, and at election time, you choose the group that you agree with the most or did the best job convincing you. If you do not like what the party you support is doing, change your vote to someone else. If you're an actual party member, you're supposedto be free to try convincing them on an issue, or at least free disagree with them on some things, if it is not the major core issues. At the very least, withhold your support for certain leaders or certain policies. If they just do not listen to your concerns, dictating to you instead of asking for your input while they also ask for your donations, then you should walk away from them. Nowadays, narratives are so controlled inside of parties and leadership has such iron control over the membership, most parties are not even democratic internally. Everything is decided for you (not by you), every contest is rigged. They still want your dollars and your automatic agreement with all their policies and to do your duty to them by repeating their positions, no matter how insincere or even insane it is.

Well, this is all because political party affinity has become a CULT. You do not change the party you support, it changes you.
Check your brain at the door, and amp up the hypocrisy, because everything your team does is great and anything done by the others is terrible. You need to be a team player, and never try to make sense of why your team is doing or saying something.
They control what you hear or see, what you get to say, and what you are supposed to feel about something or someone.

Like I said, a CULT.


So if you see me ragging on one leader or party in particular, believe me when I say I am coming to that conclusion all by myself, after decades of observation and research, to back up what I assert about them, without being anyone else's cheerleader.
 
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This is BC politics, not Canadian federal politics, but another MLA has defected from the BC United (BC LIberal Conservative Socred whatever) Party to the BC Conservatives: Banman from Abbotsford South.

https://fvcurrent.com/p/abbotsford-south-banman-plecas-conservatives

https://vancouversun.com/news/politics/bc-united-bruce-banman-joins-conservatives

Weird that BC United is losing guys like this when they have the most clearly right wing leader they've ever had (more than Campbell, Clark, or Wilkinson), but I guess there are guys who want to win and guys who just want to go hard on climate change denial, anti-vaxxer beliefs, etc. BC United is only called "BC United" because they wanted to ditch the name "Liberal" because it irritated their right wing members just hearing that word.

Well anyway, it would seem BC now has 4 official parties in the legislature, with an election slated for next year. Should make for an interesting clash ahead.
 
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