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Stop using leolist

kweeezy

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Leolist should be boycotted...they refuse to take responsibility for fake ads and scammers...they expect you to report ads, but when you do, the fake ads keep returning in different form....it would take you days to report scammers...take a peek at leolist ads in other cities across the country and you can easily see the depth of the scamming...
Leolists "verified" ads also is meaningless now...
Leolist could easily vet ads and promote ads that are local to the given area and proven...No outside ads from other area codes...no ads that require you to go to onlyfans...no "travelling" providers unless they pick up a local phone that corresponds with the area code...there are probably some other good ideas out there, but the bottom line is that putting the onus completely on you to not get scammed is tiresome and is not a marker of good service...
Leolist only seems to care about whether the provider can pay for their ads...but putting up ads that they must know are fake is an evil and careless business model...especially when one can easily see the map provided pinpointing the providers location, but they also have ads in every corner of the country that also have pinpoint map locators...how can the same provider be located in Vernon BC and Sydney Nova Scotia at the same time, as well as 30 other cities...?
 

dare.devil

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LL sucks, its the place for scammers, addicts, and Onlyfans advertising. Even with verified one, I got someone else not. That was the time I realised that using LL search and hiring SP there is waste of time and money by default. Nkw I just use it for searchinf schedule of known providers or my fav agencies

Major reason is that they dont take feedbacks serisuly from one side of users.
BTW start using "Report ad" feature on the listings if you came accross such ads.(unfortuantely most of them are like that)
 

toesucker

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I only use Leolist as a porn site to be honest. It's been years since I actually booked with anyone based on an ad on Leolist. I've always just used PERB or the websites or telegrams for the indiviual agencies to see who's new or who's available and to book.
 
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carvesg

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I miss the old Craigslist and Backpage days 🤣
Keep in mind that both Craigslist and Backpage used to get the same critics and rants . Scammers will always find the new high volume website to scam the vulnerable people. Blood priority in the man's body ....penis vs brain ⚖...
Some ladies here on Perb could better explain that than us as they are more objective about it .
 
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Big_Guy_Rye

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Leolist does suck... for a simple website is shows a lot of lacking functionality that would make sifting through fake ads easier, but they won't.

However, playing devil's advocate, there is still 'some' value in the website, since alternatives aren't plenty either. It does take a few brain-cells more to figure out how to spot fake and scammy ads; just moreso with leolist than other websites.

Yes, it would be so easy if Leolist actually did it's job.... but it ain't like this industry is on the up-n-up itself, right?

Just be smart about what you're clicking on.... simple as that
 

VivaciousVivian

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Leolist used to be a pretty decent site before they sold it overseas. Now it is one of the worst out there! For all the reasons listed above, as well as how they treat their legitimate paid advertisers.

In 2017, one bump cost only $0.25. Now, one bump costs between $7.95-$9.95, that’s an increase of over 3800% in 8 years. I understand that inflation happens, but a 400% increase per year is just bonkers! Not only that, but they now post their own sponsored ads that lead to other websites that they also own, which forces advertisers like us to bump more often just to stay on the first couple of pages. In 2017, I could bump once and stay on page one for a whole day, possibly even 2. In 2025, when I bump in Victoria, I am off page one within a few hours, and when I do it while visiting Vancouver I am off page one in just a few minutes! So not only are they continually gouging us for the price of bumps, they are also deliberately making it more difficult to be seen in the sea of fake/sponsored ads, and rampant scammer ads. They refuse to address the scammer issue, because there are so many of them that they are making more money from the scammers who post ads, than they are from legit providers, so they don’t care to get rid of them. Reporting doesn’t really help, because the scammer will just start a new ad immediately. There is no verification process besides holding a sign with a date on it which anyone can fake in Photoshop.

Then, just a couple of weeks ago, they introduced a new way to gouge us, called scheduled bumps. Bumps are sold in packages between 2 and 30, and there is only a slight cost incentive to buy 30 so many providers just buy 2 at a time. We used to be able to use those bumps whenever we wanted, but now, Leo is forcing us to schedule them both for the same day, and if we don’t, they just use them for us. The only way to get around it is to buy a bigger bump package, which some simply can’t afford to do all in one go. It is quickly becoming even more inaccessible for low volume, or low income providers, making it even more difficult for them to get ahead.

Perb is pretty great as there are no scammers here, and if they tried, they would be quickly found out and banned. But the downside is, even though it is much more economical than Leo list, the monthly cost is still a deterrent for some and so there isn’t a very large selection of providers regularly advertising here. However, the reviews are very helpful for clients and providers, and the 411 is helpful for clients who want to verify the legitimacy of providers who may not be advertising here.

Tryst is my favorite, as it was started by sex workers, and has a tiered pricing system that is accessible to everyone. Providers can have a free account, and still be seen if they are in a smaller city. Vancouver not so much, they need to pay a higher tier to be noticed on the first several pages, but there is no such thing as bumps, Tryst randomly shuffles providers within each tier and they have an available now button which does push you to the top of your tier for a limited amount of time, for no extra cost.

Until recently, it was more difficult for scammers to advertise there, because they require ID to open an account. However, in bigger cities, people have been noticing there are more and more scammers popping up, which I think is because they don’t have a great verification system for ID, so scammers can provide fake ID that bypasses their screening, and they end up getting a free account doing just what they’re doing on Leolist which is unfortunate. I hope they find a way to address this, but for now their report button works well, so if you ever find a scammer on tryst, please report it and they will not let that person back on using the same ID and photos.

Sadly there are no perfect sites, but avoiding scammers is fairly simple if you follow a few general guidelines. Look for ads that include a personal website, scammers don’t usually go that extra mile to pay for a domain name and registered website for a fake person. Look for ads that include some kind of social media, a real phone number, and/or email, not a WhatsApp # or only accepting messages through onlyfans. Do a simple Google lens search on one of their images to see if it’s a famous Instagram model or porn actress with a different name. Phrases like avail 24/7, party friendly, 100% real, lots of grammar and or spelling errors, can sometimes indicate a fake ad. Of course none of these guidelines are 100% foolproof, lots of legit providers don’t have social media or a website, do use an app number, are party friendly or available often, and some happened to fail the spelling bee….but that’s when your common sense comes in and you should pop over here and see if there are any reviews or mentions of the person you are looking at. A little research goes a long way!
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VivaciousVivian

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In some cities, OhMy and Locanto are somewhat popular, but they’re also known to scrape ads to make themselves appear busier, so I don’t love that about them. (Scraping is stealing ad content from other sites and posting it without the knowledge or consent of the provider, sometimes changing the info, which makes them shady from our perspective)

I would still recommend Tryst as the most reputable for ads, and Perb/Merb/Terb for cross reference/reviews.
 

take8easy

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Buyer Beware. Leolist is a business and it is NOT LL's responsibility to filter out the scammers.

I agree that it is not the greatest but I have used it successfully for most part. (I got scammed only once when when I was new because I listened to my one eyed monster and did not even bother to check for reviews of an unknown and unreviewed out of town girl working out of a motel on KG and 64th.) So I make sure I use the review board as well. If someone ignores to read "party girl", "available 24 hrs", "b.r.ba.k", and many other too good to be rue red flags, then you can't blame LL for it. For example I would NEVER see an Asian girl advertising there. Honestly I would never go to an Asian agency unless I have been recommended or the reviews are really good.

I have been in this hobby for over a decade and there have been people using it to scam hobbyists since day one.

I do use Tryst but not as much as the girls there are pricey, for most part. Even I do see someone that I am interested in, I still use PERB for cross-reference.
 
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dare.devil

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Buyer Beware. Leolist is a business and it is NOT LL's responsibility to filter out the scammers.

I agree that it is not the greatest but I have used it successfully for most part. (I got scammed only once when when I was new because I listened to my one eyed monster and did not even bother to check for reviews of an unknown and unreviewed out of town girl working out of a motel on KG and 64th.) So I make sure I use the review board as well. If someone ignores to read "party girl", "available 24 hrs", "b.r.ba.k", and many other too good to be rue red flags, then you can't blame LL for it. For example I would NEVER see an Asian girl advertising there. Honestly I would never go to an Asian agency unless I have been recommended or the reviews are really good.

I have been in this hobby for over a decade and there have been people using it to scam hobbyists since day one.

I do use Tryst but not as much as the girls there are pricey, for most part. Even I do see someone that I am interested in, I still use PERB for cross-reference.
"NOT LL's responsibility" - Sure its not, but its about quality control. It has potential network effect. If audiencr of LL ads dont trust LLs paying customer, they wont get return of investment. So LL wll loose it from both sides.
 

Cock Throppled

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I use LL, and use my spidey senses, and past knowledge (and some common sense) and have never been scammed. I tried Tryst, but the prices for 99% of the SP's I've looked at have been way out of my budget. Why are there almost none of the LL SP's on Tryst if it's more affordable and reliable?
 

take8easy

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"NOT LL's responsibility" - Sure its not, but its about quality control. It has potential network effect. If audiencr of LL ads dont trust LLs paying customer, they wont get return of investment. So LL wll loose it from both sides.
and I am sure they are well aware of that.
 
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