Hard to book indies these days

Porkrxporkr

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I am finding it very hard to book independents in the 500-800 per hour range.

Most don’t reply unless I write some thoughtful intro.

Then they ask for ID and LinkedIn but when I ask them to sign NDA I get ghosted.

It’s kinda risky giving out all that info without any insurance, imo. Also this is standard practice in many cities.

Never faced this in Toronto.

Any suggestions?
 
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They are likely scared off by your NDA request. That's not a thing here. And unless you are some kind of rich/famous person, it's overkill.

If she's a well reviewed indy here, it's highly unlikely you are going to have an issue, they are very invested in keeping their reputation instead of gossiping about who their client base is. Especially in the price range you quoted. Having been around here for a very long time, I can say I have never seen a good client outed online, here or elsewhere by a provider. Ben Affleck got some grief about Brandis or something maybe a couple of decades ago but that was a stripper, not an escort. Given how many productions and films are made here I am willing to get good money that many of Vancouver top ladies have had movie stars for clients and not one of those got mentioned here by that provider that I recall.
 
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Porkrxporkr

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Quality indies are rare gems and can be selective. Plus there’s so many shitty customers they have to be. It’s a sellers’ market.
This explains a lot. The seller’s market angle never crossed my mind. I intuitively also believe this to be the case. I feel like each city has pros and cons. Toronto has soul crushing weather and zero scenery but a buyer’s market. Vancouver has great mountains and a seller’s market.

I actually cut down going to the gym because it increases my libido but I am unable to book because feels too risky sharing ID and LinkedIn without an NDA.

Here’s some quick math: at 1% chance of leak (that’s 1% per provider or in other words 99% chance she won’t leak if you’re a great client), you only need to see 100 providers before it actually leaks. And if it’s 3% then that number crashes to 33.

The law of large numbers and central limit theorem never lie.

Also sometimes it happens due to poorly maintained websites and contact forms not being secure; not because provider has ill-intent. A very well reviewed provider on here recently had issues with her contact form which allowed third parties access to all the stuff in her inbox. She even tweeted about it herself. Do a little digging and you’ll know who I mean.

Anyway, thanks for clarifying the demand and supply scenario. I was walking around butthurt thinking everyone in Vancouver is racist that’s why I can’t book. Now I feel a bit better.
 
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gianni lotus

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Here’s some quick math: at 1% chance of leak (that’s 1% per provider or in other words 99% chance she won’t leak if you’re a great client), you only need to see 100 providers before it actually leaks. And if it’s 3% then that number crashes to 33.

The law of large numbers and central limit theorem never lie.
Dude. that is not how math of probability works.

The Dunning-Kruger effect never lies.
 

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This explains a lot. The seller’s market angle never crossed my mind. I intuitively also believe this to be the case. I feel like each city has pros and cons. Toronto has soul crushing weather and zero scenery but a buyer’s market. Vancouver has great mountains and a seller’s market.

I actually cut down going to the gym because it increases my libido but I am unable to book because feels too risky sharing ID and LinkedIn without an NDA.

Here’s some quick math: at 1% chance of leak (that’s 1% per provider or in other words 99% chance she won’t leak if you’re a great client), you only need to see 100 providers before it actually leaks. And if it’s 3% then that number crashes to 33.

The law of large numbers and central limit theorem never lie.

Also sometimes it happens due to poorly maintained websites and contact forms not being secure; not because provider has ill-intent. A very well reviewed provider on here recently had issues with her contact form which allowed third parties access to all the stuff in her inbox. She even tweeted about it herself. Do a little digging and you’ll know who I mean.

Anyway, thanks for clarifying the demand and supply scenario. I was walking around butthurt thinking everyone in Vancouver is racist that’s why I can’t book. Now I feel a bit better.
You sound incredibly high maintenance and no SP in her right mind is going to take you on for your price range.

This is very definitely a 'you' problem.
 

JimDandy

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I am finding it very hard to book independents in the 500-800 per hour range.

Most don’t reply unless I write some thoughtful intro.

Then they ask for ID and LinkedIn but when I ask them to sign NDA I get ghosted.

It’s kinda risky giving out all that info without any insurance, imo. Also this is standard practice in many cities.

Never faced this in Toronto.

Any suggestions?
I estimate that for every independent escort operating in Vancouver, there are easily 100 sugar babies supplying essentially the same services in the same price range you mentioned. I suggest you join a SB/SD site. I have had good luck with Secret Benefits myself.

JD
 

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I’m independent and I would say to make sure to read our ads and to go through our website to see what we require to book. Everyone is different. Many require ID, LinkedIn and a legit phone number. We all require what we feel works for us to verify who you are, and this is mostly for our safety reasons. Some women want to have a very thorough and thoughtful introduction some want a shorter introduction. Definitely introduce yourself when booking with a provider and again look to see what our booking procedure is and what we require to make sure when you’re contacting us it is what we are asking.

If you’re respectful, and you’re polite, and you follow our booking procedures, you should get a reply back. Some of us might be faster with replies than others, as many of us have other jobs, have families, friends and a life outside of this. Hopefully you’re able to see some wonderful providers and make some memorable experiences.
 
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Porkrxporkr

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Thanks for all your wisdom, folks. I’ve managed to book with the rare and elusive Adira Gold, and yes she’s NDA-friendly ;)

will post review later but all the stuff from 2024 is still true; her face is still stunning and her body is still extremely toned.

enjoy!
 
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